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PlutoSurvivor
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posted October 29, 2014 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(not sure if I posted this before, but thought it may be a good reference)

Asteroid discovery, naming, and themes

Every asteroid, whether it has a scientific designation, a number, or a name exists in everyone's natal astrology chart. No exceptions. There are hundreds of thousands of asteroids from which to choose. So, many people think you can even buy your own name for those asteroids not yet "christened", but this is not really true. The discoverer gets to make that decision. And naming an asteroid after an individual person does not lessen an asteroid's significance in a chart.
(Sidenote: did you know that all 4 Beatles have an asteroid named after them?)

So, what purpose do these objects really serve? How do we know what they really mean in a chart? Especially the newer ones, the babies to us. There are so many asteroids that have already been discovered waiting for names as well. Their paths have to be verified first.

It will take hundreds, if not thousands of case studies utilizing scientific statistical analysis to be sure of what each asteroid really means for us in a chart. So what do we do in the meantime?

First, look at the asteroid themes already researched through database studies or personal experience and pay attention to the method used in the analysis. This is vital. We can explore more about methods later.

Next, see how the asteroid is aspected in your chart. Use your intuition to choose from multiple definitions in order to determine how this asteroid affects your life, the same way you would do it as with a planet. Astrology is still very subjective. Many times you will find conflicting explanations of what a planet means, let alone an asteroid. Unless descriptions are proven to be universal, through 100% verification, your own personal guidance will play a role.

For instance, if you look up an asteroid that happens to be named after a geographical location, and you were not born there, it may have a totally different meaning for you than for a person living there. Say you feel a chill run up your spine and the particular place name happens to sound like a word that connotes evil in your language, you can be pretty sure that this is being brought to your attention in a way that is related to your perceived meaning, not the original country's language. It may be an intuitive message at the time to bring you an answer you've been seeking. Nobody can discount the Great Mystery that guides our lives.

If you question an asteroid's description or meaning, begin your own investigation.
Focus on your own life experience and share it with others who are also interested in asteroid analysis. This brings awareness to others and opens you up to an investigation that may correlate your own findings. If not, then it can refine your research to expand into other areas. This allows for a broader database of study.

What makes asteroid research valid? To get a really good understanding of an asteroid, you need to use tight orbs with conjunctions. Later on you can expand orbs by just a degree to see how significant the orbs really are for each individual asteroid. Each one may be different based on the combinations in the analysis. Then you can expand to different aspects and qualifiers.

To begin, first check the exact asteroid conjunctions with only the Sun or Ascendant in a chart. These two points, the Sun and Ascendant, will show themes in a person's chart. When asteroids are conjunct either of these two, the theme will be relevant in your life. You must start here to get the pure meaning.

Do this with the asteroids in your own chart. Then study charts from family and friends close to you, and then look them up in databases like astrodienst using charts of public figures you have studied.

Everyone is looking for the truth. The truth is...
You won't know an exact meaning without doing the work. When you do your own research, look up all the variables and ask what is going on with the 1 or 2 percent of charts that don't match your proposed definition, even if that definition matches the bulk of your chart experience.

In general, if a description works most of the time, say even 99% of the time, it is taken as truth. But nobody asks about the remaining percent, about what's missing for the charts where it doesn't work. Digging deeper, looking at all variables will give a clearer picture. Starting with the personal points in a chart, with conjunctions and tight orbs, you will begin to get the picture.

Asteroid research is a fascinating field of study, and in the end the only thing that matters is how it can help you or help you help others.

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Astro keen
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posted October 29, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi PS,

Really nice posts - both this and the one on validity.

It would be useful to have the two combined for a reference thread in the Library. Once it is moved there (or a copy is), you could continue to add to it, amend etc. as and when.

Maybe with a pithy title -'"Intro to asteroids", or "what do asteroids do", "why do asteroids matter" or similar.

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Aubyanne
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posted October 29, 2014 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been pleasantly surprised with asteroids. I've recently expanded to really include them, and the results are staggering.

For example, one of my characters is named Riley C Wingate. I created her in 2001. Nothing even remotely resonated with her -- until RILEYENNIS (26399).

Now, I know what you're thinking; 'Riley C? Riley Ennis? What does a fictional young profiler have to do with a real scientific phenom?' It's all in the name. For me, astrology operates according to the principles of Functionalism.

The lock is in two places: Riley C, (which they both share) and the serendipity of its naming. 26399.

PROSERPINA (26) meets PERSEPHONE (399). Riley Wingate's story is very much akin to Persephone's -- descending to the depths of a kind of hell at the behest (or demands) of an extremely powerful, dark figure -- to one day, hopefully, reemerge as co-ruler of that dark place. Much as Persephone rises to become Queen of the Underworld alongside Hades.

I've not yet scoured its discovery chart, but I suspect there's going to be elements of PERSEPHONE/PROSERPINA in it. No way -- with such 'accidental naming' -- it couldn't have that connexion. No coincidences.

And, at its roots, RILEYENNIS may very well denote one who selflessly gives of themselves to serve humankind in some dicey endeavour. Turns out I have JODIEFOSTER and RILEYENNIS conjunct in my chart, 1º. I've especially related to Foster's roles where she's exhibiting these traits: Clarice Starling, Ellie Arroway -- come immediately to mind.

Alas, this one is indeed in its infancy, and will need to be put through its paces. But it's already taught me that, sometimes, the right asteroid just hasn't been discovered just yet. Not bad for a baby.

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted November 01, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very cool

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Aubyanne
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posted November 02, 2014 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right? I thought you'd dig.

I wrote this insane post awhile back about how we could tell, by using asteroids, that both Hopkins and Foster were destined for their roles, AND Foster wouldn't be reprising it -- AND Julianne Moore would take over.

Crazy stuff, these skyrocks.

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posted November 05, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


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