posted February 08, 2011 09:14 PM            

I'm Chiricahua, Apache and Pasqua, Yaqui. Both tribes are from around Arizona/New Mexico, and even through Senora and Chihuahua Mexico.

I'm also half Spaniard. That side of the family were conquistadors that came here on (and funded) many of the ships that first came to the Americas.

Basically, I understand my family's history is far from ideal..but I'm very proud of both sides. I'm lucky to know what I come from.

Anyways..there's also
Ute
Navajo
Apache Point
Inca
Bella (Bella)
Kato

posted February 08, 2011 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Anicia:
I just want to emphasize that there were MANY native civilizations and while some tribes were similar, even related, their cultures and history are different. One is not interchangeable for another.

I'm Chiricahua, Apache and Pasqua, Yaqui. Both tribes are from around Arizona/New Mexico, and even through Senora and Chihuahua Mexico.

I'm also half Spaniard. That side of the family were conquistadors that came here on (and funded) many of the ships that first came to the Americas.

Basically, I understand my family's history is far from ideal..but I'm very proud of both sides. I'm lucky to know what I come from.

Anyways..there's also
Ute
Navajo
Apache Point
Inca
Bella (Bella)
Kato

I'm sure there's more. I just started looking.

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There is also the five civilized tribes:
Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek,
Chickasaw, and Seminole. Originally from the South and Southeast. Before the removal act.

I am 1/8th Cherokee and I have Choctaw in me too. So I can definitely find out history on both of those if needed. I know a little more in regards to Cherokee, because my great grandmother was full. My grandmother's brother has this history album with photos and information on myth stories told. He is really into our Native American background. Which I guess makes sense because he is half. But I can try and contact him and see if I can find some info If anyone needs cherokee or choctwa. I also have a best friend who lives in New Zealand who is 1/4 Navajo. His dad passed away and his dad was half. So I can find some info on that tribe too. Because this guy is pretty much like my long lost brother. lol He's a dual citizen. And he visits here frequently. It's different seeing this really this guy with greenish eyes, olive skin, and all these strong Najavo features..But has this N.Z. accent lol

posted February 09, 2011 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Anicia:
I just want to emphasize that there were MANY native civilizations and while some tribes were similar, even related, their cultures and history are different. One is not interchangeable for another.

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posted February 09, 2011 01:37 PM            

Here is what I got so far:

Hopi (2938)

Navajo (3688)

Apache Point (90022)

Pocahontas (4487)

posted February 09, 2011 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
I'm aware of this. I just referenced Hopi, because it is one of the many Asteroids.

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That came out a little harsh. It wasn't directed specifically at you though. Every time I see this topic come up, that just seems to happen. It bothers me a little bit.

posted February 09, 2011 06:13 PM            

Ok this person is 1/2 Hopi and asteroid Hopi is conjunct his Neptune in the 11th house which seems significant because he is a Aquarius ASC. after all. And Apache point is conjunct his Pluto in the 8th H. Also Asteroid Hopi is semi-square his ASC. Along with asteroid Pocahontas... Not only that Neptune and Pluto are sextile and make up his yod, I think he is trying to get back to his heritagein his present life, especially with Mars conjunct the IC, what do you think?

posted February 09, 2011 06:44 PM            

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Quaoar: Native American deity of creation. The first object in space to bear a Native American name (not counting Hopi and Navajo, which refer to tribes). Orbital Period: 283.84 yr.

Positive - creative, inspiring, possibility oriented, uplifts sagging emotion, strong sense of self

Negative - doom saying, prophet of Armageddon, controls others with fear

Mundane - birds, frogs, bears, songs and dances of cultural or spiritual origin, harmony, syncopation, rhythm

Ceremonial - singing and dancing praise the Creator, use of animal totems.

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posted February 09, 2011 08:08 PM            

I on the other hand don't know everything that is in my blood. All I know is that everything in my blood is white (Irish, British, Polish)
But it's my mom's dysfunctional side where there is a little part that is unknown. We have guesses that it could be Scottish, French, Hebrew, Spanish...some people think that my great Grandma was black. Since her last name was White.(and I guess in the old days African Americans who where paler changed their last name to that so people would go "oh they are white" so they could get treated right.) She doesn't look black. If anything she has olive skin like me.
But yea I wanna know, so I can know where I get my olive skin. (I can catch a mean tan in the summer too)

Yeah I'm surprised that there isn't an asteroid Cheroke I've met many people with Cheroke in their blood, also how you say Chipawa(I bet I spelled that wrong)

oooo! Pocahontas! (lol sorry, I was little when that movie came out. Don't worry I know the disney movie is off from the real story) I'M PRETTY SURE read along time ago that in Pocahontas' tribe pocahontas means she who acts mischievous.

posted February 09, 2011 10:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:

But yea I wanna know, so I can know where I get my olive skin.

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posted February 10, 2011 12:30 AM            

That's why majority of Black Americans are part white.

It is said that 1/4 of Black Americans belong to European Y haplogroups.

I am very curious about mine. My father was Black American from Louisiana. His last name was Scott which was also his father's. I don't have the same last name. I have my mom's maiden name , Andrews which was changed from the Portuguese name, Andrade.

I just recently did 23andme genetic testing.
They test for not only diseases and traits but also ancestral lineage which includes both mitochondria DNA (matrilineal line) and Y DNA (patrilineal line). I already know that I belong to J haplogroup on the matrilineal line,and that's a Middle Eastern haplogroup. There is a strong possibility that I am part Jew/Israelite/Hebrew and may even have Mesopotamian ancestry. I won't be surprised to find out that I belong to a European haplogroup on the patrilineal line with my being the descendant of African American slaves on my father's side.

I read that 1/4 of White Americans have Black ancestry. Many people mixed with Black crossed the color/racial lines and passed for white. My stepfather's mother did that. I saw a photo of her, and she looked white.

Quaoar is a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate that is named after Native American Tongva tribe creation deity who was said to create through song and dance. It is said to be associated with creativity and inspiration. With it being a transneptunian dwarf planet, it is associated with evolutionary intensification.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 10, 2011 01:23 AM            

in my own chart

Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo

Sabian Symbol for 14 Virgo
An Aristocratic Tree
'a deep reliance upon the ancestral roots of individual character'

Therefore my Ascendant degree could pertain to not only my appearance but also my actual ancestral,roots,heritage

asteroids aspecting my Ascendant could pertain to not only my appearance but also my actual ancestral roots,heritage

square Brown in 13'46 Gemini R - I have light brown skin
square Mesopotamia in 11'35 Sagittarius - Mesopotamia/ancient Iraq, maybe I look part Mesopotamian
sextile Niger in 13'47 Scorpio - Niger is the name of a country in Africa, and it is the Latin for Black, I look part Black on my father's side
sextile Sumeria in 13'48 Cancer - Sumer, a country in Mesopotamia, maybe I look part Sumerian
quincunx Africano in 12'38 Aries R - Africa,African .......I do look part African on my father's side

I do look like I have some Middle Eastern ancestry. I have been mistook for Middle Eastern. I thought that it was because of possibly Moorish ancestry from the Portuguese and Spanish ancestry on my maternal grandfather's side. My maternal grandfather look like an Arab. He even looked like Saddam Hussein. It's possible that I might look Middle Eastern because of my matrilineal line. I do belong to a Middle Eastern haplogroup on the matrilineal line. I never knew my father ,and my mom never knew her mother. Therefore, I know very little about my ancestral roots,heritage. There is no telling what I have in me. There is a possibility that I could have Mesopotamian ancestry that includes Sumerian ancestry. I am very sure that I have Jew/Israelite/Hebrew ancestry because of my genetic matches with people of that ancestry.

My ascendant aspects the following asteroids of things that are not proven to be historical........if there is proof of them being historical, well then maybe they have to do with my appearance and ancestral roots,heritage

square Atlantis in 12'18 Sagittarius - Atlantis,Atlantean
sextile Drakonia in 13'20 Cancer - Draconian,Reptilian

My Ascendant in Virgo sextile the trine of Niger in Scorpio trine Draconia-Sumeria in Cancer
have the corresponding midpoint pictures

Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
conjunct Niger/Sumeria midpoint in 13'48 Virgo - Black Sumerian
conjunct Niger/Draconia in 13'34 Virgo - Black Draconian/Reptilian

Sabian Symbol for 14 Virgo
An Aristocratic Tree
'a deep reliance upon the ancestral roots of individual character'

My Niger trine Sumeria (0'01) aspecting my Ascendant makes me wonder about the color of the Sumerians.

The Sumerians referred to themselves as "The Black-headed People"

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 10, 2011 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
I dunno if asteroids can tell you that, but if you have strong connections to the asteroids listed above, than maybe you've got some Native blood? I also used the same asteroids on my own chart and Asteroid Navajo is conjunct my DNA, this might sound a bit far fetched, but I really think I was Native American in a past life... But that is what all white people say, lol!

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come on now

not all nor most white people say that they have Native American pastlives
a lot of people don't believe in reincarnation

many of them wouldn't even claim Native American ancestry

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 10, 2011 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
come on now

not all nor most white people say that they have Native American pastlives
a lot of people don't believe in reincarnation

many of them wouldn't even claim Native American ancestry

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Perhaps, but it just sounds like new age hippie crap to me and I've read a lot of texts on Native American culture and how white culture takes the "Native Mystic" and uses it for their own spiritual visions, basically gentrifies it. This was really popular in the 1970's.

posted November 02, 2014 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:

I just recently did 23andme genetic testing.
They test for not only diseases and traits but also ancestral lineage which includes both mitochondria DNA (matrilineal line) and Y DNA (patrilineal line). I already know that I belong to J haplogroup on the matrilineal line,and that's a Middle Eastern haplogroup. There is a strong possibility that I am part Jew/Israelite/Hebrew and may even have Mesopotamian ancestry. I won't be surprised to find out that I belong to a European haplogroup on the patrilineal line with my being the descendant of African American slaves on my father's side.

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I have yet to Google this, but was your experience with this service a good one? I've always wanted to do this out of sheer curiosity what it would show! Not sure of the cost involved though.