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Yanmorg
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posted January 11, 2015 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed there are two asteroids with almost identical spelling.

Is there a difference between the two?

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Gabby
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posted January 11, 2015 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karma is your souls challenges and gifts that come from the choices you have made in the many lifetimes you've lived.

Kama = Ancient Sanskrit word for LUST.
Can be used to infer the leanings of the native towards Tantrik Sex.


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posted January 11, 2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are both Sanskrit words. But Karma is, well, karma. And I presume you've heard of the Kama Sutra? Kama is a Sanskrit word (with Kamadeva being the related god) meaning "pleasure, sensual gratification, sexual fulfillment or the aesthetic enjoyment of life."

So no, they are not the same thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kama+asteroid+name
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kama+asteroid

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posted January 11, 2015 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those for whom it matters, Karma asteroid was named after the concept karma.

Kama asteroid, however, was named after the Kama River in Russia.

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posted January 11, 2015 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's true I've seen the asteroid Kama 1387 interpreted as sexual desire on this forum (Kama meaning wish, longing in Indian literature, Wikipedia) but it not the real meaning of the asteroid. Initially, the asteroid was named after the Kama River in Russia. But then there are still people who disagree on whether to count different meanings spelled the same or not (see asteroid Soulié thread). I suppose we would have to study this thoroughly and see which is better -- to consider it as Kama River or sexual attraction.

As for Karma 1388, self-explanatory.

And lastly, there's a third asteroid which sounds the same as Kama. It's asteroid Khama 1357 named after King Khama III.

Hope this helps.

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posted January 11, 2015 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
For those for whom it matters, Karma asteroid was named after the concept karma.

Kama asteroid, however, was named after the Kama River in Russia.


Exactly, I was a bit long to post so I missed this.

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posted January 11, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
It's true I've seen the asteroid Kama 1387 interpreted as sexual desire on this forum (Kama meaning wish, longing in Indian literature, Wikipedia) but it not the real meaning of the asteroid. Initially, the asteroid was named after the Kama River in Russia. But then there are still people who disagree on whether to count different meanings spelled the same or not (see asteroid Soulié thread). I suppose we would have to study this thoroughly and see which is better -- to consider it as Kama River or sexual attraction.


My own take on this issue is (1) work first/primarily with asteroids where the reason for the name matches the interpretation that is being suggested, and (2) play around with the others; they can be fun. But don't put a lot of stock in it unless you have real data from a variety of charts *and* a variety of astrologers.

I also think the discovery chart of the asteroid itself can be instructive, and I think that the bigger asteroids that were discovered earlier in history (so have been in the collective consciousness of humans on earth longer) are more important. Finally, I study the original myth, not just interpretations (sometimes highly oversimplified interpretations) I find on the internet.

I think we also have to consider that it's hard for astrologers to see meaningful patterns in something that actually means a French surname related to shoes (Soulie), a Russian River (Kama), a Japanese island or tea ceremony (Sado), or an Estonian crater related to a word meaning "cabbage"in Finnish/Estonian (Kaali).

On the other hand, it's easy to see patterns related to "soul" and "sadism" if your primary language is English, and "kama" and "kali" if you come from an Indian background or have studied the culture.

The more objects you use, the more close aspects you will find. And even if there are no aspects, then I guess you have a peregrine asteroid which might mean something too!

We all have Kaali, Sado, Soulie, and Kama asteroids in our charts somewhere. We all have powerful feminine dark energy, a tendency toward hurting others for our own desires, a soul, and sexual desire because we are human.

So I take a lot of this with a grain of salt. It can be fun. It sometimes can help me think about and become more aware of a particular part of my psyche. But it's not deterministic and I'm not fatalistic about it. God (however you define him/her) gave us a heart, a brain, and free will for a reason.

I worry sometimes that people take some of this stuff far too seriously.

(Well, that was a little sermon I didn't start out to give!)

EDIT: All that said, I am personally fond of interpreting my Kaali placement in my own chart as the goddess energy, not cabbage :


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