posted August 29, 2010 03:54 PM            

This is a post about Sedna, the transneptunian dwarf planet which is named after the Inuit Sea Goddess who was also the Ruler of Adlivun, the Underworld which said to be located at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean.
It has an orbit of over 11,000 years. It has the greatest average distance of all the transneptunian objects. It's the most outer of the outer objects in our solar system.

Alison Chester-Lambert wrote some insightful things about Sedna.

pages 172 - 173
From her new book:
THE FUTURE IN THE STARS

Those individuals with prominent Sedna energy will have experience of never really feeling completely at home in the sphere of personal relationships. This might range from feeling a little awkward as though something is perhaps 'missing', to an intangible fear of impending annihilation. The ability to feel completely safe might seem strangely elusive for some unknown reason.

It has been suggested that people whose whole lives are influenced by Sedna's energy will demonstrate these themes. In the first part of their lives they may start attract aggressive, angry and destructive people to them, then later they may comprehensively spurn and dismiss them.

Sedna types might attract damaged lonely souls who themselves abuse and attack as a wounded animal will. Their task is to move out of this pattern, toughen up and get firm with this damaged cycle.

There are better, more fulfilling things lined up for them than this. They should embrace global issues instead. Sedna types march to a different drum beat. The lonely arctic waves of an unsatisfactory relationship will eventually present them with no choice. The howling gales will echo round their soul with the voices of a thousand screaming seagulls. They can shrivel up inside from the loneliness and cold around them, or they can spiritually surge into a no-nonsense awareness of their own strength and authority. I'm not saying that one-to-one relationships are impossible for them, but they will struggle in the same way as Sedna, until they find a channel for all that cosmic and spiritual power. Then one-to-one relationships can be less stressed and laden with energies that shouldn't be played out in this area. Trying to extract or play out Sedna's powerful authority and familiarity with universal suffering in relationship doesn't work. If you resonate to an energy that loves and feels for millions of lives, then how do you live this out within the limits of a tiny personal relationship? You can't. The compassion is too immense, the victimisation needs to be too immense, the pain needs to be too immense.

Sedna feels at one with, and has authority over, the whole of creation. As a planet, she travels nearly to the next Solar System and back. She feels the pain and loneliness of nearly 11,000 years on her own, and responsibility for the essence or soul of creation. If you have the capacity for that much awareness, it's hard to feel content with the mundane aspects of day to day life.

People who resonate with this should try channeling into animal charities. Become concerned about arctic matters. If you choose to eat animals, which Sedna is not oppose to in the myth, try to eat only those animals that you feel were more properly respected.

Become aware that everything is one and you are part of it. Feel your connectedness. Become a caretaker of the planet. The Pagans, Druids, and Wiccans have understood this all along. Sedna has come to give the message a focus, and raise awareness globally. The stakes are too high for any one of us to ignore them.

What Alison wrote about Sedna hits home for me.

Orbs for Sedna in the regular chart (Ecliptic longitude) and Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)

3 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine
2 degree for sextile
1 degree for semisextile, quincunx, semisquare,sesquiquadrate,biquintile,quintile

Orbs for Sedna in Declinations

30 minutes of arc for parallel,contraparallel

Here is some information on Right Ascension and Declination which are regularly used by Astronomers http://astrology.clairvision.org/static/astrologymanual/Right_ascension_and_declin ation.html

Orbs for Sedna Nodes
1 degree for conjunction,opposition,square,trine,sextile

You can calculate Right Ascension,Declination,Sedna Nodes here: http://www.true-node.com/eph1/

If Sun,Moon,Ascendant,or Midheaven are involved, the orb could be slightly wider

In my own chart:

Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R in 8th
oppose Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio in 2nd
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
sextile Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th

in Right Ascension:
Sedna in 3'46 Taurus R
oppose Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
oppose Quaoar in 1'17 Scorpio
sextile Moon in 4'24 Pisces

I have Sun,Moon,and Sedna in a Wedge configuration. Moon trine Sun and sextile Sedna indicates that Moon is the outlet for the tension of my Sun oppose Sedna.
The aspects in the Wedge configuation are narrower in Right Ascension than they are in the regular chart.

Sedna is also strong in the 11th Harmonic.....part of a 11th Harmonic aspect pattern (11th harmonic has Uranus/Aquarius/11th house influence)
Ascendant 4'11 Sedna - '26
Mercury 5/11 Sedna - '07
Mars 2'11 Sedna - '45
Saturn 1/11 Sedna - '17
Uranus 5/11 Sedna - '26

with corresponding midpoint pictures
Mercury oppose Saturn/Sedna - '17
Sedna oppose Mercury/Uranus - 1'6

Mercury,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna in 11th harmonic Isosceles Trapezoid
with corresponding midpoint picture
Mercury/Sedna oppose Saturn/Uranus - '01

I am definitely a Sedna person.

Are you?

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posted August 29, 2010 04:01 PM            

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Those individuals with prominent Sedna energy will have experience of never really feeling completely at home in the sphere of personal relationships. This might range from feeling a little awkward as though something is perhaps 'missing', to an intangible fear of impending annihilation. The ability to feel completely safe might seem strangely elusive for some unknown reason.

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posted August 29, 2010 04:12 PM            

by Clarissa Pinkola Estes
She had done something of which her father disapproved, although no one any longer remembered what it was. But her father had dragged her to the cliffs and thrown her over and into the sea. There, the fish ate her flesh away and plucked out her eyes. As she lay under the sea, her skeleton turned over and over in the currents.

One day a fisherman came fishing, well, in truth many came to this bay once. But this fisherman had drifted far from his home place and did not know that the local fisherman stayed away, saying this inlet was haunted.

The fisherman's hook drifted down through the water, and caught of all places, in the bones of Skeleton Woman's rib cage. The fisherman thought, "Oh, now I've really got a big one! Now I really have one!" In his mind he was thinking of how many people this great fish would feed, how long it would last, how long he might be free from the chore of hunting. And as he struggled with this great weight on the end of the hook, the sea was stirred to a thrashing froth, and his kayak bucked and shook, for she who was beneath struggled to disentangle herself. And the more she struggled, the more she tangled in the line. No matter what she did, she was inexorably dragged upward, tugged up by the bones of her own ribs.

The hunter had turned to scoop up his net, so he did not see her bald head rise above the waves, he did not see the little coral creatures glinting in the orbs of her skull, he did not see the crustaceans on her old ivory teeth. When he turned back with his net, her entire body, such as it was, had come to the surface and was hanging from the tip of his kayak by her long front teeth.

"Agh!" cried the man, and his heart fell into his knees, his eyes hid in terror on the back of his head, and his ears blazed bright red. "Agh!" he screamed, and knocked her off the prow with his oar and began paddling like a demon toward shoreline. And not realizing she was tangled in his line, he was frightened all the more for she appeared to stand upon her toes while chasing him all the way to shore. No matter which way he zigged his kayak, she stayed right behind, and her breath rolled over the water in clouds of steam, and her arms flailed out as though to snatch him down into the depths.

"Agh!" he wailed as he ran aground. In one leap he was out of his kayak, clutching his fishing stick and running, and the coral white corpse of skeleton woman, still snagged in the fishing line, bumpety-bumped behind right after him. Over the rocks he ran, and she followed. Over the frozen tundra he ran, and she kept right up. Over the meat laid out to dry he ran, cracking it to pieces as his mukluks bore down.

Throughout it all she kept right up, in fact, she grabbed some of the frozen fish as she was dragged behind. This she began to eat, for she had not gorged in a long, long time. Finally, the man reached his snowhouse and dove right into the tunnel and on hands and knees scrabbled his way into the interior. Panting and sobbing he lay there in the dark, his heart a drum, a mighty drum. Safe at last, oh so safe, yes, safe thank the Gods, Raven, yes, thank Raven, yes, and all bountiful Sedna, safe... at...last.

Imagine when he lit his whale oil lamp, there she - it - lay in a tumble upon his snow floor, one heel over her shoulder, one knee inside her rib cage, one foot over her elbow. He could not say later what it was, perhaps the firelight softened her features, or the fact that he was a lonely man... but a feeling of some kindness came into his breathing, and slowly he reached out his grimy hands and using words softly like a mother to child, began to untangle her from the fishing line.

"Oh, na, na, na." First he untangled the toes, then the ankles. "Oh, na, na, na." On and on he worked into the night, until dressing her in furs to keep her warm, Skeleton Woman's bones were all in the order a human's should be.

He felt into his leather cuffs for his flint and used some of his hair to light a little more fire. He gazed at her from time to time as he oiled the precious wood of his fishing stick and rewound the gut line. And she in the furs uttered not a word - she did not dare - lest this hunter take her out and throw her down to the rocks and break her bones to pieces utterly.

The man became drowsy, slid under his sleeping skins, and soon was dreaming. And sometimes as humans sleep, you know, a tear escapes from the dreamer's eye; we never know what sort of dream causes this, but we know it is either a dream of sadness or longing. And this is what happened to the man.

Skeleton Woman saw the tear glisten in the firelight and she became suddenly soooo thirsty. She tinkled and clanked and crawled over to the sleeping man and put her mouth to his tear. The single tear was like a river and she drank and drank and drank until her many-years-long thirst was slaked.

While lying beside him, she reached inside the sleeping man and took out his heart, the mighty drum. She sat up and banged on both sides of it: Bom Bomm!.....Bom Bomm!

As she drummed, she began to sing out "Flesh, flesh, flesh! Flesh, Flesh, Flesh!" And the more she sang, the more her body filled out with flesh. She sang for hair and good eyes and nice fat hands. She sang the divide between her legs, and breasts long enough to wrap for warmth, and all the things a woman needs.

And when she was all done, she also sang the sleeping man's clothes off and crept into his bed with him, skin against skin. She returned the great drum, his heart, to his body, and that is how they awakened, wrapped one around the other, tangled from their night, in another way now, a good and lasting way.

posted August 29, 2010 04:13 PM            

In reading through the following excerpt from the chapter on Skeleton Woman and the Life/Death/Life cycle, it's important to not romanticize the relationship between Skeleton Woman and the fisherman. We each have a masculine and a feminine nature; the man in this story could just as easily be a woman. It is the task of Skeleton Woman to initiate each of us into the deeper mysteries of relationship with the largesse of life but she can only come into the temple of spirit by our explicit invitation...

Giving the Tear

As the fisherman sleeps, a tear is released from the corner of his eye. Skeleton Woman spies it, is filled with thirst, and awkwardly crawls to him to drink from the cup of his eye. What, we ask, could he be dreaming that would cause such a tear to come forth?

When one has ventured this far into relationship with the Life/Death/Life nature, the tear that is cried is the tear of passion and compassion mixed together, for oneself, and for the other. It is the hardest tear to cry and especially for men and certain kinds of "street-tough" women.

This tear of passion and compassion is most often wept after the accidental finding of treasure, after the fearful chase, after the untangling - for it is the combination of these that causes the exhaustion, the disassembling of defenses, the facing of oneself, the stripping down to the bones, the desire for both knowledge and relief. These cause a soul to peer into what the soul truly wants and to weep for loss and love of both.

As surely as Skeleton Woman was brought to the surface, now this tear, this feeling in the man, is also brought to the surface. It is an instruction in loving both self and another. Stripped now of all the bristles and hooks and shivs of the daytime world, the man draws Skeleton Woman to lie beside him, to drink and be nourished by his deepest feeling. In his new form he is able to feed the thirsty other.

This is the man healing, the man growing in understanding. He takes on his own medicine-making, he takes on the task of feeding the "deleted other." Through his tears, he begins to create.

To love another is not enough, to be "not an impediment" in the life of the other is not enough. It is not enough to be "supportive" and "there for them" and all the rest. The goal is to be knowledgeable about the ways of life and death, in one's own life and in panorama. And the only way to be a knowing man is to go to school in the bones of Skeleton Woman. She is waiting for the signal of deep feeling, the one tear that says, "I admit the wound."

posted August 29, 2010 04:17 PM            

There is definitely theme of transformation in the myth Sedna which matches the transneptunian object.

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 30, 2010 03:44 PM            

Women Who Run With the Wolves is hands down one of my favorite books, and "Skeleton Woman" is my favorite story inside. These are a beautiful string of coincidences. I'll have to look up Sedna's place in my chart.

posted August 30, 2010 05:36 PM            

I did a reading for somebody who said that he's an Indigo, and he was diagnosed ADHD.

I figured that he's strong in the 21st Century transneptunian objects

he has the following:

Moon oppose Sedna with 1'40 orb

Sun conjunct Makemake with 1'17 orb

Sun contraparallel Quaoar with 14 minutes of arc

Varuna trine Midheaven with 1'41 orb

Haumea square Ascendant with 2'35 orb

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted August 30, 2010 05:50 PM            

Sedna trine Asbolus
Sedna trine Bienor
Sedna conjunct Chaos
Sedna sextile Child
Sedna sextile Echeclus
Sedna conjunct IC
Sedna opp. MC
Sedna conjunct Heracles
Sedna conjunct Hermes
Sedna conjunct Hopi
Sedna square Isis
Sedna sextile Lilith
Sedna opp. Okyrhoe
Sedna square Orcus
Sedna square Pandora
Sedna trine Terpsicore
Sedna trine Vertex
Sedna opp. Venus
Sedna sextile osc. Apogee

posted August 30, 2010 05:59 PM            

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posted August 30, 2010 06:02 PM            

-conjunct Descendant/opposite Ascendant
-opposite Jupiter
-trine Venus

***There are more aspects than these, but I chose to include the ones to planets and angles only***

I do identify with always feeling alone in romantic personal relationships and having the feeling of never being satisfied. It always feels like there should be more to it than what I am presented with. It always feels hollow and the grass always seems greener on the other side. That's sad actually, come to think of it.

posted August 31, 2010 01:28 AM            

Sedna is at 3*Taurus, conjunct my descendant
Opposing Uranus/ascendant
Sextile Mars in Pisces
Inconjunct North Node/semi-sextile Moon, Venus and South Node

posted August 31, 2010 01:44 PM            

Here are my Sedna aspects:

Sedna

semi-square Sun
quincunx Mercury
opposite Venus
semi-square Uranus
trine Neptune
opposite Pluto
square Ascendant

posted August 31, 2010 04:03 PM            

This might be helpful for people who are strong in Sedna energy and/or going through Sedna transits,secondary progressions,solar arcs.

"Sedna

The energy is slow beyond belief ... cold, beyond time and space as we experience them.

For decades, Sedna has been conjunct the uranian transneptunian (TNP) Admetos, and as there is much overlap in energy and meaning, it is not so easy to separate them. (note – Sedna's year is about 11,000 years, while Admetos' year is about 630 years, so they are not the same. Sedna is so incredibly far out from the Sun that the discovery and inclusion more than doubled the size of our solar system!).

Sedna does not operate on a personal level, tho it is likely when closely contacting a personal planet, it takes you to a deeper place with it, more to the universal authenticity of expression of a planet. For those who function solely on a personal ego level, this isn't pretty! (like Pluto in this).

Go Deep! Sedna's sacrifice created sustenance for the people.

There was a glimpse of at least another one planetary being further out beyond Sedna.

Sedna is deeply shamanic and otherworldly, not of this mundane world.

I asked my spiritual Mentors and guides to assist, and invited Sedna to come – she's lovely! Sylph-like, slender, long straight black hair flowing almost to her knees – also long fingers (not severed, as in the myth). She has exceedingly intense deep, dark eyes and gaze, smokey, fiery, electric, powerfully penetrating. Dark energy, dark caramel complexion. But aii! those eyes! She's very fluid in her movements. Sedna is very wrathful in her energy, very much 'cut the crap.'

Sedna can bring to the surface old unresolved issues and blockages from ancient times (past lives) to more recent experience, for ripening of the karmic seeds for purging and purifying of the issues.

There is a deeper aspect to my work I will start to increasingly come into ... I am to work with this energy (strongly placed in my chart). I know what it is to drown, to be abandoned and betrayed, to release and forgive, and I've been going thru her 'watery furnace' of purification for years. There is very little left of 'me' (my note – not so sure I agree with that!!).

Reminded of the image in a book of Tibetan Buddhist teachings, the image of not following a spiritual path when there is the capacity and opportunity to do so in a lifetime being like a small child playing with toys in a room in a house that is burning to the ground.

This energy is so deep, and yet 'high' – like subtoning with high overtones? – that few can connect or touch it, or are ready for the level of (ego) surrender, release, and 'sacrifice' called for to approach her 'altar.' She will remain a 'dumb note' for most for some time, yet assist as possible as we collectively move thru the purging and purification we as a planetary collective are entering.

No, it is no 'accident' that for those of us who can take first steps to engage with this archetypal planetary being that we find our Sedna conjunct Admetos. Sedna is the next harmonic, just as Admetos is to Saturn – ("as you have aptly said, Admetos makes Saturn look 'perky'!").

She did a slow, flowing, spiral dance (reminded me of some of the Tibetan ritual dance) clockwise for a while, then with a low, slow scooping movement, turned counterclockwise for a moment – retrograde (Rx)! Direct motion creates, moves new ground, while retrograde motion releases and discharges the energy to balance for the next movement forward in the spiral.

My deep alliance with whales and dolphins help me to connect to her – the deeper, the higher, and their deep connection with the cosmos. I played my koauau iwi toroa (Maori albatross bone flute) for her and gave her pearls.

Sedna is one of the sentries for this solar system. She 'colors' and 'shapes' what comes thru the stargates. She has her 'work' and it really is not appropriate to 'bother' her with that which is trite and small, or outside her domain. She will work with us as needed and possible, in her own time and way.

I heard 'Lullaby for Nabroth' (one of my piano compositions). The Inuit, and the explosive wild ferociousness of Iceland and Greenland helped to prepare me for this meeting, the energy adjustment and infusion I got from them while flying over those countries. Note Bjork - check her chart as she embodies a good human interpretation of this energy. Listen again to the Inuit throat singing the women do. Note the fire in their breath ~ do it myself and see what this fire breath does for my focus, awareness and energy! (I did so....)

Aurora Borealis – remember that the North Pole is our most accessible gateway to beyond Earth. Sedna is another facet of the gem that is the Black Madonna archetype in a far more primordial and wrathful expression, closer to Ekajati. She is a dakini.

There is an enormous influx of energy and assistance coming into this (Earth) planetary being now. Be still to perceive and ride the wave of it, the light that can only be seen thru the darkness, the sound that can only be heard in total silence. (heard the soft low piano notes at the end of 'Path of Stillness') When possible, do another yangti dark retreat (3 days).

Not only be still enough, but also actively work to release old limitations, conditioning, habituation. Open your energy ('outer rushen'). This purging energy can help to break up (dissolve? shatter?) cellular memory and patterning that no longer serves, except to limit. (neuropeptides?) Mostly note to allow time and energy for both deep stillness and presence, and for action, movement and sounding. Both are needed in turn.

Closer to the equator there is much earthly distraction of senses and engagement – more extraverted, outward direction of focus, as opposed to the contemplative, less populated far north (and near the south pole, tho it's different there). Also those high places like the Tibetan plateau, where the raw, wild energy also is present.

Sedna then appeared holding a peacefully sleeping baby wearing a fur-lined hood in the deep cold. Quiet scene ... the background was a deep, vibrant cobalt blue. Something new is coming into being. Allow it ... slowly, silently. I sat quietly with the energy for a long time ... " www.rubymala.com/content/contact.htm

Raymond

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posted January 22, 2015 04:54 AM            

Sedna conjunct Chiron exact
Sedna conjunct sun by 1
Sedna sq mars by 1

I relate to the myth definitely.

"In his arms, my lady lay asleep, wrapped in a veil. He woke her then and trembling and obedient she ate that burning heart out of his hand. Weeping I saw him then depart from me."

posted January 22, 2015 02:35 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
So what is the lesson here then?
Focus this energy on universal love, rather than romantic love?

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Something like that. I understand it's supposed to be a Neptune type of energy (there was a thread in asteroids saying that anyway) but as mentioned above there's passion to it too. I actually feel it's the very moment between those two states. Unless I'm just not there yet - very likely - having universal love, this kind with Sedna isn't possible without a personal dimension. As this story too seems to be about romantic/personal dragged out of universal sea. I think as a transntunian body there's this particular strand to transformation of not being able to reconcile those or choose one state but because of that each is felt more keenly through the other - a different processing of authenticity about those than singularly Neptune or Pluto.

It could be because I've Chiron there.

Edit none of that makes sense to me so tbh I don't know but I think there's something different there to the concept of a universal love and that if that's the message romantic love is going to lead to that state. Maybe pursuing universal would appease a Sedna energy, make it gentler - but I just can't imagine how it gets to that compassion out of turbulence without the turbulence. I think sacrifice is important but different to a piscean type.