posted January 24, 2015 09:55 AM            

How would this play out in a relationship?

posted January 24, 2015 02:17 PM            

2nd...It's your NN and their Nessus?

Their Nessus is abusive or trickery, it just is? But their behavior will be something that is part of your NN path. Maybe it's what you learn from the relationship or maybe it's what you do and the mark you make due to the relationship and the things that happen. No matter what with your Jupiter conjunct the outcome will be one that brings blessings to you.

posted January 24, 2015 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
1st interpersonal astrology would be the best place for this question.

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I thought so

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2nd...It's your NN and their Nessus?

Their Nessus is abusive or trickery, it just is ? But their behavior will be something that is part of your NN path, maybe it's what you learn from the relationship of maybe it's what you do and the mark you make due to the relationship and the things that happen. No matter what with your Jupiter conjunct the outcome will be one that brings blessings to you.

One the highest side of this, they could bring you their Nessus energy and together you work to heal the cause of it, but no matter what you will see the energy of Nessus brought to you by this person.

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It's my Nessus actually conjucting their NN.
And my Jupiter conjucts their Nessus

I pretty much get the picture of what u are describing nonetheless, and thank you for ur reply

posted January 24, 2015 03:50 PM            

Anyway, I guess I will have to research a little further on this case.

Nessus has been of great interest these past few months.
Trying I guess to figure out what could make one suddenly want to explode viciously on one specific person for no particular reason, but also desire them at the same time. ouf

Also what part is their NN playing in all of this.

posted January 29, 2015 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Nessus-NN is a no-no. Jupiter will cushion things greatly though. Is his nessus in hard aspect to a natal planet? That is a big red flag. I have seen in it in a couple where his Venus-Nessus on her Sun-NN. It's because he has abusive natal aspects also that this relationship is doomed to fail, as pluto transits further.

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Oh dear. Didn't think it could be that bad

My Nes Rx in Cancer natally sextiles my Saturn and sq Mercury.
It conjucts her NN and opposes her Lilith.

Her Nes in Leo trines her Moon & Uran, sq Jupiter.
It conj my Jup, trines Sun &Mercury, sq Chiron.

Make it any easier maybe?

"as pluto transits further" meaning.?

posted January 30, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
You must also look at the maturity of the man, if he's someone that aspires to learn, grow and change...another's words a more evolved person.....it doesn't have to mean your going to be abusive.

You have free will to chose to act out the Nessus energy or to see it for what it, fight it and allow yourself to grow even more.
My Nessus energy doesn't come out and hurt ppl, and mine is conjunct Mars...the persons soul makes a huge difference in how it plays out.
Yes, you might find you have more raw feelings to deal with than normal and might have to fight a beast in you at times...but that doesn't mean you'll become abusive if you chose not to be abusive.

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I also believe that a persons soul makes a huge difference in how anything plays out.

Nessus seems like a mix of Mars & Pluto in a way.

I guess if you find a way to control him and find an outlet, you can use his energy in a positive way.

I am in no way abusive. But it seems I can become verbally,Only with this specific person from time to time.
That's where I can understand "fight the beast in you at times".

We are both females

Who knows, maybe some other aspect could be triggering this also

What would you say is a strong Nessus?

posted January 30, 2015 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

I also believe that a persons soul makes a huge difference in how anything plays out.

Nessus seems like a mix of Mars & Pluto in a way.

I guess if you find a way to control him and find an outlet, you can use his energy in a positive way.

I am in no way abusive. But it seems I can become verbally,Only with this specific person from time to time.
That's where I can understand "fight the beast in you at times".

We are both females

Who knows, maybe some other aspect could be triggering this also

What would you say is a strong Nessus?

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Nessus in females is different than Nessus in men, usually in women it shows more of the way men will be abusive to them. But that's not 100% always how it goes. I have a cancer Nessus rx, yes it shows how I was abused but I had an ex husband who had his mars sitting on my Nessus and he was abusive in the same way I had been hurt as a child.
Whoa....he woke my Nessus up! I briefly became abusive to him in my attempts to stop him from hurting me, I could have killed him but I had self control and got out of the situation before I could not control the energy anymore.

Your situation is unique, I almost wonder if she brings up repressed emotions, aggravations that remind you of things you have not dealt with and they still hurt?

I bet she is triggering things in you, more than you it's actually her your frustrated with.

posted January 30, 2015 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Nessus in females is different than Nessus in men, usually in women it shows more of the way men will be abusive to them. But that's not 100% always how it goes. I have a cancer Nessus rx, yes it shows how I was abused but I had an ex husband who had his mars sitting on my Nessus and he was abusive in the same way I had been hurt as a child.
Whoa....he woke my Nessus up! I briefly became abusive to him in my attempts to stop him from hurting me, I could have killed him but I had self control and got out of the situation before I could not control the energy anymore.

Your situation is unique, I almost wonder if she brings up repressed emotions, aggravations that remind you of things you have not dealt with and they still hurt?

I bet she is triggering things in you, more than you it's actually her your frustrated with.

Would you tell me how your Nessus aspects and how tight the aspects are to your personal planets? Is your Nessus Rx or direct?

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Sorry to hear about your past situation Gabby.
Hearing things like this tend to make me feel very angry I must say.
I'm glad to see though that you managed to get out of it before things got worse!

I'm not sure but it could probably play a role between gender I suppose, but it's sth I think I should also be looking at

I do at times feel this familiarity which could be bringing up repressed emotions that have most likely not been dealt with

My Nessus is also Rx in Cancer 1st house.
It squares my Mercury 3 deg, sextiles Saturn 1 deg & quincunx my Moon 1deg

posted January 30, 2015 07:11 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

Sorry to hear about your past situation Gabby.
Hearing things like this tend to make me feel very angry I must say.
I'm glad to see though that you managed to get out of it before things got worse!

I'm not sure but it could probably play a role between gender I suppose, but it's sth I think I should also be looking at

I do at times feel this familiarity which could be bringing up repressed emotions that have most likely not been dealt with

My Nessus is also Rx in Cancer 1st house.
It squares my Mercury 3 deg, sextiles Saturn 1 deg & semisextiles my Moon 1deg

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You have some tight aspects!

I'm sorry to hear your Nessus is cancer rx to.
That shows abuse from those who were suppose to nurture you, most likely those in your childhood home.

Your girl will most likely trigger hurts but she's not the issue. Use the emotions she brings up as a tool and go deeper to find the place the emotions originated.
Realize the feelings are not her fault and don't direct your reactions at her, at least try hard not to. The emotions are from past hurts that have not fully resurfaced.

My ex was a trigger but also an issue. Before him I remembered a lot of things but refused to allow myself to feel the pain, acknowledge how seriously I was hurt or cry. Save yourself the explosion and try to let any pain your repressing out slowly.

You have tight positive aspects, so Nessus will be a positive learning and growing experience for you but it's going to hurt before it gets better, esp since it's touching your moon.

Try being as introspective as possible maybe writing about your feelings and memories. Esp the memories you don't understand, confuse you or hurt. Allow yourself to feel as much as possible and go back as far as you can to try to find the emotions core.
Spend as much time as possible focusing on you and healing.
I hope I'm not upsetting or insulting, this is a sensitive subject so if you disagree with my thoughts or interpretation on this aspect...just ignore me!

posted January 30, 2015 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

Oh dear. Didn't think it could be that bad

My Nes Rx in Cancer natally sextiles my Saturn and sq Mercury.
It conjucts her NN and opposes her Lilith.

Her Nes in Leo trines her Moon & Uran, sq Jupiter.
It conj my Jup, trines Sun &Mercury, sq Chiron.

Make it any easier maybe?

"as pluto transits further" meaning.?

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I'd have to see the charts to comment properly. Synastry is more than just a few aspects but nessus isn't being aspected by any malefics (except chiron) in natal/synastry. It's also cushioned by Jupiter, (which is an EXALTED benefic influence) so I'd say it's malefic influence isn't that great, but that would also depend on angularity, planet strength etc.

posted January 31, 2015 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
You have some tight aspects!

I'm sorry to hear your Nessus is cancer rx to.
That shows abuse from those who were suppose to nurture you, most likely those in your childhood home.

Your girl will most likely trigger hurts but she's not the issue. Use the emotions she brings up as a tool and go deeper to find the place the emotions originated.
Realize the feelings are not her fault and don't direct your reactions at her, at least try hard not to. The emotions are from past hurts that have not fully resurfaced.

My ex was a trigger but also an issue. Before him I remembered a lot of things but refused to allow myself to feel the pain, acknowledge how seriously I was hurt or cry. Save yourself the explosion and try to let any pain your repressing out slowly.

You have tight positive aspects, so Nessus will be a positive learning and growing experience for you but it's going to hurt before it gets better, esp since it's touching your moon.

Try being as introspective as possible maybe writing about your feelings and memories. Esp the memories you don't understand, confuse you or hurt. Allow yourself to feel as much as possible and go back as far as you can to try to find the emotions core.
Spend as much time as possible focusing on you and healing.
I hope I'm not upsetting or insulting, this is a sensitive subject so if you disagree with my thoughts or interpretation on this aspect...just ignore me!

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No, you are in no way upsetting or insulting me. on the contrary, this is an eyeopener.
Thank u for the advice also

It's quite funny when you realise that unconscious or/and suppressed fears & hurts of the past, which obviously have not been dealt with, could surface throughout a relationship with just 1 specific person that just suddenly pops into your life. but unfortunately in a painful manner.

I feel as if these emotions are being manipulated by her though.most probably unconsciously

There had been some form of abuse in childhood years, not so much directly at me or too physical though.
But abuse is abuse, any way you look at it.

I'm still quite basic in astrology but it's helped to reassure my intuition by the info I obtain from time to time

posted January 31, 2015 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:
No, you are in no way upsetting or insulting me. on the contrary, this is an eyeopener.
Thank u for the advice also

It's quite funny when you realise that unconscious or/and suppressed fears & hurts of the past, which obviously have not been dealt with, could surface throughout a relationship with just 1 specific person that just suddenly pops into your life. but unfortunately in a painful manner.

I feel as if these emotions are being manipulated by her though.most probably unconsciously

There had been some form of abuse in childhood years, not so much directly at me or too physical though.
But abuse is abuse, any way you look at it.

I'm still quite basic in astrology but it's helped to reassure my intuition by the info I obtain from time to time

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Let me reassure you, it's not intentionally on her part. Shes been put in your life with certain qualities meant to wake up parts of you that it's time to heal. Everything is orchestrated to help you heal, she's been brought to you as part of this process.

posted January 31, 2015 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:

I'd have to see the charts to comment properly. Synastry is more than just a few aspects but nessus isn't being aspected by any malefics (except chiron) in natal/synastry. It's also cushioned by Jupiter, (which is an EXALTED benefic influence) so I'd say it's malefic influence isn't that great, but that would also depend on angularity, planet strength etc.

Pluto was an example btw.

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Nice to know

Yeah I realised that a little later about Pluto
It's usually the time a little before I go to sleep I misinterpret things

I seem to have understood quite a lot about Nessus here. And how he could in fact play a fairly big role in a chart, also in synastry.

posted January 31, 2015 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Let me reassure you, it's not intentionally on her part. Shes been put in your life with certain qualities meant to wake up parts of you that it's time to heal. Everything is orchestrated to help you heal, she's been brought to you as part of this process.

Yes she probably pushes your buttons, in just the way you need them to be pushed. A way that forces you to look deeper inside yourself because you don't like the person you become around her at times. You don't like hurting her so you begin searching for the reasons you do hurt her.
It's this process that opens you up to heal.
She's a catalyst sent to help you, by YOU.
Your subconscious is ready for these things to become conscious so they can be fixed. She's part of the path to reconnecting you to what you've hidden from yourself.
It hurts, but it's a process that will lead you both to a better place.
I'm glad your ready to heal this, it shows your strength of character and a huge desire to grow to become better.

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I would have to agree with basically all of what you are saying.
I remember saying 'this is karmic' for some reason, from the start of this relationship, after a huge outburst.

These past months do seem like I am going through a healing process, for her & me. after another painful (temporary?)seperation

Gabby, would it be too much to ask if you could take a quick look at our chart some day? that's if you have the time ofcourse. Also just to get a little insight on if this relationship may have come to an end this time and let go or has another chance to continue maybe under different circumstances

This would have to be done in Interpersonal obviously

posted January 31, 2015 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

I would have to agree with basically all of what you are saying.
I remember saying 'this is karmic' for some reason, from the start of this relationship, after a huge outburst.

These past months do seem like I am going through a healing process, for her & me. after another painful (temporary?)seperation

Gabby, would it be too much to ask if you could take a quick look at our chart some day? that's if you have the time ofcourse. Also just to get a little insight on if this relationship may have come to an end this time and let go or has another chance to continue maybe under different circumstances

This would have to be done in Interpersonal obviously

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Sure post the natals, synastry, and comp with asteroids

Check these asteroids but out only post the ones that make important aspects please....

Nessus 7066
Dejanira 157
Angel 11911
Valentine 447
Psyche 16
Karma 3811
Discovery 9770
Compassion 8990
Knight 29391

1862 Apollo - God of healing, teacher to Chiron and Father of Asklepios.

1027 Aescualpia (Asklepios or Askalaphus) - God of healing. Taught by Chiron; can indicate a healer as well as timing for medical attention.

10 Hygeia - Goddess of health and hygiene. Refers to cleanliness and health efforts, well being.

2878 Panacea - Goddess of cures. The “cure-all,” remedies. All types of cures, from conventional to alternative.

3063 Makhaon - Son of Asklepius, he is associated with surgery; can indicate timing of surgery by transit or progression.

4086 Podalerios - Son of Asklepius; associated with the healing of invisible wounds, the healing of the soul and of the mind/body.

5239 Reiki: Represents energy healing, healing with chakras, and psychic healing.

posted January 31, 2015 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Sure post the natals, synastry, and comp with asteroids

Check these asteroids but out only post the ones that make important aspects please....

Nessus 7066
Dejanira 157
Angel 11911
Valentine 447
Psyche 16
Karma 3811
Discovery 9770
Compassion 8990
Knight 29391

1862 Apollo - God of healing, teacher to Chiron and Father of Asklepios.

1027 Aescualpia (Asklepios or Askalaphus) - God of healing. Taught by Chiron; can indicate a healer as well as timing for medical attention.

10 Hygeia - Goddess of health and hygiene. Refers to cleanliness and health efforts, well being.

2878 Panacea - Goddess of cures. The “cure-all,” remedies. All types of cures, from conventional to alternative.

3063 Makhaon - Son of Asklepius, he is associated with surgery; can indicate timing of surgery by transit or progression.

4086 Podalerios - Son of Asklepius; associated with the healing of invisible wounds, the healing of the soul and of the mind/body.

5239 Reiki: Represents energy healing, healing with chakras, and psychic healing.

After I look at your charts there might be more asteroids I ask you look up for me but these will give a good start.

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Great! I really appreciate this

posted January 31, 2015 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by 3l3n:

Great! I really appreciate this

It's also a chance to refresh my knowledge of the Greek Gods/esses

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posted March 20, 2015 05:00 PM            

His NESSUS conjunct my NNODE, 0°.

It isn't pretty.

I ultimately learnt how much emotional abuse I had allowed to slip into my relationships. The way he's been SO blatant about it meant I HAD to take notice.

Eventually, I disengaged from the relationship and began devoting my time and attention to my own betterment, and reconsidering a relationship that had never truly gotten off the ground for many reasons. Much having to do with my ex-Twin (the NESSUS).

Best thing I did. He's wonderful, and I'm MUCH happier.

He still gets his hooks in me, or tries, when he thinks he can. I'm stronger now. He can't hurt me like he used to.

Sucks, but I guess that was the lesson. I miss him sometimes. The incredible work we did together: one mind, one soul.

posted March 20, 2015 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
Sounds like a painful experience/lesson Aubyanne. In my case, there is no way other than stop communicating with her. Lost a mother really.

So if you see someone's Nessus conj. your NN, would you walk away without even trying now? Even if a chart contains some nice aspects? Just curious.

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