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angel4845
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posted March 29, 2015 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would you interpret my name (angelica) in a man's draconic chart conjunct his valentine and juno in his tropical natal??


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posted March 30, 2015 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orbs under 2°?

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posted March 30, 2015 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES! It's actually under 1 degree orb. What would be your explaination of this aspect?

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posted March 30, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, he's got dANGELICA conjunct dVALENTINE and nJUNO?

Outstanding contract to resolve issues regarding equality of relating with an individual representative of 'Angelica' -- often by name. He carries a deep loving resonance with the name (and what it represents) in order to clear this karma. VALENTINE is a powerful force, able to neutralise a lot of negativity.

The contract may stem from a failed marriage in another lifeline, or one that was unfair to 'Angelica' which he must now clear the karma regarding. Further context can likely be seen in the sidereal points, as well as any aspects made from the sidereal to the tropical and Draco placements of VALENTINE, ANGELICA and JUNO.

If your charts activate this aspect (and cross-system stellium) then it is very likely you.

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posted March 30, 2015 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean cross system stellium? Or cross aspects could you give me an example?

And it's atually his natal valentine and natal juno

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posted March 30, 2015 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way my name asteroid in my chart conjuncts his name asteroid AND my girlfriends name asteroid but his name is closer by 1 degree orb which conjuncts his natal Lilith.

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posted March 30, 2015 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So, he's got dANGELICA conjunct dVALENTINE and nJUNO?

Outstanding contract to resolve issues regarding equality of relating with an individual representative of 'Angelica' -- often by name. He carries a deep loving resonance with the name (and what it represents) in order to clear this karma. VALENTINE is a powerful force, able to neutralise a lot of negativity.

The contract may stem from a failed marriage in another lifeline, or one that was unfair to 'Angelica' which he must now clear the karma regarding. Further context can likely be seen in the sidereal points, as well as any aspects made from the sidereal to the tropical and Draco placements of VALENTINE, ANGELICA and JUNO.

If your charts activate this aspect (and cross-system stellium) then it is very likely you.


It's interesting to say to clear karma from a failed marriage because his drKARMA conjuncts my drJUNO AND drEROS in the fifth house

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posted March 31, 2015 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wondered that, actually. I figured you'd correct me if I had misunderstood.

So he has dANGELICA conjunct nVALENTINE and nJUNO? Essentially, a natal tropical VAL-JUNO?

That's a bit different. But I'll wait until you confirm.

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posted March 31, 2015 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
What do you mean cross system stellium? Or cross aspects could you give me an example?

And it's atually his natal valentine and natal juno


Sure.

I have a cross-system SUN-MOON conjunction with my Guardian; my dMOON and his nSUN (1°20). If we add in my tropical TISIPHONE and LACHESIS, it becomes a cross-system stellium.

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posted March 31, 2015 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I wondered that, actually. I figured you'd correct me if I had misunderstood.

So he has dANGELICA conjunct nVALENTINE and nJUNO? Essentially, a natal tropical VAL-JUNO?

That's a bit different. But I'll wait until you confirm.



Yes that's correct ! All of it! Especially the natal valentine CONJUNCT juno. Now how is this a bit different?

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posted April 03, 2015 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would a 4 and 5 deg orb be too wide? I have this with someone DW in synastry and my valentine also conjuncts his Eros.

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posted April 07, 2015 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump to aubbyanne to my quote

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posted April 07, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Angelica. Been a rough month. I'll get to this today.

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posted April 07, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes take your time !

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posted April 13, 2015 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I wondered that, actually. I figured you'd correct me if I had misunderstood.

So he has dANGELICA conjunct nVALENTINE and nJUNO? Essentially, a natal tropical VAL-JUNO?

That's a bit different. But I'll wait until you confirm.


Hey auby ! Or anyone ! Been very curious to know what these aspects could mean to you ??

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posted April 14, 2015 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 14, 2015 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Would a 4 and 5 deg orb be too wide? I have this with someone DW in synastry and my valentine also conjuncts his Eros.

Yes. I'll sometimes consider a 4º, (preferably 3º30) if the other in a DW is 0º, or there's a tight parallel. Otherwise, it's ... more of a resonance rather than an aspect.

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posted April 14, 2015 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been going through a sort of reevaluation of how these configurations play out in charts, and, bear in mind, Angelica, these are NOT simple aspects -- they're complex patterns and configurations. They tend to require a lot of investigation; they're not something one can interpret simply.

Returning to your specific question, we have to consider how they're related. His ANGELICA is Draconic, and I've had to reconsider a lot of what Draco aspects really and truly mean. How they operate. I'm exploring a theory where the Draconic is actually where we're going, and how we're developing, using the features of the tropical to get there.

So if he has dANGELICA conjunct his natal VALENTINE-JUNO, this isn't karmic as much as it's fated, or for the purpose of greater soul evolution. I'd say it's a fated natal aspect, in which he can achieve great spiritual evolution through a committed, romantic relationship with someone in connexion to 'Angelica'. So we can naturally assume that to be a woman's name.

I'm not entirely sure how the Draco and tropical relate anymore together. That's going to take more work. For now, it's the direction in which we need to develop in order to achieve our soul's greatest evolution. So these are soul contracts we have, which are outstanding.

Now when it's natal to natal, that's a bit different -- again. Still, he carries a natural energy within his soul (Draconic) that can be realised through a committed relationship (JUNO) which explores True Love (VALENTINE) in relation to the name 'Angelica'.

Unfortunately, that's all I can tell you.

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posted April 14, 2015 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much yeeeees I can see that this is a hard investigation completely but that's okay I understand it isn't simple Id love to delve in further and show you other aspects that I also found interesting in my own chart that somehow connects to this aspect somewhat. The juno and valentine is interesting because it's in saggitarius and I have loooots of saggitarius no qualities my name asteroid in my natal is in sag plus my venus is in sag. And my name asteroid on his DRACO is in sag AS WELL which I find very interesting anyways it's a loooot of investigation and information to talk about and mention but I'm so happy you took the time to respond back thank you I look forward to a reading with you

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posted April 14, 2015 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find people with saggitarian influences veeeeey attractive and what's very strange is how his name im my natal is in sag and so is my love partner. The first time ever I met two people that are conjunxt my name in my own natal, it's very strange I don't know and they both have foreign feel to them and the way they look and act is very saggitarius philosophers Foreignher adventurer EVEYTHING saggitarean they represent is on my name ...in my natal I iust had to share that with you ..

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