posted March 30, 2015 08:21 PM            

For a TNP, I like to keep it to 1°30 at most. If a Midpoint, you can expand to 3°, but only if heavily configured. HADES is one I've studied in depth, actually, over the past two years. It's not PLUTO, but it can be used with PERSEPHONE. Its function is different, however.

It ranges, but these are the top influences, I'd say:

• criminality
• deep karma and 'ancient history'
• villainy and 'evil'
• ugliness and filth
• old and decaying

In my experience, it can be complex.

A tight CHIRON-HADES might be wounding as a result of Hadean elements, or the capacity to heal with the very same. AMOR shows the principle of unconditional love might be needed to heal these wounds or operate as a powerful instrument of purification.

Another feature of HADES can be its uncompromising approach to evil or ugliness, in which there might be desire to purify the offending issues or elements. Again, it's complex.

My boyfriend has a TISIPHONE-HADES (0°30) conjunct my CHIRON (0°) and PREY (3°). Being square my NODES, it paints a rather ... intense ... portrait of a skipped step, shall we say.

I've tried for years now to comprehend it fully, but the Transneptunians are multidimensional points, expressing in many facets across more than a single timeline. Rather than karma, they show the effects of alternate experiences as viewed through the lens of the present.

HADES, in this sense, is deep karma; that which is old and in need of purification and clearing. Eradication in some senses as well. It can also show where, in the current lifeline, one cannot face certain things, as well as the attitude towards the 'ugly and evil' -- and what characterises them both. As HADES can also be criminality, it may confront us with the criminal element; the unethical, violent, and villainous. It has some relationship to death, of course, but mostly its lesser 'glamourous' aspects: rather than the goth counterculture, undertakers, morticians, and forensic investigators.

posted March 31, 2015 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I don't have it aspecting any planets in my chart does that mean I don't have heavy past life karma?

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Good question, athene. I don't either, but it's heavily configured in my Guardian's chart which is conjunct my skipped step. So I specifically have a heavy karma to resolve with him.

posted March 31, 2015 11:06 AM            

Out of curiosity, how would you interpret those aspects with your boyfriend, exactly? What do you mean by a 'skipped step'? (sorry, I'm a bit slow here )

With tight, I meant that the Hades-Chiron-Amor conjunction is all within 0-1 degrees; it's also directly opposite this person's Sun. (Also square to his Aphrodite and Lust, but the orbs would be about 2 degrees there, so I don't suppose they count so much?)

I find this person very intriguing, almost in spite of myself. Many people who know him say there's something a bit unsettling about him, but nobody is able to say why. He seems like a perfectly nice person, albeit aloof and very serious. It's almost like there's a teflon surface to him; impossible to get hold of anything that might be under the surface. He's also a handsome man, I must say, but in a strangely impersonal and distant way: the way that ancient statues are handsome, lacking a lively spark. He looks a bit 'off' in modern clothes, like he should be clad in armour and have a sword in his hand, so perhaps he really does have some heavy karma about him?!

posted April 01, 2015 04:51 AM            

TF and I-
My SN taurus@21.44
My Hades taurus@24.03
My Proserpina aqua@23.04
His Proserpina scorp@25.33

His Venus taurus@25.33
His Fink taurus@25.18
His Maria taurus@24.04
His Magdelena scorp@27.22
His Galilea scorp@26.22
His Melancholia scorp@28.44
His Grieve leo@27.09

His Pluto virgo@25.07
His Nemesis virgo@25.21
His Lie pisces@25.20
His Juno pisces@26.
His Dejanira pisces@26.
His Babylon pisces@27.40

My Union cap@24.58
My Yeshuhua scorp@25.22
My Babylon scorp@25.37
My Josefa scorp@24.40

His Karma aries@25.11
His Hasse aries@25.28
My Chiron aries@24.14

My Union scorp@29.59
My Aura cancer@27
My Name cancer@27
His Name cancer@26
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Guardian and I-
My Proserpina aqua@23.04
My Hades taurus@24.03
His Hades taurus@25.19
His Proserpina taurus@27.02
His Jupiter taurus@26.51
His Grieve taurus@26.29

His Karma scorp@24.22
His Mercury scorp@24.01
His Mars scorp@24.18
His Melancholia scorp@27.26

posted April 01, 2015 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Petronilla:
I find this person very intriguing, almost in spite of myself. Many people who know him say there's something a bit unsettling about him, but nobody is able to say why. He seems like a perfectly nice person, albeit aloof and very serious. It's almost like there's a teflon surface to him; impossible to get hold of anything that might be under the surface. He's also a handsome man, I must say, but in a strangely impersonal and distant way: the way that ancient statues are handsome, lacking a lively spark. He looks a bit 'off' in modern clothes, like he should be clad in armour and have a sword in his hand, so perhaps he really does have some heavy karma about him?!

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