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Topic: Draconics and Declinations
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ReadingTheStars95
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posted April 02, 2015 05:42 PM
  
Ok.. So.. This could be fun.. LMAONow, I know not everyone pays attention to/uses Declinations.. Which is mainly only significant when using Parallels and Contra Parallels.. ( I have a few in my chart that seem to be very significant) I've realized.. A draconic chart would completely change the declination of the planets.. This, therefore, would have certain planets that were not previously parallel/contraparallel being parallel. Another hidden significance within Draconics?.... What do you think of the parallels/contra-parallels in your natal chart? What about the ones in your draconic? How about Parallels/contra-parallels between your Draconic, and your Natal?
Also.. I can't remember.. I think I once read that Declinations can be used with the fixed stars, if they are really tight. Is this correct?
I have personally found that looking at parallels/contra-parallels between the Draconic/Natal to be especially interesting..
I have some that seem to really resonate with me.. Draconic Chiron Parallel my Natal Moon would be one of them.. In fact, I think that personally says a lot. I will explain more later.. I've realized a possible way Contra-Parallels and Parallels may actually link Draconic and Natal charts, in a weird way.. Almost seeming to show a possible connection between the "soul memory" and its connection with your current natal chart/lifes.. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95
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posted April 02, 2015 07:54 PM
For example.. One interesting occurrence I found..My natal Sun is in Taurus (8th house) My Ascendant is Libra.. Of course, both of these signs being ruled by Venus. My Natal Venus is Parallel my Draconic Descendant, and it is Contra Parallel my Draconic Ascendant. (I'm going to add to this if I find anything tying in with my DRACONIC ascendant ruler... Which would be Neptune Edit: Now that I think about it.. Neptune IS Venus's higher octave.. Hmmmm..)
My Draconic Sun is in Libra. I have my Natal Interkosmos at 3 Pisces Parallel my Draconic sun. Not sure my Sun/Moon midpoint would really have any play in this.. But, it is at 2 pisces IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted April 02, 2015 08:08 PM
Way ahead of ya.  I learnt declination aspects from the wonderful late KT Boehrer, or 'Auntie KT' back in the '90s. Parallels and contraparallels can link ANYTHING. They just do so subtly and in a less immediately obvious fashion. And the CPL is a horse of a different colour; I think it's the most true form of a conjunction we have. (Which is why a conjunction with a parallel is a super-conjunction.) But I say 'true form' because our current understanding of conjunctions, I feel, belongs to the contraparallel, with the parallel itself being unique in understanding. There's a deep sense of alignment that occurs with a parallel. They're not hanging around together as much as they are one. A singular energy. Conjunctions can have an inner war going on, as the two try and find proper alignment. Like a couple. Parallels are points in such refined harmony that they are a single energy. That's my view, at least. KT also disliked the 'contraparallels are like less obvious oppositions' understanding, too. She liked my take on the contraparallel being more akin to our present understanding of a conjunction: two energies fighting to become one, and resonating with that kind of understanding. The desire for simpatico, coming from two different points of perspective -- as represented by the tendency for those bodies to be in longitudinal opposition, or near to it. They're fascinating, really. I think our true understanding of them is still in its infancy. But using them with cross-system astrology is one of my favourite pastimes. Sidereal to tropical to Draconic, and back again. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95
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posted April 02, 2015 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Way ahead of ya. I learnt declination aspects from the wonderful late KT Boehrer, or 'Auntie KT' back in the '90s. Parallels and contraparallels can link ANYTHING. They just do so subtly and in a less immediately obvious fashion. And the CPL is a horse of a different colour; I think it's the most true form of a conjunction we have. (Which is why a conjunction with a parallel is a super-conjunction.) But I say 'true form' because our current understanding of conjunctions, I feel, belongs to the contraparallel, with the parallel itself being unique in understanding. There's a deep sense of alignment that occurs with a parallel. They're not hanging around together as much as they are one. A singular energy. Conjunctions can have an inner war going on, as the two try and find proper alignment. Like a couple. Parallels are points in such refined harmony that they are a single energy. That's my view, at least. KT also disliked the 'contraparallels are like less obvious oppositions' understanding, too. She liked my take on the contraparallel being more akin to our present understanding of a conjunction: two energies fighting to become one, and resonating with that kind of understanding. The desire for simpatico, coming from two different points of perspective -- as represented by the tendency for those bodies to be in longitudinal opposition, or near to it. They're fascinating, really. I think our true understanding of them is still in its infancy. But using them with cross-system astrology is one of my favourite pastimes. Sidereal to tropical to Draconic, and back again.
Ah.. Cool. I was thinking, knowing this site, that at least SOMEONE on here has probably done work with Contraparallels and Parallels.. Thanks for the input. 
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Aubyanne
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posted April 02, 2015 08:19 PM
No worries, RTS. The best rule I can offer is to keep them very tight. Some say not to expand beyond 0º30, while others will go to 2º00. I'm of the opinion that the wider orb is acceptable if there's also a conjunction (definitely) or a longitudinal aspect that's in tight orb (say, 1º).But everyone's views and opinions vary. There are plenty who have been working with declinations, though, indeed. Do a site search and pull up some info, as it's scattered about. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted April 02, 2015 08:22 PM
Funny resonance, too. I'm a 2H Libra SUN, with a huge stellium in Scorpio -- including MOON and MERC (and EROS and LILITH, and KARMA and DESTINN -- and so on). My SUN Dwad is also TAU. 20º. And, obviously, my Huber SUN is 09º TAU 45. That's a whole lotta Taurean solar energy for a Libran! I guess you'd say I've got both 'sides' of Venus covered! IP: Logged |
Keela
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posted April 02, 2015 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Parallels and contraparallels can link ANYTHING. They just do so subtly and in a less immediately obvious fashion. And the CPL is a horse of a different colour; I think it's the most true form of a conjunction we have. (Which is why a conjunction with a parallel is a super-conjunction.) ... not hanging around together as much as they are one. A singular energy. Conjunctions can have an inner war going on, as the two try and find proper alignment. Like a couple. Parallels are points in such refined harmony that they are a single energy. She liked my take on the contraparallel being more akin to our present understanding of a conjunction: two energies fighting to become one, and resonating with that kind of understanding.
Going by that there's a "single entity" with my SN, Mars and Psyche. Only Mars and Psyche are near each other, ~6 degrees from each other, SN a bit further away. Add Saturn still under a degree (or whatever they were in declinations again) away so also joining the SN-Psyche-Mars parallel "entity". Not Psyche or SN, but Mars, the two being antiscia, anyway. ASC parallel Psyche and SN on the natal level as well. Neptune contraparallel all but Psyche, ASC. Moon-Osiris parallel gets the draconic Isis parallel to the two on top. (You want Isis-Osiris for TF potentials, how do you rate your layered parallels for them? ;P ) Draconic Neptune contraparallel the lot. Draconic Osiris 19.53 N hits or parallels natal Mars, Saturn, SN, Psyche; contraparallel Neptune, NN and drac Saturn. Draconic Eros contraparallel nSun, nPluto, nJuno and dChiron, dUnion. Lots of things to look at, but far too tired and falling asleep now for any of it. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted April 06, 2015 01:09 PM
Keela,I personally think ISIS-OSIRIS parallels are legitimate markers for Soulmate, Twin Flame, and other-such soul connexions. So far, I've seen that pan out. The layered ones are always fascinating, due to how many elements are involved. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 10, 2015 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Keela,I personally think ISIS-OSIRIS parallels are legitimate markers for Soulmate, Twin Flame, and other-such soul connexions. So far, I've seen that pan out. The layered ones are always fascinating, due to how many elements are involved.
I have Isis parallel Osiris double whammy with husband by 1d both. Interestingly my Draco Osiris opposes exact his Geo Isis. Enjoyed reading your perspective on this A, thanks. IP: Logged | |
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