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Topic: Exactly like lilith in taurus but not? little astro challenge here!
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confusedaseff
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posted April 05, 2015 06:59 PM
  
so i have a cousin who is exactly a lilith in taurus. miserliness, hides finances, drain on her man's wallet, spends like a mofo on herself and no one else. started dating young so she could get the cash benefits from her bfs. manipulates the living **** out of her mother to get more money then hides it and never gives anything backbut yet it doesn't say anything like that on her lilith/chart? instead she's got a: lilith asteriod in aries
true lilith in cancer
mean lilith in cancer
black moon in leo here's her chart - i don't know the time she was born. but her scorpio-ness and sagittarius is very very strong. i'm wondering if any of yous can see whats happening and what is causing her all these money issues? her chart: http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&cd=cprxfileTW4oCa-u1428016311&gif=astro_2gw_05_asdf.82248.48221.gif&res=100&va=&cid=prxfileTW4oCa-u1428016311 her natal aspects:
Uranus Conjunction AS
Mars Conjunction Jupiter
Uranus Conjunction Neptune
Mercury Conjunction MC
Venus Conjunction Mars
Neptune Conjunction AS
Sun Conjunction Mercury
Venus Conjunction Pluto
Venus Conjunction Jupiter
Moon Opposite Jupiter
Moon Opposite Mars
Jupiter Square Saturn
Moon Square Saturn
Mars Square Saturn
Sun Trine Saturn
Pluto Sextile AS
Uranus Sextile Pluto
Saturn Sextile Neptune
Sun Sextile Neptune
Sun Inconjunction Moon
Venus SemiSquare Neptune
Mars SemiSquare AS
Moon SesquiQuadrate MC
Saturn SesquiQuadrate MC
Sun Quintile AS
Sun SemiSextile Jupiter
Mercury SemiSextile Venus and of course any more insight into how she is as a person or in a relationship etc would be great. she's a bit of a handful. and she's dating a lad that has capricorn in 8 different planets in his chart O.o IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted April 05, 2015 07:10 PM
Lilith is not exactly a gold digger.Lilith is vengeful though. Lilith left the "fruitfully secure" life, cause Adam was not satisfying her. And when she found out she was replaced SHE FLIPPED. Or so I read. Maybe look where Ishtar is in her chart.
"Woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip." I have Lilith prominent in my chart. It conjuncts my Moon in Scorpio and Pluto. IP: Logged |
confusedaseff
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posted April 05, 2015 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
Lilith is not exactly a gold digger.Lilith is vengeful though. Lilith left the "fruitfully secure" life, cause Adam was not satisfying her. And when she found out she was replaced SHE FLIPPED. Or so I read. Maybe look where Ishtar is in her chart.
"Woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip." I have Lilith prominent in my chart. It conjuncts my Moon in Scorpio and Pluto.
i'm quite new to this - what's ishtar? what would it tell me about her? how would i find this out??? i know lilith is not a gold digger but from all descriptions of lilith in taurus i've read it's lilith in a gold digger role. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted April 06, 2015 12:32 PM
Ishtar is an ancient Goddess. It's an asteroid. You can see where the asteroid is in a chart through astro.comI have Ishtar conjunct Saturn in my chart. Oh I see, I don't think I've ever read about Lilith in Taurus. Here is a link that talks about Ishtar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar It can be hard to find info how asteroids play out in Astrology. Currently it seems the best way is to know where it is in someones chart and observe how it's playing out in their life and knowing the meaning of the asteroid. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 06, 2015 02:14 PM
Moving to Asteroid Astrology.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted April 06, 2015 02:27 PM
Oh, THAT's why you're looking at ISHTAR! No wonder. Now it makes sense.ISHTAR in LIBRA 6H, I wouldn't liken to the traits you've described above. Check dwads. Taurean energy obviously isn't JUST the aforementioned, but if you're thinking this is LILITH in TAU (which, I'm not sure I agree?) type energy, the check the LILITH / BML dwads. IP: Logged |
confusedaseff
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posted April 06, 2015 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Oh, THAT's why you're looking at ISHTAR! No wonder. Now it makes sense.ISHTAR in LIBRA 6H, I wouldn't liken to the traits you've described above. Check dwads. Taurean energy obviously isn't JUST the aforementioned, but if you're thinking this is LILITH in TAU (which, I'm not sure I agree?) type energy, the check the LILITH / BML dwads.
What are dwads and how do I check?? Sorry still kind of new to this. I'm assuming Lilith in Taurus but you don't really agree? What do you think it might be instead? IM not really interested in her and her bf. More curious into why she is the way she is to money. Turns out she's now on a back to back holiday - Vancouver then Dubai. but won't contribute to bills in her home she living rent free and Bill free in. Not like her mum didn't ask.
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Aubyanne
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posted April 06, 2015 04:37 PM
Well, no ONE aspect will make a personality. I'd look for several things to contribute to the overall portrait you're painting. Bear in mind, you're also viewing this from the perspective of one who seeks fair and just dealings in relationships, where both contribute rather equally and an individual strives to be self-sufficient. So behaviours opposite to that will definitely seem distasteful, regardless of reasons. As a result, it's also not really fair to ascribe those traits to a single placement, for example, LILITH in TAURUS. That might be arrived at attempting to condense two complex ideas into an oversimplified result. LILITH and BML are complex points. In TAURUS, one might be just as insistent upon self-sufficiency, making their own money, and being quote frugal with it.There are always reasons for power imbalances in relationships, too. Some remain functional and perfectly beneficial to both parties. At other times, there's exploitation and manipulation. Tough to say what's what astrologically, as WE ultimately express our influences. Her LEO BML might be an avenue, however. Especially if it's around REGULUS (29°). IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted April 06, 2015 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
Lilith is not exactly a gold digger.Lilith is vengeful though. Lilith left the "fruitfully secure" life, cause Adam was not satisfying her. And when she found out she was replaced SHE FLIPPED. Or so I read.
Forgive my feeling a correction is needed. Lilith was expected to be inferior to Adam. To submit to his authority. She left BECAUSE of her refusal. THEN, in discovery that she was replaced by Eve, was furious and (appropriately?) vengeful. The point indeed is choosing equality and personal empowerment over security under another's authority. Story of my life right there. Heh. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted April 07, 2015 04:29 PM
Well said Aubyanne.Story of my life too! My ex has already replaced me. I gave him no reaction besides unfriending him on FB about a week later. So now I'm just a Lilith looking for a Lucifer to have a bunch of demon spawns with and take over the wold.  IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted April 08, 2015 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
Well said Aubyanne.Story of my life too! My ex has already replaced me. I gave him no reaction besides unfriending him on FB about a week later. So now I'm just a Lilith looking for a Lucifer to have a bunch of demon spawns with and take over the wold.
 Sing it, sister. Lilith has only been demonised, besides, because a strong-willed, forward-thinking, equality-demanding woman is hard to control. Patriarchal machines -- whether it's organised religion, political structures, or cultures -- would hate for the women of their society to wake up and realise they HAVE the power to do WHATEVER they WANT to do. To, in essence, awaken the Lilith within. Which is precisely why they should. Rage against the machine!  IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire
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Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 08, 2015 08:30 PM
fkn lilith is strong in our time, everytime i clic on asteroid a. i see sumthink with black moon, maybe sche decides to speak sumthink again.
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Aubyanne
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posted April 09, 2015 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
fkn lilith is strong in our time, everytime i clic on asteroid a. i see sumthink with black moon, maybe sche decides to speak sumthink again.
The feminist movement is embodied in the Lilith principle, regardless which asteroid or point we take to represent her. Ever since it took off in the '60s, it's slowly been taking hold, growing in strength. It would be interesting to look at how prominent she was during some of the greatest milestones in feminism history. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted April 09, 2015 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Sing it, sister. Lilith has only been demonised, besides, because a strong-willed, forward-thinking, equality-demanding woman is hard to control. Patriarchal machines -- whether it's organised religion, political structures, or cultures -- would hate for the women of their society to wake up and realise they HAVE the power to do WHATEVER they WANT to do. To, in essence, awaken the Lilith within.Which is precisely why they should. Rage against the machine!
that reminds me, I walked out of my moms church one time, because they were demonizing gay people. IP: Logged | |
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