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Ami Anne
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posted April 17, 2015 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a client with this. How would you describe it?

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Aubyanne
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posted April 18, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DEJA, more that I'm discovering, is aided victimisation rather than victimisation due to vulnerability -- PREY, for instance. With PREY, we're knocked over the head and dragged away. With DEJA, we're cajoled into making a poor decision, drugged, and abducted. See the difference? So DEJA requires our participation -- even though we're being bamboozled.

So DEJA is largely about betrayal resulting from misplaced trust.

With MERCURY, that can show a predisposition towards mental seduction -- especially given whatever house it's in and ruling. Brainwashing, for example. She may find that she's got a tendency to be gullible, or overly susceptible to flattery.

DEJA gives us more power than we think, though. We can learn mental toughness (in her case) and how to pay closer attention to someone's actions over their words. For her, it may be that words don't amount to much, as she may be in the company of liars more than the average. Which, honestly, may stem from her lack of ability to be discerning and appropriately discriminating when it comes to what she's told is valid and true.

I'd investigate LIE and SWINDLE for her, too, as well as NEP afflictions.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 18, 2015 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
DEJA, more that I'm discovering, is aided victimisation rather than victimisation due to vulnerability -- PREY, for instance. With PREY, we're knocked over the head and dragged away. With DEJA, we're cajoled into making a poor decision, drugged, and abducted. See the difference? So DEJA requires our participation -- even though we're being bamboozled.

So DEJA is largely about [b]betrayal resulting from misplaced trust.

With MERCURY, that can show a predisposition towards mental seduction -- especially given whatever house it's in and ruling. Brainwashing, for example. She may find that she's got a tendency to be gullible, or overly susceptible to flattery.

DEJA gives us more power than we think, though. We can learn mental toughness (in her case) and how to pay closer attention to someone's actions over their words. For her, it may be that words don't amount to much, as she may be in the company of liars more than the average. Which, honestly, may stem from her lack of ability to be discerning and appropriately discriminating when it comes to what she's told is valid and true.

I'd investigate LIE and SWINDLE for her, too, as well as NEP afflictions.[/B]


Great post, Auby. Thank you!

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posted April 18, 2015 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Great post, Auby. Thank you!


No prob. Ami.

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Iced8Ace
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posted April 19, 2015 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this in natal, with chiron exactly opposing it. I have never been tricked or duped into any hairy situations. Smart enough to avoid that stuff.

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posted April 19, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
I have this in natal, with chiron exactly opposing it. I have never been tricked or duped into any hairy situations. Smart enough to avoid that stuff.


What does your Pluto do?

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posted April 19, 2015 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does your Nessus do, too?

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posted April 19, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deja is Dejanira?


Thanks ~

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posted April 19, 2015 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eirlys:
Deja is Dejanira?


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Yep!

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posted April 19, 2015 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What does your Pluto do?



Pluto retro, conjunct nessus 2*. Both square venus and conjunct IC. Pluto trines my Sun.

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posted April 19, 2015 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put down the orbs for these, I.

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posted April 19, 2015 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio IC 28.53
Scorpio Nessus (R) 27.38
Sag Pluto (R) 0.26
Venus Pisces 0.46
Sun Aries 7.42

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