posted April 21, 2015 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
I would consider Saturn conjunct 2432 or 2433 indicating an Annunaki Aware Soul in Native America.

And 2432 or 2433 conjunct Asteroid SUMERIA could point to an actual Annunaki OverSoul incarnate as a Human Being.

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Woah ! This is weird. No conjunctions, but

posted April 21, 2015 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
I just saw a new episode of "Ancient Aliens" in which a new twist was given to the Annunaki.

Many may know this but I am posting for those who missed out.

The Hopi people mention "Ant Friends" who saved their race [Hopi Ancestors] by giving them refuge in underground cities during the Flood and during a much earlier destruction by Fire/(Comet Crash?)

The Hopi word for Ant is "Anu"
The Hopi word for friend is "Naki"

So how did the Hopi know about the Sumerian "Gods" ?

This discovery gives addition impetus to the Asteroids 2432 and 2433 which mean "Starchildren" in Hopi.

I would consider Saturn conjunct 2432 or 2433 indicating an Annunaki Aware Soul in Native America.

And 2432 or 2433 conjunct Asteroid SUMERIA could point to an actual Annunaki OverSoul incarnate as a Human Being.

Much more research needs to be done of course but this is an important clue.

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iQ....I have Star-boy on my Saturn

My-
Sootiyo leo@5
Saturn leo@3
Logos loe@5
Lucifer leo@4
Atlantis taurus@5
Uranus scorp@5

Sun sag@5
Merc sag@4
BM Lilith aries@3
Karma libra@6
AC libra@7

NN scorp@22

Soomana aqua@22
Prosperpina aqua@23
Chaldaea aqua@23
Eureka aqua@22

Sumeria aries@22
Vertex aries@22
Destin libra@22

Alma leo@22
Essen leo@21
Apollo leo@22

Siva saggy@22
Kama saggy@22
Part of Fortune saggy@22

Giza gemini @23
Raphela gem@23
Ur gemini@24

My Draco Vertex leo@29 is on Summeria exact square my Tropical Hopi taurus@29

My Draco Hopi is exact on my Trop AC/Karma

Dr. Soomana is on Trop Mars
Dr. Sootiyo/Saturn is on Trop Neptune
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More questions iQ....
In synastry what would someone's Soomana being exact on my Sootiyo on my Saturn, all squaring his NN mean?

posted April 21, 2015 11:08 PM            

Not sure what the relevant aspects would be... (like, is a sextile noteworthy at all if it's exact?)

I have Soomana conjunct my ASC (partile - rollin' with Ghandi?) and sextile to Saturn (also partile) and quintile to Sootiyo, while Sootiyo quintiles ASC.

As for Hopi, again not sure about sextiles and trines, but it sextiles my SN and Moon and trines my NN. A bunch of wide-ish conjunctions to other planets.

As for Sumeria, not much except for aspects to Lilith and Vertex.

So what should I take away from this (if anything?)

EDITED TO ADD:

I just checked out my Draconic chart in relation to the natals. Makes it more interesting.

DRACO Sootiyo exactly opposite natal Sun/Venus and exact trine of natal Chiron as well.

DRACO Sumeria is opposite natal Moon (and SN) and therefore conjunct natal NN. It also makes a partile trine to natal Hopi. It also is in an exact square with natal Sootiyo.

DRACO Hopi conjuncts my natal DSC/opposes ASC
and therefore opposes natal Soomana. It is also in a partile trine to my natal Saturn.

Draco never fails to blow me away by filling in the gaps.

Still wondering what it means. Is there another link of info? I will dig around the interwebs in the meantime.

posted April 22, 2015 11:05 AM            

I am adding Flagstaff to the mix because it is the small city at the base of the mountain that is sacred to the Hopi and is the home of the observatory where Soomana and Sootiyo were discovered. (Don't know about any caves, though).

Sootiyo 10 Leo 3
Atlantis 9 Lib 32
Hopi 14 Lib 40
Sumeria 15 Sag 26
Soomana 16 Pis 30
Flagstaff 17 Ari 55
Saturn 23 Vir 52
DNA 24 Lib 33

So, my Sootiyo and Saturn are semisquare by about 1 degree.

Sumeria is at my favorite (and probably most powerful) asteroid grouping in my chart, in the first house:

posted April 22, 2015 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm seeing that SATURN seems the more common aspect.

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posted April 22, 2015 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Love Flagstaff. That whole area of northern Arizona I'm very keyed into.

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One of my favorite places; was blessed to live there for several years, and actually worked on the Hopi reservation as well.

posted April 22, 2015 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Love Flagstaff. That whole area of northern Arizona I'm very keyed into.

Anyone else have the SOOTIYO conjunct SUMERIA? I'm seeing that SATURN seems the more common aspect.

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Does anyone else other than me and BW have the conjunction with Saturn?
My grandmother is full Cherokee Indian

Hopi is opposed my Soulie/Divin/Parvarti/Maglaham
conjunction on my Sun/Merc

I have an exact sextile with Summeria on my Vertex, Soomana on Eureka square NN, missed step, ugh!

posted April 22, 2015 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Anyone else have the SOOTIYO conjunct SUMERIA? I'm seeing that SATURN seems the more common aspect.

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My nephew, who is about 50% Native American (although not Hopi) doesn't have a conjunction, but does have an exact opposition:

Soomana 20 Sco R
Sumeria 20 Tau

Saturn 24 Sco R (so very wide conjunction)

Sootiyo 16 Vir
Hopi 27 Sag
Flagstaff 19 Sco

(If anyone I know is a star seed of some kind - a concept about which I'm very skeptical - it would be him)

posted April 22, 2015 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Does anyone else other than me and BW have the conjunction with Saturn?
My grandmother is full Cherokee Indian

Hopi is opposed my Soulie/Divin/Parvarti/Maglaham
conjunction on my Sun/Merc

I have an exact sextile with Summeria on my Vertex, Soomana on Eureka square NN, missed step, ugh!

Is there an asteroid starchild or moonchild? It seems I remember something but can't remember exactly.

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posted April 22, 2015 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Adrien Brody does, and a few other celebs I don't remember. But I can look them up again.

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posted April 22, 2015 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Anyone else have the SOOTIYO conjunct SUMERIA?

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Crap, I forgot the declinations ! Cyril has a wide parallel between the two. Does this count ?

posted April 22, 2015 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Huh....interesting thank you! Ya, if you can look them up id appreciate it!

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posted April 22, 2015 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Crap, I forgot the declinations ! Cyril has a wide parallel between the two. Does this count ?

SOOTIYO : 8º21'18" S
SUMERIA : 9º42'31" S

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posted April 22, 2015 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ehhhhhhhhh. I dunno. First of all, VERY wide parallel, secondly, without even a wide conjunction to back it up? I'm going with 'no'.

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Thought so.

I lookep up conjunctions between the two and found that they were conjunct for a rather long time in 1961-62.

... That means both my parents have it.

Hers

SOOTIYO : 10° ARI 54' (and 6°57'33" N)
SUMERIA : 12° ARI 21' (and 8°52'15" N)

His

posted April 22, 2015 07:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Sure. After my piano practice, in a few hours' time. Will keep you posted if I find anymore !

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posted April 22, 2015 11:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
SOOTIYO conj SATURN 0°17'

The sabian symbols.
SATURN: "A Blazing Fireplace In A Deserted Home"
SOOTIYO: "Three 'Old Masters' Hanging On The Wall Of A Special Room In An Art Gallery"

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BW, have you ever looked at asteroid Rhesus(9142)?
The Rhesus monkey has the DNA that is the genetic link between humans and monkeys and the reason behind the evolution theory.
I'm RH negative, so I don't have the DNA that connects me to the Rhesus monkey. The DNA that is unique to RH negative ppl they have not found where it originates. No other DNA like it has been found on earth.

I find it interesting that my asteroid Rhesus exact opposes my Saturn(the "karmic freedom point")
Also it also opposes Sootiyo since it's on my Saturn.
Karma is humanity's curse, it's the reason we continue to reincarnate, we believe it...it's in our genetics, it's unconscious that we MUST balance the energy we have accumulated in our lives as human. Once we enter this life this belief becomes our burden...we don't know anything else. We come back life after life to struggle with this responsibility.
We are tied to this process until we either complete it or maybe there's another option?
To me this aspect seems to be saying that overcoming my karma is done by coming to understand myself beyond my human existence.
Rhesus being the link that makes you human and tied to Earth, this link opposes my Saturn/karma/our responsibility on Earth.
But im RH negative and that Rhesus(RH) astroid sits on my karmic freedom point.
Maybe its saying in order to break this cycle I must allow myself to stop thinking in such a human way (I'm RH negative so my freedom point is yelling at me to see "I am not of Earth" it's saying "your not RH and seeing that is how you break free from karma")
To start seeing myself as the life force I am outside of or beyond the "reality" or false reality I see around me.
If I see myself as divinity instead of the humanity that dies due to fear, fear brought on by the painful cycle of Karma as it plays out it's balancing act of pain and pleasure...seeing this would allow me and all of us to evolve back into our true beings and our true reality, our light energy/our life being the same energy as the universe.

Does that make any sense at all?

Sabian for my Rhesus-
"A hindu healer" 4 Aquarius

Theme: Self heal
Inspiration: 'Self medication' might be defined as the ability to allow your whole being to heal.
Imagine a hot knot of twisted energy threads that, when allowed to unwind at their own pace, release and relieve.

posted April 22, 2015 11:54 PM            

4 -- 20 December 1961 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO and SOOMANA) : Kimberly Scott, Sarah Sutton, Bill Hicks, Shane Black.
17 January -- 4 February 1965 (SATURN conjunct SOOMANA) : René Franco, Carlos Saldanha, Brandon Lee, Cady Huffman.
27 April -- 13 May 1965 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO) : Jim Walker, Yan Birch, Mario Lara, Carla Collins, Ari Lehman, Jodi Russell, Leslie Hope.
1 -- 18 March 1969 (SATURN conjunct SOOMANA) : Chaz Bono, Paul Blackthorne, Andrea Elson, Rick Segall, Terrence Howard.
31 May -- 26 June 1970 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO) : Izabella Scorupco, Julie St Claire, Michael Sutton, Paul Thomas Anderson.
5 -- 22 April 1973 (SATURN conjunct SOOMANA) : Emma Caulfield, Guillaume Canet, Micah May, Adrien Brody, Akon.
5 October -- 17 November 1975 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO) : Kate Winslet, Jose Rosete, Amy Bailey, Johnny Whitworth, Heather Tom, Halina Reijn, Alberto Pavon, Matthew Black.

posted April 22, 2015 11:57 PM            

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Gabby,

4 -- 20 December 1961 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO and SOOMANA) : Kimberly Scott, Sarah Sutton, Bill Hicks, Shane Black.
17 January -- 4 February 1965 (SATURN conjunct SOOMANA) : René Franco, Carlos Saldanha, Brandon Lee, Cady Huffman.
27 April -- 13 May 1965 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO) : Jim Walker, Yan Birch, Mario Lara, Carla Collins, Ari Lehman, Jodi Russell, Leslie Hope.
1 -- 18 March 1969 (SATURN conjunct SOOMANA) : Chaz Bono, Paul Blackthorne, Andrea Elson, Rick Segall, Terrence Howard.
31 May -- 26 June 1970 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO) : Izabella Scorupco, Julie St Claire, Michael Sutton, Paul Thomas Anderson.
5 -- 22 April 1973 (SATURN conjunct SOOMANA) : Emma Caulfield, Guillaume Canet, Micah May, Adrien Brody, Akon.
5 October -- 17 November 1975 (SATURN conjunct SOOTIYO) : Kate Winslet, Jose Rosete, Amy Bailey, Johnny Whitworth, Heather Tom, Halina Reijn, Alberto Pavon, Matthew Black.

I only did the beginning

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posted April 23, 2015 12:08 AM            

Are starseeds and lightworkers the same?

Thanks!

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