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Aurora_girl1990
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posted May 25, 2015 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have moon conjunct Dejanira/child within 3 degrees and i was wondering if it indicates sexual abuse in childhood?

Backstory is that i peaked sexually at a young age.Started having some vivid sexual thoughts at around 9/10 and i was wondering now if it's because i was abused when young even though i can't recall anything like that.When i was younger i just assumed i peaked early because i was sexually active in a past life and it carried forward to this life.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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posted May 25, 2015 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is actually at which degrees? IOW, please list Moon/Deja--2 degrees etc.

I think Moon/Deja is the single hardest aspect in the entire chart but each degree is key because an exact aspect is very different than 3 degrees.

All Moon/Deja I have seen have been sexually abused and had some manner of fragmentation to their personality.

We, all, can be fragmented to some degree or another, from trauma, stress etc, but Moon/Deja seems to really have been hurt, through no fault of her own, of course.

If the Moon/Deja were 3 degrees, it would be much less than exact, but still a factor.

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posted May 25, 2015 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990:
Hi,

I have moon conjunct Dejanira/child within 3 degrees and i was wondering if it indicates sexual abuse in childhood?

Backstory is that i peaked sexually at a young age.Started having some vivid sexual thoughts at around 9/10 and i was wondering now if it's because i was abused when young even though i can't recall anything like that.When i was younger i just assumed i peaked early because i was sexually active in a past life and it carried forward to this life.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


No astrological placement on its own can confirm sexual abuse in childhood.

It is good practice to investigate the astrology from a place of hard evidence/memory of the abuse.

If you are concerned about your sexual development, or concerned that you experienced abuse, a therapist is the one who is qualified to support you.

Astrology cannot perform this function.

Should you see a qualified therapist and conclude with them that you experienced abuse, then looking at the astrology could assist you in determining astrological energies that may have contributed to this.

But, I must stress, until you have confirmed sexual abuse, looking for it in astrology is potentially very, very dangerous for your mental wellbeing.

Please be careful of blanket statements on all astrology sites regarding markers of abuse, until you have identified that this actually happened.

I truly hope the reason for your concerns are something other than abuse Aurora.

Early sexual development can happen for other reasons, and for no identifiable reason. development is very individual.
Age 9/10 is still within the parameters of normal sexual development, as it pertains to a heightened awareness of the body and sexual organs. Children often explore their bodies at this age (and before).
Puberty can also begin around this age, without any sexual abuse.

Perhaps you could research early sexual development, and consider factors other than abuse. if you still believe you experienced abuse, then please find a therapist who listens deeply, and allows you to direct your healing process as much as you are able.

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posted May 25, 2015 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
No astrological placement on its own can confirm sexual abuse in childhood.

It is good practice to investigate the astrology from a place of hard evidence/memory of the abuse.

If you are concerned about your sexual development, or concerned that you experienced abuse, a therapist is the one who is qualified to support you.

Astrology cannot perform this function.

Should you see a qualified therapist and conclude with them that you experienced abuse, then looking at the astrology could assist you in determining astrological energies that may have contributed to this.

But, I must stress, until you have confirmed sexual abuse, looking for it in astrology is potentially very, very dangerous for your mental wellbeing.

Please be careful of blanket statements on all astrology sites regarding markers of abuse, until you have identified that this actually happened.

I truly hope the reason for your concerns are something other than abuse Aurora.

Early sexual development can happen for other reasons, and for no identifiable reason. development is very individual.
Age 9/10 is still within the parameters of normal sexual development, as it pertains to a heightened awareness of the body and sexual organs. Children often explore their bodies at this age (and before).
Puberty can also begin around this age, without any sexual abuse.

Perhaps you could research early sexual development, and consider factors other than abuse. if you still believe you experienced abuse, then please find a therapist who listens deeply, and allows you to direct your healing process as much as you are able.



Thank you Voix_de_la_Mer,that helps alliviate my concerns a lot.

I was asking because of what Ami said that moon/dejanira conjunction can indicate sexual abuse in the natal chart.That's why i was worried if i was sexually abused even though i recall no memory of it.

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posted May 25, 2015 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is actually at which degrees? IOW, please list Moon/Deja--2 degrees etc.

I think Moon/Deja is the single hardest aspect in the entire chart but each degree is key because an exact aspect is very different than 3 degrees.

All Moon/Deja I have seen have been sexually abused and had some manner of fragmentation to their personality.

We, all, can be fragmented to some degree or another, from trauma, stress etc, but Moon/Deja seems to really have been hurt, through no fault of her own, of course.

If the Moon/Deja were 3 degrees, it would be much less than exact, but still a factor.



Moon/dejanira is 3 degrees,moon/child is 3 degrees,child/dejanira is exact.I also have child/dejanira conjunct mars 1 degree

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posted May 25, 2015 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3 is wide. Some Astrologers would think too wide to count, but I see it as ambient. Child/Deja would indicate abuse to me, but not as severe as Moon/Deja, from my experience.

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posted May 25, 2015 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990:

Thank you Voix_de_la_Mer,that helps alliviate my concerns a lot.

I was asking because of what Ami said that moon/dejanira conjunction can indicate sexual abuse in the natal chart.That's why i was worried if i was sexually abused even though i recall no memory of it.


I'm glad I could help Aurora.

This is why we have to be careful of fatalistic astrology interpretations, they can upset us needlessly.

You done the right thing asking, and trusting your own mind/experience, rather than just believing what you read.

A questioning mind is a powerful mind!

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posted May 25, 2015 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No placement is guaranteed in that way! You can't look at your chart and know something happened, it's energy that is there...it's possibilities not definite certainties.

I have the same conjunction, mine is 3 degrees apart...
Dejanira virgo@15-16
Moon virgo@18.32
Child virgo@19.12

I was abused but that does not mean everyone with this aspect would have to be abused.

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Seimei
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posted May 26, 2015 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, >> "This is why we have to be careful of fatalistic astrology interpretations, they can upset us needlessly."



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