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Topic: Aeternitas (eternity)
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 18, 2015 01:51 PM
"Aeternitas holds a cornucopia, leans on a scepter, and has one foot placed on a globe, imagery that links the concepts of eternity, prosperity, and world dominion. From the 2nd to the mid-3rd century, the iconography of Aeternitas includes the globe, celestial bodies (stars, or sun and moon), and the phoenix, a symbol of cyclical time, since the phoenix was reborn in flames every 500 years.[9] Aeternitas sometimes holds the globe on which the phoenix perches.[10]In The Marriage of Philology and Mercury, Martianus Capella says that Aeternitas is among the more honored of Jupiter's daughters. He mentions her diadem, the circular shape of which represents eternity.[11] The male equivalent of Aeternitas is Aion, the god of limitless time.[12]" from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeternitas Patriotism enforced through symbolism? True, blessed eternity personified? A mix of these? Interesting that she is related to the dominion of Rome over the earth. I wonder if she plays into our present firm of civilization holding sway in our psyches. Maybe she is related to that which really does permeate and sustain all... How does this play into your chart? Your synastries? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2015 08:45 PM
AETERNITAS (446) is actually one of my favourite skyrocks. (I love the fact it's numerically adjacent to VALENTINE, too.)I've got an 11H composite stellium that's rather lovely: AURA-JUNO-VALENTINE-MERCURY-HYPERBOREA-AETERNITAS. MERCURY is 9R, 11R and 12R (since it's intercepted). So I especially like its inclusion in the stellium. The AURA-VALENTINE-JUNO is trine UNION (1°) and the HYPERBOREA-AETERNITAS is trine BML (0°). In our synastry, his AETERNITAS is conjunct my JUPITER (0°) with mine conjunct his PSYCHE (2°) and AMBROSIA (1°). I've always loved this one. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 3621 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 19, 2015 11:48 PM
My Aeternitas is conjunct his Alma and South Node, all within 1 degree. Would that mean we've been connected over several lifetimes? His Aeternitas is trine my Eros and Lust. So, who is the eternally lusty one - him or me? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 12:55 PM
quote: Aubyanne wrote:I've got an 11H composite stellium that's rather lovely: AURA-JUNO-VALENTINE-MERCURY-HYPERBOREA-AETERNITAS.
Yep, that's lovely! *** I think with the Eros-Lust-Aeternitas it would be both of you...
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 12:56 PM
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My Aeternitas is conjunct his Alma and South Node, all within 1 degree. Would that mean we've been connected over several lifetimes?
Big time! Double time, with the Alma there! Wowee. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 12:59 PM
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In our synastry, his AETERNITAS is conjunct my JUPITER (0°) with mine conjunct his PSYCHE (2°) and AMBROSIA (1°).I've always loved this one.
No wonder! That's huge, Aeternitas + Jupiter.... You're expanding the universe together! or like--yeah-there's more space than there is space--ends of everything and beyond--can't put it into words properly lol..
And Psyche and Ambrosia... yum. IP: Logged |
SoaringLeaves Knowflake Posts: 87 From: Pluto's heart Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 21, 2015 07:10 AM
The Roman personification of eternity. This is one of my favorite asteroids, though probably in a more wishful-thinking way. It's conjunct my MC (and Fama, TRIUMF) and sextile my Uranus. I yet have to see any abundance in my career or public image. I like it regardless. P.S. Actually my previous career was abundant, but I could hardly call it memorable in any way, much less eternity worthy. IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 846 From: Pandora's box Registered: Mar 2015
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posted July 21, 2015 09:54 AM
Conjunct Pluto and exactly quincunx Atropos. www.cutecatgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/9-lives.jpg ------------------ Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 3073 From: Stars Registered: May 2009
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posted July 21, 2015 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: My Aeternitas is conjunct his Alma and South Node, all within 1 degree. Would that mean we've been connected over several lifetimes? His Aeternitas is trine my Eros and Lust. So, who is the eternally lusty one - him or me?
No, not necessiarly you would need a planet in direct aspect as well. Then take into account the houses and what if another person's name were attached. It might be saying that you were attached to the other person not him. Just because your alternates is there does not mean anything you truly have to look at his chart. The NN and south node in what houses ? What is he working on ? Where is he ascending and what asteroids are aspecting his Ascendant. Where did he decend from ? This will give you clues also look at your chart now following they seem to fit with each other if so then yes you can say that about the above asteroid with his South node as long as it fits with you. Not trying to be a downer it just seems like people are trying to skip the steps. And asteroids in aspect to asteroids with no planet involvement will do absolutely nothing. You need the planets to grab the attention of the asteroids. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 3621 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 21, 2015 02:29 PM
Thanks Vesta. Will go look .IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 330 From: Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 24, 2015 01:54 PM
You're right vesta. We are just playing when we're looking at individual aspects, to a great extent...IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 24, 2015 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by yungang_grotto: No wonder! That's huge, Aeternitas + Jupiter.... You're expanding the universe together! or like--yeah-there's more space than there is space--ends of everything and beyond--can't put it into words properly lol..And Psyche and Ambrosia... yum.
Yeah. It's 'bigger on the inside' with us. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 24, 2015 02:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by vesta: No, not necessiarly you would need a planet in direct aspect as well. Then take into account the houses and what if another person's name were attached. It might be saying that you were attached to the other person not him. Just because your alternates is there does not mean anything you truly have to look at his chart. The NN and south node in what houses ? What is he working on ? Where is he ascending and what asteroids are aspecting his Ascendant. Where did he decend from ? This will give you clues also look at your chart now following they seem to fit with each other if so then yes you can say that about the above asteroid with his South node as long as it fits with you. Not trying to be a downer it just seems like people are trying to skip the steps. And asteroids in aspect to asteroids with no planet involvement will do absolutely nothing. You need the planets to grab the attention of the asteroids.
Bear in mind, vesta, that some of that is new theory, which is largely untested. (The ascending to / descending from stuff in regards to the ASC/DSC axis.) And I disagree entirely in regards to your pronouncement that asteroids-to-asteroids without planetary involvement are meaningless. I feel that the ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS is practically an equation which translates to 'soulmates' or 'soul-family' or 'these who are clearly connected at the level of soul'. Her sense of timelessness -- rather, the principle of no-time -- where nothingness (and everything) exists in simultaneity -- is synergistic with his natal principle of soul debts, and soul contracts. Should she find a name-asteroid that doesn't directly relate to her there, I'd hardly discount their aeternal involvement at the soul-level. Rather, it'd seem there was involvement of all present. Perhaps it's the fact that my CHIRON is also a skipped step for me, and my boyfriend's late Taurus stellium envelopes it completely -- from 0º-2º -- that makes it so paramount for me. If I disregarded that out of hand, I would've missed a HUGE clue denoting what I'm here to actually do with my life -- and how he's involved. He's 'lucky', I suppose, to have JUPITER be his skipped step, but that hardly makes my CHIRON less legitimate. IP: Logged |
LittleWing Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted July 24, 2015 02:50 PM
ok i have this in the 7th house?IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 24, 2015 03:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LittleWing: ok i have this in the 7th house?
Perhaps you're searching for a 'timeless love'; the 'aeternal flame', as they say. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 3621 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2015 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I feel that the ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS is practically an equation which translates to 'soulmates' or 'soul-family' or 'these who are clearly connected at the level of soul'. Her sense of timelessness -- rather, the principle of no-time -- where nothingness (and everything) exists in simultaneity -- is synergistic with his natal principle of soul debts, and soul contracts.
Good to get your viewpoint, Auby! Eloquently stated, as always .Our charts demonstrate a soul contract type of relationship in many different ways. ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS is further evidence of the same. Unfortunately, because soul contracts with soulmates can fulfil a variety of functions, such as learning hard lessons, it doesn't help to resolve the question whether a relationship is worth pursuing. That itself may be the lesson to be learnt! IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 3073 From: Stars Registered: May 2009
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posted July 25, 2015 02:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Bear in mind, vesta, that some of that is new theory, which is largely untested. (The ascending to / descending from stuff in regards to the ASC/DSC axis.)And I disagree entirely in regards to your pronouncement that asteroids-to-asteroids without planetary involvement are meaningless. I feel that the ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS is practically an equation which translates to 'soulmates' or 'soul-family' or 'these who are clearly connected at the level of soul'. Her sense of timelessness -- rather, the principle of no-time -- where nothingness (and everything) exists in simultaneity -- is synergistic with his natal principle of soul debts, and soul contracts. Should she find a name-asteroid that doesn't directly relate to her there, I'd hardly discount their aeternal involvement at the soul-level. Rather, it'd seem there was involvement of all present. Perhaps it's the fact that my CHIRON is also a skipped step for me, and my boyfriend's late Taurus stellium envelopes it completely -- from 0º-2º -- that makes it so paramount for me. If I disregarded that out of hand, I would've missed a HUGE clue denoting what I'm here to actually do with my life -- and how he's involved. He's 'lucky', I suppose, to have JUPITER be his skipped step, but that hardly makes my CHIRON less legitimate.
I have to completely disagree with you on ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS connection as a true soul connection. Because there could be thousands of other people with that connection to her as the movement of the nodes is very slow. I don't know the exact timing but I believe it is a month to move 1 - 2 degree. That would mean at the time of his birth and of course everyone else born within that time frame on this planet would be a past life connection to her. That simply is not going to happen. She needs to have a planet or significator there, a significant point something. But his south node alone will not do it. I have studied the chart of myself and a real honest to God soulmate of mine. Things have to flow together like a book it will be like a mirror of your life when looking at his / her chart.
And you may not agree with my theory but that does not mean it is wrong. I looked at my soulmate chart only to find I am right. Now, I agree more research needs to be done. And we did find it to be true for Me and Ceri and now one more person so who is to say iit is not right for Astro Keen ?
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vesta Knowflake Posts: 3073 From: Stars Registered: May 2009
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posted July 25, 2015 02:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Aubyanne: [b] I feel that the ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS is practically an equation which translates to 'soulmates' or 'soul-family' or 'these who are clearly connected at the level of soul'. Her sense of timelessness -- rather, the principle of no-time -- where nothingness (and everything) exists in simultaneity -- is synergistic with his natal principle of soul debts, and soul contracts.
Good to get your viewpoint, Auby! Eloquently stated, as always .Our charts demonstrate a soul contract type of relationship in many different ways. ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS is further evidence of the same. Unfortunately, because soul contracts with soulmates can fulfil a variety of functions, such as learning hard lessons, it doesn't help to resolve the question whether a relationship is worth pursuing. That itself may be the lesson to be learnt![/B][/QUOTE] ------------------------------------------------------------------- In my honest to God opinion if you have the other connections that show a true soul connection then yes that would work. But, if it is not flowing like a book then it is not a soulmate connection IMO. You should be able to read your soulmate in your own chart. So if you are reading his natal chart and it mirrors your life then Yes you are soulmates. If you suffered depression it will show in his chart moon in 6th with hard angles of something to that nature and it will connect to you. You will see depression in your own chart as well. All kinds of things will show he will be a mirrior reflecting back through the chart.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 25, 2015 07:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by vesta: I have to completely disagree with you on ALMA/SNODE=AETERNITAS connection as a true soul connection. Because there could be thousands of other people with that connection to her as the movement of the nodes is very slow. I don't know the exact timing but I believe it is a month to move 1 - 2 degree. That would mean at the time of his birth and of course everyone else born within that time frame on this planet would be a past life connection to her. That simply is not going to happen. She needs to have a planet or significator there, a significant point something. But his south node alone will not do it. I have studied the chart of myself and a real honest to God soulmate of mine. Things have to flow together like a book it will be like a mirror of your life when looking at his / her chart. And you may not agree with my theory but that does not mean it is wrong. I looked at my soulmate chart only to find I am right. Now, I agree more research needs to be done. And we did find it to be true for Me and Ceri and now one more person so who is to say iit is not right for Astro Keen ?
Ah, but ALMA is speedier. While, yes, the NODES do move slowly by comparison, ALMA will only remain in a degree for a day or two. Likewise for AETERNITAS So, really, his conjunction of SNODE-ALMA to her AETERNITAS is what's significant, as it contains two points which are only going to be in that position for a short enough duration of time to beat the odds. Now, you said you've tested your theory with a chart between a soulmate of yours? What exactly was tested? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 25, 2015 07:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by vesta: You should be able to read your soulmate in your own chart. So if you are reading his natal chart and it mirrors your life then Yes you are soulmates. If you suffered depression it will show in his chart moon in 6th with hard angles of something to that nature and it will connect to you. You will see depression in your own chart as well. All kinds of things will show he will be a mirrior reflecting back through the chart.
For a mere soulmate? That's strange to me. Yes, perhaps some things, but all things? A twin ray, or one's twin flame (should they have one) absolutely. But all soulmates? Why do you feel that all soulmates will have natal mirroring? IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 3073 From: Stars Registered: May 2009
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posted July 25, 2015 07:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: For a mere soulmate? That's strange to me. Yes, perhaps some things, but all things? A twin ray, or one's twin flame (should they have one) absolutely. But all soulmates? Why do you feel that all soulmates will have natal mirroring?
Yes, natal mirroring to soulmates who are not twins. I did test this with my brother soulmate. You can read my life like an open book in his chart. The only thing is for those who don't know of my existence they may never see it because they don't know what to look for. I say this because I am attached to his NN in his 12th house ( secret, hidden, esoteric). And the theory I had about the Nodes ASC/DSC axis did work in his/ brother's chart as well. You just have to be aware ov his destiny to see it. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 25, 2015 06:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by vesta: Yes, natal mirroring to soulmates who are not twins. I did test this with my brother soulmate. You can read my life like an open book in his chart.
Ahh, but see, to me that sounds more akin to a twin ray. It's my closest soul 'siblings', if you will, that tend to be my twin rays. To that end, I very much agree that there is mirroring. However, with soulmates that are not soul-family -- of a very close proximity -- I haven't seen this. IP: Logged |
vesta Knowflake Posts: 3073 From: Stars Registered: May 2009
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posted July 26, 2015 07:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Ahh, but see, to me that sounds more akin to a twin ray. It's my closest soul 'siblings', if you will, that tend to be my twin rays. To that end, I very much agree that there is mirroring. However, with soulmates that are not soul-family -- of a very close proximity -- I haven't seen this.
Ok, I see Yes he is a very close sibling. We are part of same soul family. But I thought all your soulmates were part of your soul family. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 4159 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 27, 2015 12:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by vesta: Ok, I see Yes he is a very close sibling. We are part of same soul family. But I thought all your soulmates were part of your soul family.
Everyone has a different take on it. Some have suggested that our soulmates are from the oversoul to which we are most bound. Or they're karmic partners we've run the races with for a long enough 'time' that they become soulmates -- usually companion soulmates. IP: Logged |