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TheTruthIsTheWay11
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posted July 26, 2015 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

I have Asteroid Magion conjunct my Saturn and my MC. Does anyone know what this could mean?

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posted July 27, 2015 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still trying to uncover the secrets of this one. (I have been attempting to do so for awhile.)

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posted July 31, 2015 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Still trying to uncover the secrets of this one. (I have been attempting to do so for awhile.)

So I probably won't be finding the answer to this then, eh?

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posted July 31, 2015 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything conjunct Saturn is going to be a lifelong quest to understand and search for. Magion is magic, the land of magicians and where beings learned how to practice magic.
Your struggle will be to understand and learn how to use this energy. You have a responsibility to learn how to use this energy correctly!
If you have squares to this it could mean that you will try to use the negative side of magic/energy or potentially you misused magic in a past life...you might find yourself drawn to the darkside and will need to fight the desire to force your will into others through the use of magic. Potentially showing that it is karmic that YOU are forced to discover the truest magic and love energy that is the purest energy and can only be used for good and cannot infringe on others free will.


Conjunct your MC shows this quest will be public, others will see your desire to know this energy, perhaps you will take in a career that helps you understand this energy better.

"Mageon, or Magion: the land of the Gnomes
The Land of the Gnomes, or Magion/Mageon, is the area where Gnomelaguardia exists, where the Magonistic Elves dwell, where the horned elves lye, where the voles rage, where the Hob-Goblins live in Hob, and where many other kindoms, including the Dwarvish empire reside. This world has the largest diversity of intelligent species, and the second largest population of all the worlds. Middle Earth and its rapidly breeding humans hold this title. A large skill in Gnommish culture is Magery. You start out as a student, then become a shaman, then become a teacher, or wise man. From there you may become a magician, mage, wizard, necromacer, fortune-teller, sorcerer, herblorist, or astronomer. Magicians eventually learn to teleport, mages and sorcerers learn how to teleport or shape-shift, wizards learn how to control all four elements, fortune-tellers learn how to see past, present, and future, astronomers learn how to use the stars to change charts, herblorists learn how to cure anything and become plants, and necromacers learn how to travel to worlds of the dead. Magion holds an extremely large variety of practicers of magic, and a large understanding of the workings of the tree. By area, Magion is the largest world."

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posted July 31, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Anything conjunct Saturn is going to be a lifelong quest to understand and search for. Magion is magic, the land of magicians and where beings learned how to practice magic.
Your struggle will be to understand and learn how to use this energy. You have a responsibility to learn how to use this energy correctly!
If you have squares to this it could mean that you will try to use the negative side of magic/energy or potentially you misused magic in a past life...you might find yourself drawn to the darkside and will need to fight the desire to force your will into others through the use of magic. Potentially showing that it is karmic that YOU are forced to discover the truest magic and love energy that is the purest energy and can only be used for good and cannot infringe on others free will.


Conjunct your MC shows this quest will be public, others will see your desire to know this energy, perhaps you will take in a career that helps you understand this energy better.

"Mageon, or Magion: the land of the Gnomes
The Land of the Gnomes, or Magion/Mageon, is the area where Gnomelaguardia exists, where the Magonistic Elves dwell, where the horned elves lye, where the voles rage, where the Hob-Goblins live in Hob, and where many other kindoms, including the Dwarvish empire reside. This world has the largest diversity of intelligent species, and the second largest population of all the worlds. Middle Earth and its rapidly breeding humans hold this title. A large skill in Gnommish culture is Magery. You start out as a student, then become a shaman, then become a teacher, or wise man. From there you may become a magician, mage, wizard, necromacer, fortune-teller, sorcerer, herblorist, or astronomer. Magicians eventually learn to teleport, mages and sorcerers learn how to teleport or shape-shift, wizards learn how to control all four elements, fortune-tellers learn how to see past, present, and future, astronomers learn how to use the stars to change charts, herblorists learn how to cure anything and become plants, and necromacers learn how to travel to worlds of the dead. Magion holds an extremely large variety of practicers of magic, and a large understanding of the workings of the tree. By area, Magion is the largest world."


Wow. Thanks so much!! Thankfully, I don't have any squares. And based on Past Life information, I don't think I had any instances where I misused this area.


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posted July 31, 2015 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsTheWay11:
Wow. Thanks so much!! Thankfully, I don't have any squares. And based on Past Life information, I don't think I had any instances where I misused this area.


All magic is, is energy, learning how to use energy, manipulate energy and feel energy so that you are aware of the unseen things around you. Everything is energy and what you need to learn and focus on is understanding how energy works and how to feel it.
Meditation would be a very good thing to practice! This will help you learn to clear your head and listen to your heart because the heart is the only part of us that clearly reads energy.
Science can teach how energy works, spirituality teaches you how to direct energy. Your heart and emotions have the strongest ability to create energy, read energy and manifest good around you.
Clearing out subconscious fears is essential to changing your energy vibrations and once you start doing that effectively you will be more equipped to work on learning how to manifest things into reality.
This is not a quick process, it takes a lot of time clear your path and learn the ability to manipulate energy for good. Turning negative energy into positive energy means turning fear into love and then directing the higher vibrations you've brought out and allow them to manifest positive things to a certain area.
You cannot try to use this to make others feel a certain way or change their minds...that's not using love energy it's using the ego and the ego is very weak compared to the heart.
Back magic needs all the stones, herbs, chants and whatever other props they use...because black magic/ego is no where near as strong as the higher vibrations of peace and love/our hearts. Certain chants are never good, they are like praying to false gods/demons, so be careful what your saying, know what the words mean and why your saying them. If your goal is to raise energy vibration by using certain vibrational tones that certain words create that's natural and a positive thing. Words of love, peace, appreciation and such have a much higher vibration. Try not to physically speak hate words, it lowers your vibrations.

Of course herbs/stones, energy grids, energy accumalators and anything that comes from earth naturally is positive and will reinforce your strength....that's why black magic practitioners use them also, they need these things to raise the energy vibrations for themselves....that's using the Earths energy against itself, it's harmful to all of us and very bad karma for the ppl doing it, eventually they will have to face up to it and correct it!

Just use love, don't give up even when you think your not accomplishing anything and start reprogramming your subconscious by removing all things that you look at daily...pictures, books, reminders of past hurts..get them out of your sight and replace them with things that fit with what you want your future to be...things you want to manifest in your life.....the places you want to go and things you want to do.
Do this just to start getting a solid subconscious foundation of where your life will take you. Get rid of clutter, it distracts you consciously and subconsciously.

What's in your mind will become your surroundings as you get more in touch with your deeper self, these things will help make your path to learn about how to direct energy/use magic easier.

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posted August 01, 2015 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Magion conjuncts my Mercury by 2 degrees in the 9th and my mercury squares my moon which rules my 8th, Mercury rules my 7th. Magion also sextiles my name.

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posted August 02, 2015 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
My Magion conjuncts my Mercury by 2 degrees in the 9th and my mercury squares my moon which rules my 8th, Mercury rules my 7th. Magion also sextiles my name.


Your mind must have a magical way of thinking!!
You sense energy with your heart but you are also consciously aware of the energy you might even be one that looks around and wonders what was that? The issue is that square to your emotions/moon shows emotionally you don't trust that what you sense is real and you most likely dismiss it as nothing or it stresses you out so you block what you feel.

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posted August 02, 2015 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Magion sits in my Moon, opposed Pallas of all things. As a child I would pulled by the energy I felt and end up having times I woke up from what seemed like a dream in different places and I wouldn't know how I got there. Also I'd have sudden out of body experiences where I'd float way above the earth and be looking down on it from above. Then I'd be sucked back into my body.

I remember feeling like I couldn't stand, I was weak in the legs when I'd come back so I'd sit down wherever I was. Specifically, one time, when I was maybe 4...we(mom and I) were in a department store when it happened. When I came back I sat down on the floor in the isle and started crying so hard...it really scared me at the time, it was such an intense trip that time I'd went higher and it seemed longer than any other time.
I tried to tell my mom I had floated above the earth and into space, I was looking down at the earth from way above...that didn't go over so well! Lol
Also I used to feel this feeling like my skin was blowing away, like it was dust or sand and I'd feel myself slowly disappear...but once the feeling left I'd look down and nothing had changed I was still here.
I wish I could feel those things again today, I'd like to get back to being able to do those things.
When I get seriously upset my skin will start to tingle like it's about to have that feeling again but I never have fully went into having that sensation as an adult.

I have-
Magion virgo@20(12th house)
Moon virgo@19
Child virgo@19-20
Pallas pisces@18
Vesta pisces@20
NN scorp@21

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TheTruthIsTheWay11
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posted August 02, 2015 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
All magic is, is energy, learning how to use energy, manipulate energy and feel energy so that you are aware of the unseen things around you. Everything is energy and what you need to learn and focus on is understanding how energy works and how to feel it.
Meditation would be a very good thing to practice! This will help you learn to clear your head and listen to your heart because the heart is the only part of us that clearly reads energy.
Science can teach how energy works, spirituality teaches you how to direct energy. Your heart and emotions have the strongest ability to create energy, read energy and manifest good around you.
Clearing out subconscious fears is essential to changing your energy vibrations and once you start doing that effectively you will be more equipped to work on learning how to manifest things into reality.
This is not a quick process, it takes a lot of time clear your path and learn the ability to manipulate energy for good. Turning negative energy into positive energy means turning fear into love and then directing the higher vibrations you've brought out and allow them to manifest positive things to a certain area.
You cannot try to use this to make others feel a certain way or change their minds...that's not using love energy it's using the ego and the ego is very weak compared to the heart.
Back magic needs all the stones, herbs, chants and whatever other props they use...because black magic/ego is no where near as strong as the higher vibrations of peace and love/our hearts. Certain chants are never good, they are like praying to false gods/demons, so be careful what your saying, know what the words mean and why your saying them. If your goal is to raise energy vibration by using certain vibrational tones that certain words create that's natural and a positive thing. Words of love, peace, appreciation and such have a much higher vibration. Try not to physically speak hate words, it lowers your vibrations.

Of course herbs/stones, energy grids, energy accumalators and anything that comes from earth naturally is positive and will reinforce your strength....that's why black magic practitioners use them also, they need these things to raise the energy vibrations for themselves....that's using the Earths energy against itself, it's harmful to all of us and very bad karma for the ppl doing it, eventually they will have to face up to it and correct it!

Just use love, don't give up even when you think your not accomplishing anything and start reprogramming your subconscious by removing all things that you look at daily...pictures, books, reminders of past hurts..get them out of your sight and replace them with things that fit with what you want your future to be...things you want to manifest in your life.....the places you want to go and things you want to do.
Do this just to start getting a solid subconscious foundation of where your life will take you. Get rid of clutter, it distracts you consciously and subconsciously.

What's in your mind will become your surroundings as you get more in touch with your deeper self, these things will help make your path to learn about how to direct energy/use magic easier.


It's interesting that I have these aspects because I have had a strong interest in Magick since I left Christianity. My Spirit Guide is known for Magick (although she is known for quite a few things), and apparently my Spirit Animal is the Crow (if you read up on it, it's heavily into Magick). Thanks so much for the interpretation and the advice you have given me!

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posted August 02, 2015 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
My Magion sits in my Moon, opposed Pallas of all things. As a child I would pulled by the energy I felt and end up having times I woke up from what seemed like a dream in different places and I wouldn't know how I got there. Also I'd have sudden out of body experiences where I'd float way above the earth and be looking down on it from above. Then I'd be sucked back into my body.

I remember feeling like I couldn't stand, I was weak in the legs when I'd come back so I'd sit down wherever I was. Specifically, one time, when I was maybe 4...we(mom and I) were in a department store when it happened. When I came back I sat down on the floor in the isle and started crying so hard...it really scared me at the time, it was such an intense trip that time I'd went higher and it seemed longer than any other time.
I tried to tell my mom I had floated above the earth and into space, I was looking down at the earth from way above...that didn't go over so well! Lol
Also I used to feel this feeling like my skin was blowing away, like it was dust or sand and I'd feel myself slowly disappear...but once the feeling left I'd look down and nothing had changed I was still here.
I wish I could feel those things again today, I'd like to get back to being able to do those things.
When I get seriously upset my skin will start to tingle like it's about to have that feeling again but I never have fully went into having that sensation as an adult.

I have-
Magion virgo@20(12th house)
Moon virgo@19
Child virgo@19-20
Pallas pisces@18
Vesta pisces@20
NN scorp@21


Lol my Asteroid Child is in the same degree as yours. It's also conjunct my NN.

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posted August 02, 2015 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsTheWay11:
Lol my Asteroid Child is in the same degree as yours. It's also conjunct my NN.

Wow, that is crazy and cool!
Maybe that explains why I was drawn to your question...our inner children are connected, maybe we are soul siblings? lol! We do connect regarding to your life path.

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posted August 04, 2015 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow, that is crazy and cool!
Maybe that explains why I was drawn to your question...our inner children are connected, maybe we are soul siblings? lol! We do connect regarding to your life path.

I don't know what it would mean. We do connect with at least this part of my life path. Although, at the same time, my Mean Lilith is also there as well lol. You know...it might not be all that crazy. It turns out a Turkish friend of mine and I are connected from a previous lifetime.

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posted August 04, 2015 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsTheWay11:
I don't know what it would mean. We do connect with at least this part of my life path. Although, at the same time, my Mean Lilith is also there as well lol. You know...it might not be all that crazy. It turns out a Turkish friend of mine and I are connected from a previous lifetime.

My Moon is also on your NN...my moon/child conjunct your child/NN.

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