posted September 03, 2015 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks hypatia And I'm happy for you about this!

Good luck with everything going forward!

And thanks, Gabby~

*hug*

I'm so sorry you had bruises as a child...what an awful way to grow up.

Yes, very insightful what you said about living a lie. I hadn't looked at it that way before. Not sure why I'm still so ashamed of it. I guess I feel bad for my parents, or somehow accept that this was a karmic thing I had to live through.

I think your Abundantia-Chiron could mean you'll gain abundance from pain and healing. Well you already give that impression...you seem to have a limitless supply of optimism, encouragement, and BALANCE...all of that is a kind of spiritual abundance. If it translates to material abundance, all the better, right?

Hello to your sun-moon MP from my IC! *waves*

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posted September 06, 2015 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I dont think abundantia opposite jupiter is bad, think about it on one end you have jupiter and in the other you have abundatia!

As for that NN conjunct Poor, well in what sign is it and in what house does it fall? It could be as simple as your soul chose to be poor on this life in order to help you focus on other things that are more valuable or maybe you have a poor mentality that you are meant to overcome in this life and jupiter opposite abundantia should help with that. I would check for transits that square both your Abundantia and Jupiter or that conjunct your Abundantia or Jupiter for abundance coming in but I suppose what kind of abundance comes in will be flavored by the house/sign abundance and jupiter fall in as well as the planet is that is transiting and the sign and house of the transiting planet.

FURTHER ABUNDANTIA IS NOT REALLY ABOUT MONEY. Its more about the law of attraction helping you in your JOURNEY. I have Abundantia in my 3rd near the IC and Uranus hit it the week I moved to Colorado. Every cell of my body wanted to move out of Miami and I longed to live in the mountains, my heart truly desired it so the universe helped me with the resources to get there. Abundantia also opposes my Sun in the 9th near the MC so that move became possible and I had thankfully a job waiting for me there. I also started pursuing my masters degree once I arrived in addition to starting a new job at a new state totally different from anywhere I had ever lived..so that is what an Abundantia transit was like for me but my angles were involved as well as my Sun and Transit Uranus.

I didn't become rich with that transit but it took me where I wanted to be and filled my life with new experiences that expanded my mind and horizons greatly which is what my spirit craved.

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Thank you so much for this and sharing your knowledge. I'm no good at interpreting aspects so I expect you are right about the jupiter opposition.

Hmm I wonder if it's related somehow to some odd sensation I get if ever I have money in excess of my needs (rare) but I feel extremely guilty and as if I over-ate. Literally, feel sick but mainly, admittedly if I spent said money (frequent). Just a vague thought that hasnt slot in place yet. But this seems to fit my nn.

Nn is in libra, 11th. Just recently found out this means I should let go of sole artistic pursuits (which is my ultimate idea of happiness, feels like my pulse) but I'd be even more fed up if I couldn't pursue art but was still poor. Actually, the main reason I don't want to be poor, forefront in my mind, is that I think it will compromise my ability to pursue art. I wonder if this is what it's about somehow.

posted September 21, 2015 08:00 PM            

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Originally posted by florence:
Thank you so much for this and sharing your knowledge. I'm no good at interpreting aspects so I expect you are right about the jupiter opposition.

Hmm I wonder if it's related somehow to some odd sensation I get if ever I have money in excess of my needs (rare) but I feel extremely guilty and as if I over-ate. Literally, feel sick but mainly, admittedly if I spent said money (frequent). Just a vague thought that hasnt slot in place yet. But this seems to fit my nn.

Nn is in libra, 11th. Just recently found out this means I should let go of sole artistic pursuits (which is my ultimate idea of happiness, feels like my pulse) but I'd be even more fed up if I couldn't pursue art but was still poor. Actually, the main reason I don't want to be poor, forefront in my mind, is that I think it will compromise my ability to pursue art. I wonder if this is what it's about somehow.

Anyway, thank you so much for giving me some hope and seeing it differently. I will bear abundant is in mind when looking at transits which I've not done much with asteroids but sounds like it'll be interesting to look at

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posted November 16, 2015 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Hyp....thought you might like this thread!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/003039.html

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posted November 17, 2015 05:50 AM            

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posted November 17, 2015 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Liked your approach Hypatia!

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posted January 04, 2016 11:33 PM              

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It is interesting to me THAT
THE HNN of Midas and Poor are both 27 Pisces, minutes apart.
Midas was poor of heart.

posted October 25, 2017 06:47 PM            

Poor = 0d 52m Aquarius (12th house) conj. my Juno 2d apart.

Abundantia = 0d 15m Capricorn (11th house)

They obviously semi-sextile each other.

I also have Midas = 2d 17m in Taurus (2nd house), but my second house also has Chiron in Aries.

It appears my Midas squares Poor by less than 2d and trines Abundantia by slightly over 2d.

Interesting stuff, still trying to wrap my head around all the asteroids, because holy cow there is a lot of them!

/Edit I have to add this, because it's weird.

1. My Twin Flame has her Poor conjunct my MC by slightly over 2 degrees.

2. My Poor is conjunct her ASC by exactly 2 degrees

3. Her Abundantia is conjunct my ASC by 3 degrees

Does this mean if we are together we are destined to be poor? The weird thing about our meeting, one thing she told me that was out of the blue was - "I don't care about money."

posted October 26, 2017 07:41 PM            

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Not caring about money could attract a lot of it.

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I'd rather attract her back to me first, then worry about money. Though, iQ noted our Jupiter sextile Jupiter "can increase luck tremendously."

posted October 29, 2017 05:53 PM            

My abund is also conjunct my sun.

However, my poor is in the 6th house.

posted October 29, 2017 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
This thread intrigues me....

My abund is also conjunct my sun.

However, my poor is in the 6th house.

I find this interesting, because the 6th house governs health/sickness, among other things. I was diagnosed with various auto immune issues several years ago, so could poor mean poor health? And if so, astrologically speaking, how could one turn that around?

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Lalafortunaea,

posted October 30, 2017 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Mkya00:
Lalafortunaea,

I'd imagine be more vigilant about what you put into your body and how you treat it. I'd imagine the 6th house sign and ruler could play a part.

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Oh, trust me, since then I've become so intolerant to so much that I can almost only have what's good for me. Starting to wonder if mere oxygen is a problem too...

It is VERY interesting that you mention the sign that's in the 6th house, however.

Some time ago I was having severe kidney issues. I won't get into the gross details, but scans showed they were inflamed. For no reason apparently. Everything else by all other accounts, including tests and bloodwork came back fine - normal even and then suddenly the issue MAGICALLY ceased. (I say magically with a hint of sarcasm). And according to my lifestyle, I do nothing that could even damage them in the first place, and so there was no reason for them to flare up. Apparently it was all "imagined".

posted October 30, 2017 10:18 AM            

I have had something similar. I'm an Aquarius Sun conj. Jupiter both conj. Aqaurius ASC - ruler of ankles.

I've had many ankle problems in my life. Recently, I was suppressing my feelings for my Twin Flame and I had a flare up of gout (very painful arthritis type thing). It flared up in my ankle, my good ankle not my bad one. This perplexed my orthopedist.

It eventually went away, and my Twin Flame went on an adventure for more than a month. When she came back and I saw her, I immediately (the day I first saw her) started having twinges of pain in the same ankle again because I was still suppressing my feelings for her.

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posted December 15, 2017 02:18 PM            

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This is interesting, thank you for the thread Hypatia.

I have POOR conjunct CHIRON in 7H square SUN 4H. Trying to think if my finances have in some way been connected to my relationships.

I think CHIRON 7H square SUN 4H shows the suffering I experienced in my relationship with both my father and stepfather in the home, and how it obviously coloured my relationships with men as an adult. POOR relationships indeed. I have been healing for a while now, and my current relationship is of a high standard. I think as the quality of our relationships is so important, this will of course filter into finances via relationships in the workplace, right from the point of application and interview. Since I reached a good level of healing, my career has indeed improved.

I have ABUNDANTIA conjunct URANUS in the 2nd. I tend to attract windfalls, rather large ones from time to time, but it balances out with periods of very low security, so this makes sense. Also, when finances are low, I tend to get more creative, I think this is in keeping with URANUS here, and this leads to more security - if things were easy all the time, how would I ever learn to improve them.

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Interesting, have Poor at 17º Leo in my DC and Abundatia at 15º Capricorn in XII house. Poor trines my Sagittarius Sun in late X house and ruler of DC, maybe this could be and indicator of my poor contracts throughout my career in general and also poor relationships in general specially in job arena. Have never earned a big salary,just once and it was for a year only as I was a replacement of other co-worker.

I don't understand well how Poor works in a chart, but conjunted my DC it could explain that "poverty" in my relationships in general (friends and boyfriends). To be honest, my only one serious relationship was not with a rich guy but he provided me with lots of things and resources, have Pluto in VIII house.

My father lineage was very humble, when he passed, I did not heritated anything, but he had very good jobs and I had all that I wanted and he provided me.

How did you heal yourself to overcome your situation?, I'm interested. I think I've always have had illusions about people in my life (Sun as ruler of DC conjunct Neptune) and this "poverty" is a reality check.

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Nn is in libra, 11th. Just recently found out this means I should let go of sole artistic pursuits (which is my ultimate idea of happiness, feels like my pulse) but I'd be even more fed up if I couldn't pursue art but was still poor. Actually, the main reason I don't want to be poor, forefront in my mind, is that I think it will compromise my ability to pursue art. I wonder if this is what it's about somehow.

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May I ask why you would think that of NN in Libra in 11th? I think with that placement, you should continue artistic pursuits but perhaps in a more group-centered manner. Perhaps something to do with the public, or social media, or even on TV or talk shows or something? Just some part of life where you can place art into the public . Idk if you have something else conjunct your NN that is making you think you should throw it away but I assure you that that simply isn't enough to just say it's not going to work out...I haven't read all of your comments yet; are you saying bc POOR is conjunct NN you cannot pursue these things? Sorry, but don't believe that. Asteroids are helpful but they are not the end-all for decisions. If your North Node is in Libra in the 11th then find your way to make that placement work; the North Node is more powerful than an asteroid.

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Now I know why I'm Poor. 😥
My Poor 13227 is in 2nd house Cancer at 8° and 151 in Sag 0° conjunct with my Uranus/7th Cusp.
http://imgur.com/Tgw6POI
2nd house for my earned my and 7th house partners/spouse.
So I earn nothing and my spouse ?
Please someone help here.

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Where is your Abundantia? I have it opposing my 10th house ruler, the Sun, and am lucky at finding work and career wise. It falls in my 5th house which can mean many romances or many children, in my case many romances. I can use the law of attraction to attract romances or help me find jobs.

Focus on Abundatia instead of Poor

My partner has Poor conjunct Cupido in the 11th with Abundantia conjunct his IC. He comes from a rich family although he is poor. He never has enough money to go after his hopes and dreams. Cupido in the 11th means that going after his hopes and dreams is what makes him feel alive but since it conjuncts exact POOR he always feels he does not have the needed financial resources to pursue his passions. But if we focus on the positive he comes from a wealthy family and was spoiled as a child although his family failed him in giving him what he truly needed, an abundance of love.

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Where is your Abundantia?

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