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janoe
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posted October 21, 2015 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for janoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello dears,

this one has been bugging me for a while....maybe you have some thoughts on this.

In my birth chart, many of the important love asteroids and especially some representing "male" mythological entities conjunct important points in my chart.

Eros conjunct IC (just 4 min. orb)
Siva conjunct DC (12 min. orb)
Osiris conjunct MC (1,5 deg. orb)
Zeus conjunct Jupiter (3 deg. orb)
Valentine conjunct Neptune in 7th house (20 min. orb)

Destinn is in pretty tight conjunction with my Saturn.... I also have neptune conjunct north node in 7th house - with Karma in opposition.

Ever since I learned about astrology, I figured that my 7th house constellation gives a pretty accurate description of my love life. I tend to fall in love with men I can't have for various reasons. Very often, the feelings I had were actually returned, but we somehow didn't "make" it anyway, whether it was due to an existing relationship on his behalf or other reasons... then there were men who were crazy for me, but I could never get myself to even try with them... I guess the moon conjunct saturn in Cancer of all places doesn't make it easier.

So - to cut a long story short I've basically been single all my life. I'm not exactly a wallflower and I can't say that I've been suffering from the situation. People regard me as this very busy career woman who would never settle down - yet again, in recent years I've had the increased desire to do just that. Not necessarily to quit my job and be a stay at home mom and housewife - but definetely to have a family and share a life with someone. I don't believe in forcing these things but I'm getting more and more desperate about it.

I haven't been looking into asteroids for very long and I'm not sure about the invidual meanings of them. But the close conjunctions of especially Eros, Siva and Osiris to my axis points struck me as odd. It could be my wishful thinking but they seem to reflect my deep down feeling that somewhere out there is THE man for me. Just the one and that maybe, one day, I might find him. Or what would you say?

Transit Saturn just entered my 7th house and will be conjunct my north node in a couple of weeks. So...regarding my increasing desire to finally answer to my north node in 7th house...do you think this could be the time?

Please be gentle :-)

I was born 26th of Jan 1975 at 11.40 am in Kiel, Germany - here's my chart:
http://headquartermedia.de/files/pics/chart.png

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janoe
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posted October 25, 2015 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for janoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't know why I keep trying...I've been here for years and have never ever gotten a reply to any thread I started. :-(

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posted October 25, 2015 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Seimei
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posted October 31, 2015 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by janoe:
I really don't know why I keep trying...I've been here for years and have never ever gotten a reply to any thread I started. :-(

I know how you feel,janoe.I have decided it is best to not care if I get a response.
Try using the planets to tell when to post,Maybe Jupiter at EA or vertex and something aspecting your moon or descendant.
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Seimei
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posted November 01, 2015 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Just some thoughts. I ran the chart myself so I could also look at other asteroids. takes time tho


Eros at IC,and in cancer, you like staying at home? HARD to meet someone if you go to work and then just stay home. Worse if you work at home. Osiris opposing that maybe your deeper roots or standards you have that are HIGH,
Again Neptune and Valentine,,7h, who can live up to that dream guy and with NNode you really want that deep spiritual love connection , like there is only one person who is your other half.
I never know what to do with Siva..

Just a fast glance at now, t Jupiter is op your natal jup so some pulling is going on and your need to expand/grow implies a relationship is yearned for, for sure.
Your Solar return2016(w precession) shows Libra rising.And again a reflection of what you've expressed sp Jup sextile natal asc.
We have sp sun and Jupiter 10+ apart and nothing personal in the 5th, Libra on the 5th,Venus in Aries at the 11th.
There maybe be someone already, some one from your work environment,. or someone who has just filled a physical need(spMars 8th hse) In other words someone you just don't know well enough to see it.
Or someone you are to meet yet. In the sp still, Venus is moving to exact sextile to Mercury/Vesta over the next year.( c o m m u n i c a t i o n of interest)
Perhaps you feel inhibited right now as sp Saturn is slamming your sp asc by standard
progression movement.
Just looked at progressed MC of day method and your progressed ASC IS 3AQ43 AND MARS 3AQ44, WHO would have thought that.
also just realized t. Venus and MARS conjunct is opp to your sp Sun/Jup midpoint.
Very intense feelings for a couple of days.
Also your sp Venus/Uranus is degree of natal MC,, so you WOULD have this urge perhaps to fall fast in love, but Saturn says NO, you know better/ holds u back.
Saturn say no because it rules sign on MC, because that degree is Saturn's node and because sp Saturn is on ascendant.
Sp Mars nearly to radix Sun, maybe he is right there, and with Venus in Aries you are really wanting that to be the case.
Your maybe much more mature in some ways
than men in your circle, and I mean viewpoint
not age,so maybe broaden it.
In Helio radix you have Juno in tight opposition to Uranus/Cupido(disrupted attempts to commit) and your sp Geocentric Juno is within 3 degrees(applying) of the Heliocentric Juno so perhaps what you seek is
lying in wait for you STILL.

Last but not least and don't answer this question. Have your experiences with men( we are mostly pigs you know) left you with such a strong negative that prevents you from getting deep with someone? If so, Don't let that stop you, some guys just wear a pig costume because they too are sacred.

Best of Luck


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Seimei
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posted November 01, 2015 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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janoe
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posted November 01, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for janoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow thanks, that was really insightful!
You use some methods that I'm not familiar with.... what method do you use for the solar return for instance? Because when I run it on my astro profile, I get an Aries ascendant for 2016.
For 2015 I had a curious constellation in the solar return: The srtn ascendant in Sag was conjunct my natal north node, the srtn node was conjunct my srtn MC. So I figured this would become a very important year in terms of stepping forward on my karmic path both professionally and emotionally. Professionally, this has been very true so far. Relationship-wise, not so much....

In secondary progression, I'm approaching the Sun conjunct Jupiter. I've read some experiences of people, most of them sounded great like that was the greatest time of their lives. However, Jupiter is the ruler of my 8th and in checking other charts I found that my mum had this when my father died...so I'm dreading it a little bit. Well, my father's already dead but my two older brothers are still there and natal Jupiter trines my Moon/Saturn in 3rd house.

As for your questions: I don't actually think that men are pigs. Well of course there's some...but then again there's loads who are not. I have been dissapointed in the past, but probably no more than everyone else. I'm sure I dissapointed plenty of men too! I just tend to never hold out very long in relationships. You're right, so far noone has been able to live up to that Neptune/node in 7th dream image. But there isn't really much I can do about it. If it's in me, it's in me. Also...I'm actually quite good on my own. I have a first house south node after all and also that Moon/Saturn conjunction. It's not that I don't get lonely, it's just that I don't get lonely enough to want to put up with something I'm not happy with just in order to not be alone. I see so many unhappy couples around me and I can never understand why they're even bothered...

However.... I come from parents who never really lived up to their north node and I'm quite determined to not repeat that mistake as I have seen what it can do. I just haven't figured out how to do that yet....

Again, thanks for your insight!

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Seimei
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posted November 01, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You use some methods that I'm not familiar with.... what method do you use for the solar return for instance? Because when I run it on my astro profile, I get an Aries ascendant for 2016.
Yes, the Libra asc SR,is a precessed return, roughly 51.66 seconds per year added to position of Sun. It is about the same distance the Galactic center has traveled since you were born.
I did not really spend any time looking at that chart not being sure if you live where you were born,as location is important in returns.
You are quite lucky to have Sun hit radix
Jupiter. I will not likely live to be 134,lol. My sp sun 1*5' of my radix Neptune,,
just looking to break on thru to the other side, different reality

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Soltze
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posted November 01, 2015 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to add, please pay attention to transits to your Natal Mars. It's the ancient ruler of the 7th.

I see that Mars (ruler) is square Pluto (co-ruler) This is interesting.

You're afraid to open up. It's the Moon/Saturn square Pluto. I have aspects involving these three planets too and I'm aware it's difficult and what it does. You don't communicate your feelings, do you? It's in your 3rd house...Moon/Sat

Use the transits. You can fix it with your free will and initiative

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janoe
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posted November 03, 2015 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for janoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Seimei
well, we will see about being lucky - like I said, I'm a little suspicious with Jupiter... I know all is well with Jupiter in the end, but sometimes it makes me go through hell first to emerge a little bit more grown-up and cleverer on the other side. And that's in spite of the fact that it is placed in friendly Pisces and the fantastic 11th house and receives marvellous trines from Moon and Saturn.
So I'm anticipating what will happen - incidentally though, my progressed Moon just crossed the MC and will be conjunct my Aquarian sun around the same time the progressed Sun on Jupiter is exact. So it could bring good things after all with results about a year from now. We will see. I am in an important phase regarding my new business, so....

@Soltze
Yes you're right - I often feel like my Moon/Saturn, but also my Pluto and Mars mess up a chart (and a life, lol) which would otherwise be fantastic and full of potential! It's gonna be a while until there's some important transits to Mars... But something I find quite interesting is that progressed Mars in aspect coincides with very important times of my professional development, rather than emotional. Alongside the constellation stated above, my progressed Mar is now also moving towards a conjunction with the Sun. So overall, I think I'm in for quite a ride in the next five years or so because simultanously, transit Pluto is opposing my Saturn/Moon. I have definetely felt the Pluto/Saturn in the past two years, my new business and the way it came about is picture book Pluto/Saturn.

...and if nothing happens, I'll just bury astrology, lol :-D

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Soltze
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posted November 03, 2015 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL...I'm getting out, scarred from a Pluto conj Saturn transit. I get you

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Seimei
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posted November 03, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

...and if nothing happens, I'll just bury astrology, lol :-D[/B][/QUOTE]

Make what happens,, don't wait for what happens

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