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hypatia238
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posted December 15, 2015 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melancholia means deep sadness or gloom; melancholy.

Curious to see if those of you who suffer from depression or mood swings have it somewhere prominent in your chart.

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hypatia238
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posted December 15, 2015 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulcinea in Sag @22d34
AC in Sag @23d39
Discovery in Sag @23d07
Morpheus in Sag @23d25
Hebe in Sag @24d16
Melancholia in Sag @24d17

I have had one episode of prolonged depression in my life which definitely build up my resilience on the positive note and mood swings have been an ongoing thing although my mood swings are normally connected to my menstrual cycle.

Venus rules female hormones and it inconjuncts my moon and trines my AC-Melancholia.

Also, my Melancholia parallels my Jupiter and Destinn under 1 orb. Jupiter is my chart ruler.

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posted December 15, 2015 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr. Aqua who is bipolar and has suffered from depression his whole life has:

Melancholia parallel exact his Mercury @12d47S. Further his Dejanira is @12d53S so he actually has Melancholia parallel his mercury and Dejanira.

Declination stellium @12dS of:
Melancholia-Mercury-Dejanira.

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hypatia238
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posted December 15, 2015 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A client I had a while ago who is bipolar has Melancholia semisextile exact his northnode-moon and inconjunct his Southnode-venus. He has has dejanira conjunct his mercury.

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posted December 15, 2015 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseastar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It only aspects one planet in my chart, and that's conjunct Jupiter.

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posted December 15, 2015 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I was just over on Interpersonal Astrology reading the thread about Psyche and wounds. Someone was talking about a Psyche/Chiron conjunction and how that can indicate psychological trauma.

Psyche: Cancer 27'24
Chiron: Cancer 28'57

& Moon: Leo 0'54

Then I came over to this forum and saw this topic and I was like, wow, how crazy would that be if this asteroid were conjunct all that and... Sure enough.

Melancholia: Cancer 28'54

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posted December 15, 2015 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melancholia trine Moon (exact)
Melancholia sextile Mercury (2)
Melancholia sextile Uranus(2)
Melancholia conjunct Pluto (Exact)
Melancholia trine MC (1)

I can personally say I've suffered with depression for many years. I'm curious though, how would any of you interpret Melancholia conjunct Pluto?

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posted December 15, 2015 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sunflower-moon:
Wow, I was just over on Interpersonal Astrology reading the thread about Psyche and wounds. Someone was talking about a Psyche/Chiron conjunction and how that can indicate psychological trauma.

Psyche: Cancer 27'24
Chiron: Cancer 28'57

& Moon: Leo 0'54

Then I came over to this forum and saw this topic and I was like, wow, how crazy would that be if this asteroid were conjunct all that and... Sure enough.

Melancholia: Cancer 28'54


Our moons are conjunct! How cool

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posted December 15, 2015 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread, H. Thanks

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posted December 15, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Melancholia trine Moon (exact)
Melancholia sextile Mercury (2)
Melancholia sextile Uranus(2)
Melancholia conjunct Pluto (Exact)
Melancholia trine MC (1)

I can personally say I've suffered with depression for many years. I'm curious though, how would any of you interpret Melancholia conjunct Pluto?




Perhaps it could mean deep mourning over the death or loss of someone you were very attached to.

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posted December 15, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sunflower-moon:
Wow, I was just over on Interpersonal Astrology reading the thread about Psyche and wounds. Someone was talking about a Psyche/Chiron conjunction and how that can indicate psychological trauma.

Psyche: Cancer 27'24
Chiron: Cancer 28'57

& Moon: Leo 0'54

Then I came over to this forum and saw this topic and I was like, wow, how crazy would that be if this asteroid were conjunct all that and... Sure enough.

Melancholia: Cancer 28'54


Wow. Our instincts are great, that happens to me a lot too.

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posted December 15, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Our moons are conjunct! How cool

My Atropos is conjuncting both of your moons which sextile my sun.

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Delilah423
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posted December 15, 2015 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha!

My Melancholia is exactly conjunct Neptune at 16 Lib. Sextile Chiron at 16 Sag; trine Psyche at 16 Gem.

The shrinks always say I'm not clinically depressed, and I always manage to function, but no one would ever call me perky. It all balances out I suppose; the Libra (and Neptune rose colored glasses?) influence perhaps?

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posted December 15, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melancholia opposite Pluto 0.46 + square the Vertex axis 0.34. Cute grand cross, isn't it? Pluto is my 3rd house ruler.

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posted December 15, 2015 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should feel so fortunate I suppose having no planets in natal aspects my Melancholia near cusp of 8th in Taurus.

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Having just watched the trailer I am profoundly sad for Kiefer Sutherland and Kirsten Dunst.

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posted December 16, 2015 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
My Atropos is conjuncting both of your moons which sextile my sun.

Hmm, doesn't Atropos generally have a negative connotation with it in hard aspects, like conclusion, death or sudden endings? I know in soft aspects it can mean Karmic relationships and soulmates. I don't know much about it but I would love to learn! As for my Melancholia conjunct Pluto, I haven't lost anyone close to me but my parent's health is very fragile and I'm not planning on them living for much longer so that might be a very interesting aspect for me to look into coping with.

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posted December 16, 2015 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Perhaps it could mean deep mourning over the death or loss of someone you were very attached to.

I have Melancholia sextile ASC.

My Melancholia has been conjunct Pluto in progressions for a long time. I guess I've always been missing people. It's interesting to see where it was transiting when I lost loved ones.

But I have not suffered much with depression. I think it's because I am careful to eat healthy and use relaxation techniques, plus I rely on astrology.

Not the end of the world, just another transit...

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posted December 17, 2015 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I have Melancholia sextile ASC.

My Melancholia has been conjunct Pluto in progressions for a long time. I guess I've always been missing people. It's interesting to see where it was transiting when I lost loved ones.

But I have not suffered much with depression. I think it's because I am careful to eat healthy and use relaxation techniques, plus I rely on astrology.

Not the end of the world, just another transit...


The one time I suffered from depression it was after my ex and I broke up and I am not surprised I got depressed after losing someone I had a bond like that at all, that is the price of coming across a connection like that.

BTW depression does not mean that you are weak and think that its the end of the world, it just means you are human and have an immense capacity to feel deeply. Further bc I have suffered from depression is why I am as strong as I am today and its my incredable ability to pick myself back up after every fall I have had and never give up that defines me.

In a nutshell, depression I feel is often natural and a healthy response and can be an immense opportunity for growth.

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posted December 17, 2015 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see depression as weak.

I don't know if we have the same idea of what depression entails.

I had a bad case of baby blues after my one son was born. I suspect that it was clinical depression. Nothing interested me, nothing could lift my mood. I couldn't even pretend. Life was flat. I have referred to it before as "the place where no comfort is."

It wasn't connected to what was happening in my life, aside from sleep deprivation. So I see it as biochemical. Possibly exacerbated by my Saturn Return, and my pr ASC changing signs.

I have experienced a lot of sadness and hardship...but not a lot of that flat and desolate feeling that I consider depression. And I have assumed that there's a biochemical reason for that.

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posted December 18, 2015 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't see depression as weak.

I don't know if we have the same idea of what depression entails.

I had a bad case of baby blues after my one son was born. I suspect that it was clinical depression. Nothing interested me, nothing could lift my mood. I couldn't even pretend. Life was flat. I have referred to it before as "the place where no comfort is."

It wasn't connected to what was happening in my life, aside from sleep deprivation. So I see it as biochemical. Possibly exacerbated by my Saturn Return, and my pr ASC changing signs.

I have experienced a lot of sadness and hardship...but not a lot of that flat and desolate feeling that I consider depression. And I have assumed that there's a biochemical reason for that.


Faith, I'm so sorry you experienced postpartum depression. That can be one of the hardest things to deal with.

As for my Melancholia conjunct my Pluto I believe that it also relates to the trauma and my experience with trying to heal and regenerate from it's destruction. I become very melancholy thinking about it, especially when I try to heal.

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posted December 18, 2015 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Mergoatsun. You're sweet...sorry you have also dealt with trauma, and at a young age...it shapes us.

I think a concern with Capricorns is that we try and muscle our way through every heartache, and we can just get numb or suffer from energy blockages if we don't figure out how to process our pain. I still don't really know how to release old anger...but I like to think it can be done physically, with martial arts, yoga, or even chopping firewood.

True, postpartum depression can be serious. Thanks for seeing that. You're cool.

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