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MilaBirkin
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posted December 25, 2015 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the 5th house has to do with that?

I ask this because I have Chiron in 5th house and I stopped playing when I was 8 years old and I have always been attracted to acting, singing, drawing, painting and dance. But since I stopped playing, I started to pay more attention to dance, to sing and write creatively.

I love art. I love music and acting. And when I was 17 I realized that the theater makes me feel SO good, like theater can heal me. When I'm acting I can heal my pain.

I was thinking about this and maybe it's a new way to see Chiron in 5th house? Because I only read "pain, pain and more pain" and inhibition about creativity.

I feel as if I had never been a kid and a teenager but when I act and when I am creative I can play and feel good about myself.

I wanted to share this with you. I think this is interesting.

Oh and Merry Christmas! I was about to go to lunch but I come back for this . I almost forget.

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posted December 25, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, and people differ, Chiron pain stays like a meatball made too dense. It kind of sits there and gives you some level of a stomach ache.

I have Chiron in the 4th and I, always, feel the pain of my mother, at some level.

Being creative was one of my outlets, so I did not have pain in that, but pain seems to be pain.

I do think hard aspects to Chiron make pain worse.

Stick up your chart with aspect lines to Chiron, if you want.

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posted December 25, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mila,

Since Chiron is "the wounded healer," not merely "pain," it makes absolute sense that you might turn a 5th house Chiron into one or more creative arts that can heal not only you, but perhaps others.

Even though the wound itself will never go away, we can transcend it. That is the message of Chiron.

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posted December 25, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We can heal, as much as possible, by helping to heal others through our own wounds. I do that and never really set out to. It just happened lol


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posted December 25, 2015 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by one house system I have 28aq43 on 5th
by another it is 0pi
I have Chiron 3*pi43,
so I hear ya.
In my Pisces(dreaming-imagination) 5th(SELF-EXPRESSION)house Chiron(solving) childhood one thing I was doing was making drawings(age7- 8)(1968) of all the things that would be done with computers.
I really have no idea what that has to do with
wounding/healing and Chiron

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posted December 26, 2015 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In my opinion, and people differ, Chiron pain stays like a meatball made too dense. It kind of sits there and gives you some level of a stomach ache.

I have Chiron in the 4th and I, always, feel the pain of my mother, at some level.

Being creative was one of my outlets, so I did not have pain in that, but pain seems to be pain.

I do think hard aspects to Chiron make pain worse.

Stick up your chart with aspect lines to Chiron, if you want.


Thanks for your answer .
I understand what you wrote. I'm sorry for that pain.

That reminded me of the relationship I have with my mom. It's a good relationship but we fight a lot sometimes ( and then we started laughing like crazy ).
She is Cancer sun/ascendant and Aries moon. I have moon in Cancer conj her sun and Mars in 4th house. I think it makes sense. We also have the same sign in Mars and almost the same degrees... so Mars conj Mars.

Chiron in Virgo R opposite sun and trine Neptune.

I'm not sure if the others aspects count:

Chiron sextile moon. Chiron square Jupiter. Chiron opposite Saturn. Chiron trine Uranus.

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posted December 26, 2015 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Mila,

Since Chiron is "the wounded healer," not merely "pain," it makes absolute sense that you might turn a 5th house Chiron into one or more creative arts that can heal not only you, but perhaps others.

Even though the wound itself will never go away, we can transcend it. That is the message of Chiron.


Thanks for your answer .

It really helped and I appreciate it . Very interesting.

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posted December 26, 2015 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
We can heal, as much as possible, by helping to heal others through our own wounds. I do that and never really set out to. It just happened lol


That's so nice Ami. I agree .

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posted December 26, 2015 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
by one house system I have 28aq43 on 5th
by another it is 0pi
I have Chiron 3*pi43,
so I hear ya.
In my Pisces(dreaming-imagination) 5th(SELF-EXPRESSION)house Chiron(solving) childhood one thing I was doing was making drawings(age7- 8)(1968) of all the things that would be done with computers.
I really have no idea what that has to do with
wounding/healing and Chiron


Thanks for your answer Seimei .
I was missing you.

I think it's very interesting what you wrote, your experience .

We have the same! But opposite signs!

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posted December 27, 2015 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Stick up your chart with aspect lines to Chiron, if you want.


Ami Anne I uploaded that for you.

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posted December 27, 2015 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not showing up, Mila.

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posted December 27, 2015 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is not showing up, Mila.


Must one of those invisible charts, but know I think she misunderstood how/what Ami,, help
he understand. Or must I do everything? lol

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posted December 27, 2015 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is not showing up, Mila.


Up, up. I didn't post the entire chart .

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posted December 27, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
Must one of those invisible charts, but know I think she misunderstood how/what Ami,, help
he understand. Or must I do everything? lol


It's not invisible, is small .

What do you mean with all that?

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posted December 27, 2015 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like I'm talking alone .

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posted December 27, 2015 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
It's not invisible, is small .

What do you mean with all that?


What Ami Anne wanted was for You to put up
your chart as you have before, but select show aspects lines in the chart. Remember extended chart selection has many choices. I am not starring at them at the moment.However that is what she meant, I am sure and I also know you can do it.
She(ami) unaware of you small experience at ASTRO.COM AND that English is not your 1rst language, is my guess.
no worries I am sure

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posted December 27, 2015 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
What Ami Anne wanted was for You to put up
your chart as you have before, but select show aspects lines in the chart. Remember extended chart selection has many choices. I am not starring at them at the moment.However that is what she meant, I am sure and I also know you can do it.
She(ami) unaware of you small experience at ASTRO.COM AND that English is not your 1rst language, is my guess.
no worries I am sure


Ok .

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posted December 27, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I was thinking of the full chart, Mila dear

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posted December 28, 2015 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, I was thinking of the full chart, Mila dear


I guess she be out partying,

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posted December 28, 2015 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mila, my buddy, must be out having fun. We will await her return!

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posted December 29, 2015 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
I guess she be out partying,


quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mila, my buddy, must be out having fun. We will await her return!


Lol. Thanks for waiting! . Here I am. You don't have to miss me anymore .

It's useless... what I have published...? :

quote:
Originally posted by MilaBirkin:

Chiron in Virgo R opposite sun and trine Neptune.

I'm not sure if the others aspects count:

Chiron sextile moon. Chiron square Jupiter. Chiron opposite Saturn. Chiron trine Uranus.


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posted December 29, 2015 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just stick in the orbs next to each aspect, Mila

A list would be good like

Chiron square the Moon( 2 degrees)

Chiron trine the Sun( 1 degree)


etc

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posted December 29, 2015 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just stick in the orbs next to each aspect, Mila

A list would be good like

Chiron square the Moon( 2 degrees)

Chiron trine the Sun( 1 degree)


etc


Well, that catches my attention, I have a very aspected Chiron but only Sun opposite Chiron 2 degrees, Chiron trine Neptune 2 degrees.
And the others: Chiron sextile moon 3 degrees, Chiron square Jupiter 9 degrees, Chiron opposite Saturn 8 degrees, Chiron trine Uranus 6 degrees.

I'm sorry if that's not what you ask for!

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posted December 29, 2015 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
allow me


Mila saves ,,,,,, Seimei removes ?

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posted December 29, 2015 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is so fuzzy that it is making me car sick, S

Thanks anyway but just write down your aspects with orbs, Mila.

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