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roseelima16
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posted February 09, 2016 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I watched that video about asteroids cause it's not easy to find reliable information about them over the internet. I was so blown away with the information found in the charts that were described that I thought I should share the link here. It's worth it to check it out. http://youtu.be/6JKLcnqrGtA

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posted February 10, 2016 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
I watched that video about asteroids cause it's not easy to find reliable information about them over the internet. I was so blown away with the information found in the charts that were described that I thought I should share the link here. It's worth it to check it out. http://youtu.be/6JKLcnqrGtA

when I get time I WILL WATCH.

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posted February 11, 2016 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
I watched that video about asteroids cause it's not easy to find reliable information about them over the internet. I was so blown away with the information found in the charts that were described that I thought I should share the link here. It's worth it to check it out. http://youtu.be/6JKLcnqrGtA

Thanks Roseelima
I found and watched this about a year ago-- wonderful!!

(topic) Asteroids: Windows into Fate and Destiny (Demetra George, Astrology University) [1:11:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JKLcnqrGtA

She also wrote a book--- one of my favorites!

Demetra George & Douglas Bloch Asteroid Goddesses: The Mythology, Psychology and Astrology of the Re-emerging Feminine.
Ibis Press
c Demetra George 1986, 2003 www.demetrageorge.com

-------- a couple of notes --------
Daimon.. in greek philosophy ... an anonymous driving force that compels to certain actions. "fate"

638 Moira - represents a Lot (in life), or the allotted portion in life. Soul chooses its life... then
97 Klotho - measures the life
120 Lachesis - ratifies the choice (makes it legal)
273 Atropos - makes the choice permanent

^ Their decree, not even Zeus could override.

Plato's Republic, last chapter-- The Myth of Er. Er was a person on edge of cosmos. Souls were all lined up to choose their lives. There was a Spindle located on the lap of Necessity. 7 orbits. Sirens assigned to each. Then seats for the three fates, singing past present and the future.

Each souls takes a Lot. They are called to look over the choice of lives available. They choose. Next to each life is attached a daemon (who make sure that that life happened exactly as planned). Daemon and lot comes and attaches choice to soul... which it then takes to the fates:
Lachesis ratifies the choice. Atropos makes it irreversible. (The daemon makes sure it happens as planned.)

We have freewill, but once we've chosen our life, it is doomed to unravel as it was wrapped onto the Spindle...

(music) Tapestry (Carole King, lyrics) [3:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-lGU5TTKc


The points and planets asteroids are attached to help give it meaning.

Important asteroids--
Sun Moon cj and opps
Asc, MC, Ruler of the Ascendant
Name asteroids

If theme emerges?... then look at the family of those asteroids, to see the larger patterns.

(daemon = Part of Spirit/Soul(Sun), located across from Part of Fortune. James Hillman, The Soul's Code, = a benevolent, seemingly divine guiding force or inspiration.)

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posted February 11, 2016 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll watch this later ~ thanks for posting roseelima.

Thanks for the information, mirage!

I was just researching Atropos in death charts a few days ago. Found some amazing things, like JFK's assassination chart has:

Tr Atropos 20 Aqua = tr ASC 19 Aqua

^^ Trine his 20 Libra ASC.

JFK has Atropos on his MC natally:
MC 23 Cancer = Atropos 22 Cancer

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I have:

7.49 Aqua MOIRA (conjunct DSC)
0.47 Aries KLOTHO (conjunct Vesta)
17.18 Leo Rx LACHESIS (apex of yod with sun & moon)
1.30 Gemini ATROPOS (conjunct Ceres)

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posted February 11, 2016 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Current transit, as I write:

Tr moon 2 Aries
Tr Atropos 3 Aries

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posted February 11, 2016 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith!... You know, psychologically, it IS possible to scare your OWN self "to death" watching asteroid transits. I've been watching asteroids for past 5 years. It's possible to see 'anything' there. Whatever you 'concentrate' on, can manifest...

And I know that you know my placements, too ~~~ so haha (thanks for the friendly heads up? much appreciated).

AND....

She still LIVES!!!!!!!!

(Humor)---
According to D.George, we can 'talk' to those asteroids that give us trouble? ...

So, I want you to know that the other day, ~~ well, I took mine to Church H9 and the Tempel H3. They ALL got 'saved'--- o yesss ma'am! I'm here to tell you today that they be sprinkled-dunked, washed in the Blood, anointed with Oil, sanctified HOLY '**rolling-rocks**' in space now, okay???!

Had a slug of 17896 **Beer** on my Moon!

{{pssst! ~~I think it scared the Hel out of 'em! LMAO }}

(Have a good weekend...)

ETA: Working on other people's charts always provides us with an opportunity to 'add and send GOOD vibrations' towards them.... The chart doesn't 'do' it to them. It's the energy of the person holding the privilege of seeing the chart that can interfere. GOD is stronger than the Chart-suggestions. {{Angel Heart}}

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posted February 12, 2016 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Thanks Roseelima
I found and watched this about a year ago-- wonderful!!

(topic) Asteroids: Windows into Fate and Destiny (Demetra George, Astrology University) [1:11:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JKLcnqrGtA

She also wrote a book--- one of my favorites!

Demetra George & Douglas Bloch [b]Asteroid Goddesses: The Mythology, Psychology and Astrology of the Re-emerging Feminine.
Ibis Press
c Demetra George 1986, 2003 www.demetrageorge.com

-------- a couple of notes --------
Daimon.. in greek philosophy ... an anonymous driving force that compels to certain actions. "fate"

638 Moira - represents a Lot (in life), or the allotted portion in life. Soul chooses its life... then
97 Klotho - measures the life
120 Lachesis - ratifies the choice (makes it legal)
273 Atropos - makes the choice permanent

^ Their decree, not even Zeus could override.

Plato's Republic, last chapter-- The Myth of Er. Er was a person on edge of cosmos. Souls were all lined up to choose their lives. There was a Spindle located on the lap of Necessity. 7 orbits. Sirens assigned to each. Then seats for the three fates, singing past present and the future.

Each souls takes a Lot. They are called to look over the choice of lives available. They choose. Next to each life is attached a daemon (who make sure that that life happened exactly as planned). Daemon and lot comes and attaches choice to soul... which it then takes to the fates:
Lachesis ratifies the choice. Atropos makes it irreversible. (The daemon makes sure it happens as planned.)

We have freewill, but once we've chosen our life, it is doomed to unravel as it was wrapped onto the Spindle...

(music) Tapestry (Carole King, lyrics) [3:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-lGU5TTKc


The points and planets asteroids are attached to help give it meaning.

Important asteroids--
Sun Moon cj and opps
Asc, MC, Ruler of the Ascendant
Name asteroids

If theme emerges?... then look at the family of those asteroids, to see the larger patterns.

(daemon = Part of Spirit/Soul(Sun), located across from Part of Fortune. James Hillman, The Soul's Code, = a benevolent, seemingly divine guiding force or inspiration.)[/B]


Yep, I reasearched about Demetra over the internet. I've seen she gives courses as well. All that is very interesting. I tried to use that technique she presented in the lecture involving the asteroids and guess what? The asteroid named like my ex husband showed up in my 7th house conjunct the DC and his last name in my 5th. In fact, it was a love marriage from my part but it seems to me it wasn't for him.

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posted February 12, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I know what you mean, Roseelima... sorry. {{ }}

The name asteroids are SURREAL super-freaky, aren't they?

Mine just blow me away... That's what turned me into a kind of Believer.

haha, song day!!--- for Asteroids!!!

(music) I'm A Believer!!!! (The Monkees, 1966) [2:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts

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posted February 12, 2016 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love your insights mirage!

And I didn't know where your Atropos was, when I posted that! How funny - now I see.

I've got a woozy head tonight and it's hard to concentrate...might be back later...I just want to think about what you said some more.

TTYL

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posted February 13, 2016 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Faith. And I hope you feel better soon.

You didn't know my asteroid before you posted that?? haha --- Our psyches are link and being telepathic again! {{ }}

{{Happy Valentine's Day! }}

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posted February 14, 2016 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you mirage!

Happy about your subscription!!! *fireworks*

Hope you have many great adventures there, and how lovely that someone gave that as a gift!

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According to D.George, we can 'talk' to those asteroids that give us trouble? ...

I love this idea so much I'm in shock and don't know what to say

And about your asteroids getting saved...my goodness...how can any idea ever be so cute???

Happy Valentines Day to you, too!

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posted February 14, 2016 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Yep, I reasearched about Demetra over the internet. I've seen she gives courses as well. All that is very interesting. I tried to use that technique she presented in the lecture involving the asteroids and guess what? The asteroid named like my ex husband showed up in my 7th house conjunct the DC and his last name in my 5th. In fact, it was a love marriage from my part but it seems to me it wasn't for him.

^ Oh....sad.

I still haven't watched the video but my ex who I thought I was going to marry, for several years...his name asteroid exactly on my DSC, if my chart is rectified correctly (I believe it is...this is just one more reason I think so.) But no, ultimately he changed his mind on wanting to marry me, too.

^^ He has my name, his NN, & Uranus all on the same degree.

There is no name asteroid for my husband.

But he has my name conjunct my Saturn. And I'm a Capricorn.

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posted February 15, 2016 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Atropos exactly conjunct my composite Asc.

Asc - 22.43
Atropos - 22.43
Sun - 24.35

What could this mean as it appears to be significant. That the relationship will definitly happen, or it will definitely die?

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posted February 16, 2016 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith.... Oh no, I figured out what was going on there... It was my honest mistake.

That was a 'computer-generated' letter and not a 'personal' gift. I guess they have good marketers and writers on staff. You know how 'advertisements' come in you mailbox and emails with your personal name on them? yes.

Twice in the past, that website was scrounging for money. They were seriously having money-problems, and I felt sorry for them and gave them some donations.

.... Simple as that. I "fell for" a cold marketing device. Things are 'designed' (deceptively, even) to have a more-intimate feel to them than they actually have. haha. My bad. The Robot fooled me.

omg, that's an asteroid....Let me look. The tSouthNode is CONJUNCT my Robot Pisces!! LOL

I have 15907 Robot Pisces 22.11' in my writer's house with Aquarius on the cusp (H3) and it trines my Vesta and Uranus Cancer!!! H8... and tRobot is retrograding right now through my H8, and reentering my H7-gemmy. Natal Robot opposes my Moon Virgo H9-leo cusp. And the tJupiter-NN in Virgo in my H9 has been bridging my Robot!! haha

I need to continue to be mindful to invest my dollars in me, and the things I Believe for in life. And to give my attention to people who believe in me, and invest in MY life.

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And about your asteroids getting saved...my goodness...how can any idea ever be so cute???


I'm still giggling. How can my gemmy-brain resist such an image????? haha THANKS for liking my humor!!! You know, if there was going to be ANYBODY who appreciated MY sense of humor??? I KNEW it would be YOU in that instance!

I like the way you give me space to be myself, Faith. {{ }}

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posted February 16, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
I have Atropos exactly conjunct my composite Asc.

Asc - 22.43
Atropos - 22.43
Sun - 24.35

What could this mean as it appears to be significant. That the relationship will definitly happen, or it will definitely die?


Or, possibly that your relationship was 'fated' to have that feeling that you could be together forever. A possibility of a forever-Love? Real Love doesn't die, merely transmutes? LOL

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posted February 16, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Or, possibly that your relationship was 'fated' to have that feeling that you could be together forever. A possibility of a forever-Love? Real Love doesn't die, merely transmutes? LOL
Thanks for this inspired interpretation! This is a guy I can't be together with, but feel hugely connected to. So, it seems to fit - the forever part, in whatever or whenever form.

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posted February 16, 2016 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks for this inspired interpretation! This is a guy I can't be together with, but feel hugely connected to. So, it seems to fit.

You're preaching to the Choir here. Sending HappyHUGS to you! {{ }}

I've heard that soulmate manifestations are possible right now. So, hold on to the Love-component, and ditch the hurt-baggages.

We'll get there!!! Keep your Heart HAPPY inside, and Believe that there are some Wonderful things ahead of you.

Thankfully, the Universe definitely has more than one fish available in its Cosmic Seas. {{ }}

(music) Love Hurts (Nazareth) [3:48] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRJaZdodEgI

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