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Vixen
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posted February 21, 2016 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(7441) Laska - means "love" in slovak/czech language
(5089) Nadherna - means "gorgeous" in slovak/czech
I don't know, how valid are those two asteroids for those who don't have Slavic descent...But I found out Vanessa Paradis actually has Nadherna conjunct ASC

(558) Carmen - named after flirtatious femme fatale from opera called "Carmen"
(2309) Mr.Spock - lol
(2991) Bilbo - for Hobbit fans
(5405) Neverland - for eternal kids
(90703) Indulgentia - to check how hedonistic you are
(4390) Madreteresa - named after Mother Theresa
(546) Herodias - biblical bad girl
(3838) Epona - celtic goddes of horses
(1068) Nofretete and (3199) Nefertiti - another beauty asteroids?

(4894) Ask and (4895) Embla - first humans in Norse mythology. Can be pretty useful in synastry
(7211) Xerxes and (622) Esther - again pretty useful for synastry

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posted February 22, 2016 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7441,5089,558,2309,2991,5405,90703,4390,
546,3838,1068,3199,4894,4895,7211,622

Thanks Vixen, I have ...
Neverland con Vesta opposite Carmen con Ask
Nofretete con Moon and Chiron
Nefertiti con POF
Epona con Pallas

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posted February 24, 2016 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Nadherna conjunct Fortuna
Carmen conjunct Venus and Skuld (oops )
Neverland conjunct DNA
Indulgentia conjunct Chiron
Madreteresa conjunct Venus
Herodias and Esther conjunct MC
Epona on antiscia Sun (I've always loved horses!)
Nefertiti trine Venus
Nofretete trine Sun
Embla conjunct Sun

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hypatia238
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posted February 24, 2016 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay! Thanks.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 25, 2016 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Thread. Thanks

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posted February 25, 2016 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the languages, asteroids seem to transcend languages and are the same for everyone.

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posted February 25, 2016 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Madreteresa conjunct NN

Herodias conjunct Jupiter (0.35), square Mars (4 minutes)

Neverland conjunct DNA.. (0.19). No surprise there.
Nefertiti conjunct DNA (2 minutes)
Embla conjunct DNA (1.22)
Mr. Spock conjunct DNA (1.20)


In composite with my boyfriend.. Ask opposite Embla (3 degrees). In synastry, Laska opposite Laska (0.40), and his Laska opposite my Sun. (2 deg). ^_^

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posted February 25, 2016 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
About the languages, asteroids seem to transcend languages and are the same for everyone.


Interesting ... because asteroid Hasse which in german language means "hate" doesn't seem to work for me it actualy makes conjunction to Sun of my former crush but Lust and BML are there too, so...

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posted February 25, 2016 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
Madreteresa conjunct NN

Herodias conjunct Jupiter (0.35), square Mars (4 minutes)

Neverland conjunct DNA.. (0.19). No surprise there.
Nefertiti conjunct DNA (2 minutes)
Embla conjunct DNA (1.22)
Mr. Spock conjunct DNA (1.20)


In composite with my boyfriend.. Ask opposite Embla (3 degrees). In synastry, Laska opposite Laska (0.40), and his Laska opposite my Sun. (2 deg). ^_^


awww, those are cute!
With someone I currently have my eyes on, I have Laska trine Laska Isna't that great?

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posted March 21, 2016 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Carmen square ascendant at 3 degrees and quincunx my sun and I'm not flirtatious at all. It's opposing Mas and conjunct Pluto too. It's weird, lol.

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posted March 24, 2016 02:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by neptunicity:
I have Carmen square ascendant at 3 degrees and quincunx my sun and I'm not flirtatious at all. It's opposing Mas and conjunct Pluto too. It's weird, lol.

I think this is where interpretation of name meaning gets tricky. Named for her,, but was being flirtatious her dominant theme?

and who said it was named for a particular
Carmen? http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi#top
Surely there is no vibration to that name
so strongly related to that idea.

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posted March 24, 2016 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
558) Carmen - named after flirtatious femme fatale from opera called "Carmen"

hey Vixen,,, ^^^^^^ sez who?

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posted March 24, 2016 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
I think this is where interpretation of name meaning gets tricky. Named for her,, but was being flirtatious her dominant theme?

and who said it was named for a particular
Carmen? http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi#top
Surely there is no vibration to that name
so strongly related to that idea.


Hehe, well I googled the meaning of "femme fatale" and I finally related to how it's defined by this site: http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/noir/np05ff.html

"Of the three types of noir women, the femme fatale represents the most direct attack on traditional womanhood and the nuclear family. She refuses to play the role of devoted wife and loving mother that mainstream society prescribes for women."

I don't have any desire to have kids, let alone fondness for children and I can't see myself being married, at the most only a live in arrangement. Maybe that's how it plays out in my case.

These asteroids can indeed be confusing! A whole lot of meaning into one, like Valentine or Medusa for example.

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quote:
Originally posted by neptunicity:
Hehe, well I googled the meaning of "femme fatale" and I finally related to how it's defined by this site: http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/noir/np05ff.html

"Of the three types of noir women, the femme fatale represents the most direct attack on traditional womanhood and the nuclear family. She refuses to play the role of devoted wife and loving mother that mainstream society prescribes for women."

I don't have any desire to have kids, let alone fondness for children and I can't see myself being married, at the most only a live in arrangement. Maybe that's how it plays out in my case.

These asteroids can indeed be confusing! A whole lot of meaning into one, like Valentine or Medusa for example.



Your response does not address the name Carmen being givin meaning of femme fatale and how.
The op states (558) Carmen - named after flirtatious femme fatale from opera called "Carmen"
I am merely stating that information is suspect. No where on the internet do I find that statement but here. JPL does not give a citation that the IAU gives as a reason for naming the asteroid Carmen so someone posting that here should site a source.

Why the characteristics oF A femme fatale named Carmen and not some other characteristics of that opera?

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posted March 24, 2016 07:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laska translates as Grace

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posted March 24, 2016 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2016 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seimei, this is how I found about Carmen... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meanings_of_minor_planet_names:_501%E2%80%931000
But we still should check discovery chart of the asteroid... I will do that soon

About Laska... yeah it DOES mean "Love" in Czech and Slovak language. What about checking this in dictionary before arguing with person whose native language is Slovak, Seimei

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posted March 25, 2016 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laska conjuncts my Moon less than one degree

And Neverland is in Leo conjunct my ASC, very fitting, imo. What better sign to be in than Leo with what it represents?

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posted April 06, 2016 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm finding lots of nice stuff with Laska. It's conjunct composite IC with my love and I. The word grace has come up once or twice between us...

I think Seimei was simply adding another meaning... not necessarily challenging your understanding...

I like knowing it's grace and love... very much.

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posted April 06, 2016 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about checking this in dictionary before arguing with person whose native language is Slovak, Seimei

Love that you responded, AND yes I did check, that is how I found that it means Grace,, if we want to say it means Grace also
that is fine.
As to that being your native language, that does not really mean squat. I know a lot of people that went through 4 years of college and still cannot speak their native language properly.
I'll ask the old woman at my grocery what the word means in her tongue, I bet we get a third meaning .She is from Serbia, but to me it is a Polish word.
There are small villages in Poland named Laska, yes more than one.
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posted April 06, 2016 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 06, 2016 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
What about checking this in dictionary before arguing with person whose native language is Slovak, Seimei

Love that you responded, AND yes I did check, that is how I found that it means Grace,, if we want to say it means Grace also
that is fine.
As to that being your native language, that does not really mean squat. I know a lot of people that went through 4 years of college and still cannot speak their native language properly.
I'll ask the old woman at my grocery what the word means in her tongue, I bet we get a third meaning .She is from Serbia, but to me it is a Polish word.
There are small villages in Poland named Laska, yes more than one.


Laska in Polish language has a few meanings.
Formal word means - walking cane, as well as a stick as a measuring unit, eg a stick of vanilla
In colloquial language it means a girl (like chick in eng), and depending on the context it can mean she's real hot. Certainly not Grace lol
There are four tiny villages by this name and that's pretty hilarious...but you have to be a native speaker to get the humor of it I'm afraid.
As for Czek/Slav language, it shares some words with Polish, though meaning may be quite different.
So best to check who named the asteroid and when, that will perhaps clarify the meaning.

You'll find you learn more from a native speaker than from Google translator, just saying...

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posted June 12, 2017 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn novile Indulgentia! Ha...I guess I am good at keeping excesses in check.

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posted June 20, 2017 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 9thScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From those mentioned, I used only four that ''spoke to me''.

Nadherna in Cancer in 6th. I am of Slavic descent so I just had to include it!

Nadherna trines Moon in Scorpio.
Nadherna squares Mercury in Libra.
Nadherna widely trines Jupiter in Scorpio.
Nadherna trines Saturn in Pisces.
Nadherna sesquiquadrates Nofretete.

Guess I just found myself almost exact grand trine because Moon, Saturn and Nadherna all at 8 degrees.

Carmen in Virgo in 8th house.

Carmen conjuncts Sun in Virgo.
Carmen semi-squares Venus in Scorpio.
Carmen sextiles Mars in Cancer.
Carmen trines Neptune in Capricorn.
Carmen sextiles NN in Scorpio.
Carmen trines SN in Taurus.
Carmen conjuncts Chiron in Virgo.
Carmen trines BML in Taurus.
Carmen trines Ascendant in Capricorn.
Carmen sextiles Midheaven in Scorpio.

Nofretete in Scorpio in 10th house.

Nofretete semi-squares Mercury in Libra.
Nofretete sextiles Uranus in Capricorn.
Nofretete conjuncts Pluto in Scorpio.
Nofretete squares Vertex in Leo.
Nofretete sextiles Ascendant in Capricorn.
Nofretete conjuncts Midheaven in Scorpio.

Nefertiti in Gemini in 5th house.

Nefertiti sesquiquadrates Jupiter in Scorpio.
Nefertiti quincunx Pluto in Scorpio.
Nefertiti sextiles Vertex in Leo.
Nefertiti bi-quintiles Midheaven in Scorpio.

Now, I use orbs up to 4 degrees and I do use minor aspects for asteroids but I do not see them as prominent as conjunctions.

Anyways, interesting topic!

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Moon in Scorpio
Venus in Scorpio
Jupiter in Scorpio
Pluto in Scorpio
MC in Scorpio
NN in Scorpio
ASC in Capricorn

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posted June 20, 2017 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carmen trines my Sun-Moon&Venus.
I might have had a moment in
my life as a femme fatal but
me thinks I was not lucid.


In dr synastry my husband's Xerxes is 8'02
on my Carmen 8'05 in Scorpio.
Hmmm, now this might explain a bit of our
chemistry.

Looking at my natal Vertex, it's BQ Nadherna,
my natal GC sextiles near exact Indulgentia.
Xerxes opposes my Mercury, exact. Herodias Qs my true node.

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