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areesquivel
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posted April 02, 2016 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering what could this mean, I have sun conjunct Lilith 4 degree orb, I read the sun that close is consider combusting the planet, in this case Lilith so my guess is something with male figures in my life, any help?

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posted April 02, 2016 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4 degree is too wide for an asteroid. The asteroids do not have the same thing as planets with the conjunction/combustion.
They need to be really close to matter cuz they are weaker bodies

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posted April 02, 2016 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne,

I love you and I respect your opinions astrologically speaking. However im going to have to disagree and say that the 4 degree orb of a CONJUNCTION to a LUMINARY or perhaps the CHART RULER is in my opinion VALID. Because I have PALLAS CONJUNCT my chart ruler 4 degrees wide and I do strongly identify with PALLAS 90% of my attitude corresponds heavenly with pallas, she also TRINES my moon close to exact. I have venus trine moon natally so it does feel like a DOMINO EFFECT.

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posted April 02, 2016 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Ami Anne,

I love you and I respect your opinions astrologically speaking. However im going to have to disagree and say that the 4 degree orb of a CONJUNCTION to a LUMINARY or perhaps the CHART RULER is in my opinion VALID. Because I have PALLAS CONJUNCT my chart ruler 4 degrees wide and I do strongly identify with PALLAS 90% of my attitude corresponds heavenly with pallas, she also TRINES my moon close to exact. I have venus trine moon natally so it does feel like a DOMINO EFFECT.


That's what I was thinking cause is the sun, so I thought it can be consider too close to the asteroid

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posted April 02, 2016 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Ami Anne,

I love you and I respect your opinions astrologically speaking. However im going to have to disagree and say that the 4 degree orb of a CONJUNCTION to a LUMINARY or perhaps the CHART RULER is in my opinion VALID. Because I have PALLAS CONJUNCT my chart ruler 4 degrees wide and I do strongly identify with PALLAS 90% of my attitude corresponds heavenly with pallas, she also TRINES my moon close to exact. I have venus trine moon natally so it does feel like a DOMINO EFFECT.


Thanks for being so respectful, Angel. I will keep that in mind as I do charts! xx

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posted April 02, 2016 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
4 degree is too wide for an asteroid. The asteroids do not have the same thing as planets with the conjunction/combustion.
They need to be really close to matter cuz they are weaker bodies


When it comes to asteroids only the conjunction and a close one is consider an aspect ? I have this doubt cause I'm a beginner, thank you so much for your help

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posted April 02, 2016 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for being so respectful, Angel. I will keep that in mind as I do charts! xx


No problem xx

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posted April 03, 2016 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by areesquivel:
I was wondering what could this mean, I have sun conjunct Lilith 4 degree orb, I read the sun that close is consider combusting the planet, in this case Lilith so my guess is something with male figures in my life, any help?

check declination as well.
To bodies 4 degrees apart in longitude might be 20 minutes apart in declination.
Declination for any body can be checked
here > http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=1181&day=3&month=4&year=2016&time=04%3A50&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=1&.submit=Get+Ephemeris&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac= Tropical&origin=Geocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M&longitude=on&declination=on

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posted April 03, 2016 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm no expert, but personally I think 4 degree for conjunction of asteroid with Sun is still valid. My father has 3-4 degree Aphrodite conjunct Sun and he was gorgeous! Especially in his 20s.
Monica Belluci (i hate talking about celebrities, but well...) has 4 deg Aphrodite conjunct Sun and in her case it looks like 4 deg conjunction still works

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posted April 04, 2016 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But Combust means exactly on the same degree of the Planet..

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posted April 04, 2016 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But Combust means exactly on the same degree of the Planet..

That's new to me thanks, I just thought the Sun combust a planet when it's really close, my guess was 4 degrees was close, but exact degree makes more sense.

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posted April 05, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's new to me thanks, I just thought the Sun combust a planet when it's really close, my guess was 4 degrees was close, but exact degree makes more sense.

Yes true. But lilith still influences your sun especially since it's a luminary. I can give you an interpretation of how your lilith CONJUNCT your sun can manifest if your interested?

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posted April 05, 2016 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Yes true. But lilith still influences your sun especially since it's a luminary. I can give you an interpretation of how your lilith CONJUNCT your sun can manifest if your interested?


Yes of course ! Please tell me, my guess was something relating to men in my life or something, this aspect is intriguing to me and I want to know more! Thank you!

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posted April 05, 2016 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes of course ! Please tell me, my guess was something relating to men in my life or something, this aspect is intriguing to me and I want to know more! Thank you!

Yes that's true but it does depend a bit. First, what sign is your sun/lillith in? And the house it sits in? And the ruler of your sun as well? Does your sun make any other aspect? And which lilith? Cause there's 4 different lilith's and each has a different yet similar role.

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posted April 05, 2016 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Yes that's true but it does depend a bit. First, what sign is your sun/lillith in? And the house it sits in? And the ruler of your sun as well? Does your sun make any other aspect? And which lilith? Cause there's 4 different lilith's and each has a different yet similar role.


Lilith is at 26 degrees Cancer in the 9th house, Sun at 22 degrees Cancer in 9th house, Leo sits in my 10th house MC, Sun makes a few aspects Trines my Pisces Moon, Conjuncts Lilith, Vertex by 2 degrees and Pars of Fortune by 3 degrees, Squares Jupiter in Aries in my 6th house.

I hope this helps, thank you again!

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posted April 09, 2016 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by areesquivel:
Lilith is at 26 degrees Cancer in the 9th house, Sun at 22 degrees Cancer in 9th house, Leo sits in my 10th house MC, Sun makes a few aspects Trines my Pisces Moon, Conjuncts Lilith, Vertex by 2 degrees and Pars of Fortune by 3 degrees, Squares Jupiter in Aries in my 6th house.

I hope this helps, thank you again!


im sorry i didnt get back to you i've been extremely busy arees. anyways so since you sun is conjunct your LILITH PLUS your VERTEX in the 9th house could mean that anyone that aspects your lilith/vertex/sun could make you feel that this person is someone that causes you to feel that you are not being treated equally, fairly, or possibly this person may make you feel very sexually attracted to them and they see you the same way in return but at the same time you feel the person that aspects your vertex/lilith causes you to feel like you need to feel like you are being respected in regards to your belief's or the knowledge of education level you have. It could also mean that this person or you view the person that constantly seems to disagree with your foreign belief's. i also feel possibly when you travel to foreign countries/places there is some power struggle's with men and how they view women, this may frustrate you to the core. especially since your lilith is in cancer you could feel like you need to be treated fairly in the household when it comes to culture, religion, customs in culture, education, teachers, professors, attorney's, the government, etc. There was probably a man in your life that made you feel you were not as smart possibly the family made you feel this way cause it is in cancer or possibly women made you feel like your not smart enough in the 9th house affairs.

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i have lilith in cancer conjunct my MC oposite my 7th/8th ruler (mars)(mercury_ and what i've noticed with this placement is that the men i'm sexually attracted to and see as my ideal partner/sexual partner often always give me power struggle issues often make me feel like im not being treated fairly in the relationship, they always tend to make me feel like i have to be this house wife (cancer) and i HATE THAT. I always was against the idea of being a housewife, i defently am somewhat of a feminist but i'm not crazy feminist but i tend to feel like a feminist with the men i' am attracted to and fall in love with. I do have problem with men all men that i want a relationship with i always will have power struggle issues with them because somehow i always tend to feel like im beneath them and i hate that. i love to feel submissive/vulnerable with my partners but i must demand respect because i often have issues of respect with the men i fall for. That is how my lilith plays out.

I' m sure you have similar traits since your lilith is conjunct your sun and maybe you had issues with your father cause i defently had issues with my father (mars). Let me know if any of this resonates. also keep in mind just because you have prominent lilith doesnt always make you a feminist but i have seen that there is often always pwoer struggles with the opposite sex especially if your a woman.

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posted April 09, 2016 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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im sorry i didnt get back to you i've been extremely busy arees. anyways so since you sun is conjunct your LILITH PLUS your VERTEX in the 9th house could mean that anyone that aspects your lilith/vertex/sun could make you feel that this person is someone that causes you to feel that you are not being treated equally, fairly, or possibly this person may make you feel very sexually attracted to them and they see you the same way in return but at the same time you feel the person that aspects your vertex/lilith causes you to feel like you need to feel like you are being respected in regards to your belief's or the knowledge of education level you have. It could also mean that this person or you view the person that constantly seems to disagree with your foreign belief's. i also feel possibly when you travel to foreign countries/places there is some power struggle's with men and how they view women, this may frustrate you to the core. especially since your lilith is in cancer you could feel like you need to be treated fairly in the household when it comes to culture, religion, customs in culture, education, teachers, professors, attorney's, the government, etc. There was probably a man in your life that made you feel you were not as smart possibly the family made you feel this way cause it is in cancer or possibly women made you feel like your not smart enough in the 9th house affairs.

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i have lilith in cancer conjunct my MC oposite my 7th/8th ruler (mars)(mercury_ and what i've noticed with this placement is that the men i'm sexually attracted to and see as my ideal partner/sexual partner often always give me power struggle issues often make me feel like im not being treated fairly in the relationship, they always tend to make me feel like i have to be this house wife (cancer) and i HATE THAT. I always was against the idea of being a housewife, i defently am somewhat of a feminist but i'm not crazy feminist but i tend to feel like a feminist with the men i' am attracted to and fall in love with. I do have problem with men all men that i want a relationship with i always will have power struggle issues with them because somehow i always tend to feel like im beneath them and i hate that. i love to feel submissive/vulnerable with my partners but i must demand respect because i often have issues of respect with the men i fall for. That is how my lilith plays out.

I' m sure you have similar traits since your lilith is conjunct your sun and maybe you had issues with your father cause i defently had issues with my father (mars). Let me know if any of this resonates. also keep in mind just because you have prominent lilith doesnt always make you a feminist but i have seen that there is often always pwoer struggles with the opposite sex especially if your a woman.


First of all thank you so much for taking the time to write this, this helps me a lot to understand the nature of the Lilith placement that somehow I felt was playing a role for being too close to the Sun.

Yes, you're absolutely right, I met a guy who's Venus Trines my Sun and his Sun Trines my Lilith among other things, he's from a different country and cultural beliefs was where I struggle the most, specially on the women view, all of what you say rings so many bells in my relationships with guys even father, a rocky road for me when it comes to relationships, I come from a Matriarchy so imagine that, I grew up on a Feminist family, though I don't consider myself a hardcore one, being a house wife wasn't a dream of mine also.

As on the part of the relationship with my father you're right also, I've been working on that for years, I identify completely on how your Lilith plays out for you, and what you say about for me, thank you so much, you helped me view this in a different matter, I had the notion had to do with men but didn't imagine how, THANK YOU!

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posted April 11, 2016 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by areesquivel:
First of all thank you so much for taking the time to write this, this helps me a lot to understand the nature of the Lilith placement that somehow I felt was playing a role for being too close to the Sun.

Yes, you're absolutely right, I met a guy who's Venus Trines my Sun and his Sun Trines my Lilith among other things, he's from a different country and cultural beliefs was where I struggle the most, specially on the women view, all of what you say rings so many bells in my relationships with guys even father, a rocky road for me when it comes to relationships, I come from a Matriarchy so imagine that, I grew up on a Feminist family, though I don't consider myself a hardcore one, being a house wife wasn't a dream of mine also.

As on the part of the relationship with my father you're right also, I've been working on that for years, I identify completely on how your Lilith plays out for you, and what you say about for me, thank you so much, you helped me view this in a different matter, I had the notion had to do with men but didn't imagine how, THANK YOU!


Thank you so much for your response Arees I'm so happy this resonated with you !

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