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Topic: Pallas and gender androgyny
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lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted April 08, 2016 05:18 PM
  
http://astrodynamics.net/david-bowie-magical-changeling-rest-in-peace/
Hello Knowflakes, I found a terrific piece on David Bowie who just so happened to have a prominent Pallas. Enjoy!
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Aquarius itself is ruled by Uranus (modern ruler; the traditional ruler is Saturn). Uranus instigates radical behavior that revolutionizes the way we view our world. The instinct for innovation and eccentricity was particularly strong in him as was the desire to continually reinvent himself...
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Ami Anne
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posted April 08, 2016 05:24 PM
I love your signature, LalaIt is perfect for a Cancer Mars  ------------------
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted April 08, 2016 06:44 PM
Not to discredit that article, and sorry for going off topic...but in case anyone's interested, I also feel like it's a Capricorn man thing.Especially second (Venus) decan. Just to show you...these are all 2nd decan Cap men:  Eddie Redmayne  Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) - pretending to be Elvis  ^ See? He's even wearing pink.... like Elvis:  In fact David Bowie did cite Elvis as an early influence (but who doesn't?) And here's Michael Stipe of R.E.M.:  Dave Matthews, though he usually does look masculine:  Syd Barrett in makeup:  You get the idea. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted April 08, 2016 06:58 PM
I assume everyone knows Bowie was second decan Cap...that's why I said all that.  IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted April 08, 2016 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Not to discredit that article, and sorry for going off topic...but in case anyone's interested, I also feel like it's a Capricorn man thing.Especially second (Venus) decan. Just to show you...these are all 2nd decan Cap men: Eddie Redmayne Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) - pretending to be Elvis ^ See? He's even wearing pink.... like Elvis: In fact David Bowie died cite Elvis as an early influence (but who doesn't?) And here's Michael Stipe of R.E.M.: Dave Matthews, though he usually does look masculine: Syd Barrett in makeup: You get the idea.
None of those men look androgynous... Wearing pink or makeup doesn't make it so... Bowie does he has extremely feminine features.
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted April 08, 2016 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
None of those men look androgynous... Wearing pink or makeup doesn't make it so... Bowie does he has extremely feminine features.
 Always contrary. Unquote me then? If you think I made an error, no need to repeat it. quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Bowie does he has extremely feminine features.
He didn't.  ^ Obviously a man.  ^ No one is mistaking him for a girl.
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted April 08, 2016 09:52 PM
Structurally I really don't think Bowie looks feminine.Nor androgynous. Just masculine. Anyway, this conversation makes me realize I don't know what people mean by androgyny. I thought of it as a matter of choice. And the willingness for a man to appear as feminine, by choice, is what I demonstrated with those Cap musician photos. IP: Logged |
Seimei
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posted April 08, 2016 10:08 PM
Interesting dichotomy ,, but it seems to me if one person views a person as looking masculine and another views THAT person as looking feminine
IZ that not androgynous , to look like both or neither , indeterminate ------------------
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted April 08, 2016 10:11 PM
None of those men look androgynous... Wearing pink or makeup doesn't make it so... Bowie does he has extremely feminine features.Agree  ------------------
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Faith
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posted April 08, 2016 10:22 PM
I guess I believe it's a matter of choice.If a person can easily flip back and forth, that's androgyny?  ^ Male  ^ Female (notice the need for makeup to pull that off)  ^ ???? To me that is androgyny, no idea what is going on there. But Bowie never pulled that off. He always looked too masculine for that, and maybe it wasn't even his desire to change it. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 09, 2016 11:25 AM
Paul is sooo cute  ------------------
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lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted April 10, 2016 12:30 AM
Hey Ami, you're right my signature does sound like a Mars in Cancer.  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted April 10, 2016 07:08 AM
It sounds like what a Mars in cancer SHOULD do, but we don't usually How have you been, Lala? xx ------------------
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Mystic_Cat
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posted April 10, 2016 09:03 PM
My girlfriend has Pallas on the ascendant, she doesn't relate to being a woman in the societal way, pallas definitely lights the way for gender non conformity------------------
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jemerson
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From: Phoenix
Registered: May 2021
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posted June 21, 2021 10:08 PM
I have a non-binary friend with Pallas conj. Sun they’ve got lady parts and have been able to grow facial hair since childhood. Other than the beard and mustache, they don’t appear androgynous at all and it’s usually shaven with them wearing feminine clothes. I mean it’s Pallas-sun not Pallas-asc though. They identify as non-binary.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 05, 2021 11:28 AM
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Gabriella :^)r
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posted July 10, 2021 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Not to discredit that article, and sorry for going off topic...but in case anyone's interested, I also feel like it's a Capricorn man thing.Especially second (Venus) decan. Just to show you...these are all 2nd decan Cap men: Eddie Redmayne Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) - pretending to be Elvis ^ See? He's even wearing pink.... like Elvis: In fact David Bowie did cite Elvis as an early influence (but who doesn't?) And here's Michael Stipe of R.E.M.: Dave Matthews, though he usually does look masculine: Syd Barrett in makeup: You get the idea.
Interesting, I have a cousin who is a Capricorn in second decan and looks femenine too. But wait, can this apply for anyone with its Sun in Venusine decan? (like Gemini in second decan?) IP: Logged |
Gabriella :^)r
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posted July 10, 2021 09:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Not to discredit that article, and sorry for going off topic...but in case anyone's interested, I also feel like it's a Capricorn man thing.Especially second (Venus) decan. Just to show you...these are all 2nd decan Cap men: Eddie Redmayne Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) - pretending to be Elvis ^ See? He's even wearing pink.... like Elvis: In fact David Bowie did cite Elvis as an early influence (but who doesn't?) And here's Michael Stipe of R.E.M.: Dave Matthews, though he usually does look masculine: Syd Barrett in makeup: You get the idea.
Interesting, I have a cousin who is a Capricorn in second decan and looks femenine too. But wait, can this apply for anyone with its Sun in Venusine decan? (like Gemini in second decan?) IP: Logged |
Gabriella :^)r
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posted July 10, 2021 09:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Not to discredit that article, and sorry for going off topic...but in case anyone's interested, I also feel like it's a Capricorn man thing.Especially second (Venus) decan. Just to show you...these are all 2nd decan Cap men: Eddie Redmayne Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) - pretending to be Elvis ^ See? He's even wearing pink.... like Elvis: In fact David Bowie did cite Elvis as an early influence (but who doesn't?) And here's Michael Stipe of R.E.M.: Dave Matthews, though he usually does look masculine: Syd Barrett in makeup: You get the idea.
Interesting, I have a cousin who is a Capricorn in second decan and looks femenine too. But wait, can this apply for anyone with its Sun in Venusine decan? (like Gemini in second decan?) IP: Logged |
Gabriella :^)r
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posted July 10, 2021 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Not to discredit that article, and sorry for going off topic...but in case anyone's interested, I also feel like it's a Capricorn man thing.Especially second (Venus) decan. Just to show you...these are all 2nd decan Cap men: Eddie Redmayne Alex Turner (Arctic Monkeys) - pretending to be Elvis ^ See? He's even wearing pink.... like Elvis: In fact David Bowie did cite Elvis as an early influence (but who doesn't?) And here's Michael Stipe of R.E.M.: Dave Matthews, though he usually does look masculine: Syd Barrett in makeup: You get the idea.
Interesting, I have a cousin who is a Capricorn in second decan and looks femenine too. But wait, can this apply for anyone with its Sun in Venusine decan? (like Gemini in second decan?) IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 25, 2021 06:18 PM
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Randall
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posted September 13, 2021 01:58 PM
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