posted June 09, 2016 11:25 AM            

http://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/astrology/transiting-uranus-conjunct-natal-chiron-an y-stories/

"this can also be a painful time, particularly if you have a lot of fear which causes you to hesitate and remain stuck in old patterns. If this is the case then you would do well to use this time to explore past experiences which have sparked fear and distrust."

"All of us tend to play certain roles in life. Often these roles are something we do out of necessity. At the time of a Uranus-Chiron transit interchange, we may examine these roles and say to ourselves: "Is this really me? How authentic am I being to myself - my TRUE self?"

Or you may just feel a feeling of discontentment - a feeling that you could be getting a lot more out of your life. It may be a time of changing your pathway in life so that your life comes to reflect a lot more of who you truly are. It may be a time when you become aware of how different you are to other people in some way, and how this can be a sort of wound because no one understands a certain part of yourself and who you are, but it can also be a time when you come to accept and integrate that unique part of yourself into your life a lot more. You may begin to harness your own individuality and genius a lot more.

Another face of the Uranus-Chiron transit is that you may experience magical and interesting connections with other people during this time. You may meet someone who is a teacher or a mentor of some sort."

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"CHIRON IN ASPECT TO URANUS
We are beyond the inner planets, and the elliptical fifty-year orbit of Chiron now becomes our primary center. The orbit of Sirius B around Sirius A is fifty years. We are letting go of the Sun and beginning to feel the galactic cosmic ray vibration. "Pentecost" means "the fiftieth" in Greek, and work with the Chirotic cycle brings the full comprehension of Pentecost. In the Hebrew ritual cycle, Pentecost is the fiftieth day of the harvest, and the festival carries all the power of the ancient harvest rituals. At the first Pentecost after the Ascension of Christ, the dynamic changed. The fire tongues of the Holy Ghost pierced the physical plane and entered the physical bodies of the Christians. This was a Chirotic event, and the meaning of human evolution was spiritualized into a birthing galactic connection. Now the emergence of the Chiron archetype is the Second Coming of Christos, a name unnervingly close to the name of the Centaur healer. The Second Coming is not a physical plane holocaust, an apocalypse; it is in fact the birth of the Chirotic force in the heart chakra of each healed human being.
Chiron aspects to Uranus need to be examined in light of the Chiron cycle to Uranus in general. As already discussed, Chiron's orbit is highly elliptical, and Chiron is in Aquarius through Taurus for about 28 years, and transits Gemini through Capricorn (8 signs) for about 32 years. It is in Aries for almost eight years, and it is in Virgo and Libra for less than two years each. Uranus spends about seven years in each sign. Therefore, Chiron makes some aspects quickly and then moves rapidly past Uranus. When Chiron is in Aquarius through Taurus, it can synchronize into a long-term aspect. For example, Chiron was square Uranus periodically from 1805 to 1835, and it is in exact opposition 41 times from 1952 to 1989. There were no aspects between Chiron and Uranus from 1900 to 1939. Therefore, with Chiron aspects to Uranus, often there is no data, and only speculations on historical trends are possible. Generally, aspects between Chiron and Uranus tend to increase the influence of Uranus.
Chiron was conjunct Uranus in 1796 when Chiron was in perihelion and probably within Saturn's orbit. The American Revolution occurred in 1776, the French Revolution in 1789, and Uranus was sighted in 1781—right in the middle. It would seem to me that a conjunction of Chiron and Saturn at the perihelion had a very conservative effect which tended to slow down the violently transformative impact of the discovery of Uranus. Chiron was close to a conjunction with Uranus during 1898 and 1899.
Chiron was sextile Uranus in 1800, 1894, and during November 1939 to July 1941. These natives are very opinionated, energetic, and obsessed with transformation. Chart 44 is of a healer who works with guided imagery in music. Chiron is in Cancer in the twelfth house sextile Uranus in the tenth, and she is extremely nurturing in her work. Uranus is also trine Neptune and sextile Chiron, and she is a powerful meditator and utilizes many forms of artistic expression. Generally speaking, this aspect seems to produce much attunement to art.
Chiron was square Uranus from 1805-1835 when there was much financial speculating in the world economy, and there was a worldwide economic crash in 1835 which caused depression until almost 1850. Chiron was square Uranus again in 1889 to 1891. Again there was much European and American speculation in the 1880s, and there was a currency collapse in America in 1893, with the economy in bad condition until 1897. Chiron was square Uranus again on and off in 1942 to 1944 during the depths of WWII. This aspect produces desperation and conflict in the personality, and an insatiable drive to transform consciousness.
These natives are courageous and cannot be stopped if they believe in something, and they are driven to get to the truth and meaning of any situation. The Chirotic force is intense, and the electrical transmutation of the body at the Uranus opposition is powerful. Chart 33, the channel of Atlantean symbols, has Chiron conjunct the North Node in the tenth house T-square Uranus opposite Mars in the first. When she is actively involved in higher consciousness work and teaching, she is calmed. Reviewing nine clients with Chiron square Uranus, all are unusually attuned to transformation and seem to be relaxed only when they are actively involved in the work. They all seem to be de-energized when involved in ordinary activities.
Chiron was trine Uranus in 1841 and 1842, in 1852 to 1855, and in November 1945 to October 1946. These natives seem to have difficulty finding their places in life; they seem to be confused about identifying the real meaning of their lives. The sanctuary worker, Chart 4, has had a well-organized career, but her work is often not close enough to what she really believes in. Of women clients with Chiron trine Uranus, I have noticed peculiar trends with childbearing. Four of them did not manage to have a child until nearly age 40, whether they were married or not, and now they are having quite a struggle with motherhood. It could be assumed that the upcoming Uranus opposition triggered the pregnancies, possibly to help open the heart chakra.
Chiron was quincunix Uranus a few times in 1844-46,1848-49, November-December of 1948, and July-September of 1949. This aspect is highly transmutative and creates a great vortex in consciousness for Uranian energy. These natives are extraordinary, and eventually will create something very special with this quincunx. Chart 7 is a weaver who is really struggling to bring in very Chirotic symbols. Her work is very powerful, but it is always an effort for her. Chiron in the seventh is quincunx Uranus in the second.
Chiron was opposite Uranus a few times from 1951 to 1989. This is an aspect of ferocious intensity which either bums the native out or pushes him or her to great transmutative levels. Drugs are a grave danger to this native, especially cocaine or psychedelic substances. Of eleven clients with this aspect, four seem to be hopelessly lost to drug addiction. Chart 8, a Hermetic teacher, has Chiron opposite Uranus, and this woman's skill with electrical body readjustment is great. The spiritual healer of Chart 2 is showing great powers with this aspect at an early age. The physician of Chart 21 is doing research to measure kundalini energy coursing through the body. Chart 41 belongs to a young artist who has been struggling to balance Chiron opposite Jupiter/Uranus/Mars. He is a person of remarkable awareness at a very early age. Chart 45 is of a glass blower who creates amazing spiraling forms of color within clear glass. It would seem that his fluid Uranian contact transmutes itself into bizarre manipulations of the physical plane.
The oppositions have been having a potent effect for a long time now. Observing the last five or six exact oppositions, l noticed that the accident rate increases, especially for airplanes. As this book gets ready to go to press, the Reagan government is tom apart by the Iran Contra Affair during the November 1986 opposition. The opposition stresses people out, makes them feel like everything is too much. Substance abuse is especially unwise during the opposition. Also, I suspect this aspect intensifies the potency of viral infections and may overstress the immune system. Many of the people dying of AIDS have this aspect natally, and they may weaken when it repeats. Again, we need much research at this time"

posted June 09, 2016 11:40 AM            

Expert: Zane B Stein - 2/4/2008

Question:
Hello, could you tell me what to expect from a conjunction of Transit Uranus to natal Chiron? (this one is in 8th house Pisces). Thanks so much!

Answer:
Hi, Kim,

Natal Chiron is, on one level, old wounds, sometimes those a person had covered over and does not want to face. Uranus transiting shakes this up, making it near impossible not to deal with the woundedness, face the cause and seek healing.
Natal Chiron is also how one seeks a guide, or counselor, or other sage wisdom, and Uranus passing over it often brings a guru or counselor or other guide into your life in some totally unexpected way, or someone who is not the type you would normally turn to for advice.

Uranus transits sometimes give more info, and quickly, than one normally is used to...it can at times indicate when passing over Chiron that you need to find ways to relax because it can seem like system overload.

To sum up, it's a time to let go of old wounds, let go of any resentment you have to those who may have hurt you, and seek counsel. Some people find that this is a great time to join a group to share your experiences with of other people going through similar times.

I hope this helps.

posted June 09, 2016 12:20 PM            

In December 2016-Jan 2017 we will be having close trines between Uranus/Saturn, probably within a couple degrees of your Chiron.
The most exact trine falls on Christmas day, Dec 25th...both sag Sat/aries Uranus will be @20.34, Jupiter will be there to, Jupiter libra@20.21...Merry Christmas! 😊
Thats on my aries Vertex/libra anti-Vertex....

Then again on May19 an exact trine between Saturn/Uranus @26, which is 1-2 degrees past my Chiron.

Heres the link, my phone has decided not to allow me to copy n paste it or else i would have posted the article, its short. http://www.plutoschild.com/books/transits/

posted June 09, 2016 02:51 PM            

my 3 exact hits were:

22nd june 2015
30th august 2015
2nd april 2016

I knew aobut the 1st hits, but wanted to trace what I was doing around the last hit, and I was posting THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DDdVW9XJWo

LOL

Yes NOW I remember what I was doing in the beginning of april.

I was going for a visit for my two greatest (musical) loves of the past.
I actually still have the white rose I was being given on the first concert (the "other" great musical love of the past, not the one from the video).

Sorry but I can`t report anything bad from the transit of Uranus over my Chiron.

it peaked around pivotal times for me.

1st time 22nd june.

5 days before the "summernight of musicals" which Mr Sag hosted and thought it was a good idea to single me out and tease me in front of 3000 people! I nearly died with embarassment (nah not really, I was squirming, yes, but honestly I love it being pulled into the spotlight - something I couldn`T admit for years though).

2nd time 30th august
just a week after the fanmeeting took place in which - do you detect a pattern? - Mr Sag was singling me out of the crowd and teasing me, wel about pretty much everything.

3rd time 2nd april
No Mr Sag this time

However the concert I mentioned, "Merci Cherie", took place on 8th april, and it was never planned that I would be going there. I was suddenly asked the day or 2 days before it took place, if I might want to join my aquaintances, as there was suddenly a ticket left (someone had to cancel cause they were sick or something), and I felt almost guilty, but they did nto even want money for it, but I gladly accepted the invitation, and it was such a wonderful serene peaceful "hopeful" mood there, sentimental value too of course.
And well as I said at the end of it I was given a rose. That was nice, too.

a trailer to the concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENko7vp41CY

However the song that touched and moved me the most and resonated was actually the one the woman sings as second part

"I know what I want
Like a gypsy travelling the world with you
leaving life`s petty messes behind
until we both lose our minds
wouldn`t that be nice?

I know what I want
every night shall be a celebration for us
and every path only leading to each other
That`s what I want
Tell me just this: do I want too much?

I know what I want
I want you totally and eternally with me
What`s keeping us apart, I will simply change
I`ve never moved mountains in my life,
I will move them now"

just a haunting melody.

Anyway so, Uranus-Chiron was a truely culmination transit for me, and well yes, I had to extend boundaries, but it felt great and liberating and I felt extremely appreciated and cared for and courageous, a feeling of

"I am scared, but I know I can do it. Face my fears, feel them and jump over the fence anyway."

It`S the Neptune-transits that I can`t really do anything with. lol Strangely enough. Tr Neptune square Mars was really bad.

posted June 09, 2016 03:25 PM            

Eventually tr. Nep will square my Mars gem@29.33....i had not thought about it but now im not looking forward to that, lol... any suggestions or words of wisdom?

posted June 09, 2016 03:53 PM            

I think it is always a combination of several things.

Of course I was having anxiety, too, and interestingly AFTER the transits completed, pretty much after seeing "Roy Fire", I fell in a deep hole, and had this feeling of dread and anxiety. And at the same time suddenly feeling like I was waiting for something to take place, something to begin, so I could move again, but for that time it felt like everything was stuck and numb and bleak and dreadful.

But that was after the transit.

my Chiron is rx in 20 Aries in 4th house, sextile my Moon on 17 Aqua and square my Saturn on 17 Cancer (Tr Uranus was already done with the squares to my Saturn).
Also square my Vertex-Eros on 21 Cancer and square my Sun/Moon-mp on 21 Capricorn

First hit of Tr Uranus square my Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp (they are precisely opposite) was on 28th april.
I will have some more of this though (november 16 and feb 17)

But in the month of my 1st Tr Uranus-Chiron hit there was also:
Tr Jupiter opposite Moon
Tr NN square Venus

- so hardly that desastrous.

In the month preceding my 2nd Uranus-Chiron hit:
Tr NN conjunct MC
Tr Jupiter opposite BML

November sucked big time!well not totally true, but it was emotionally taxing and exhausting and isolating.

Tr Saturn conjunct Mars
Tr Uranus square Saturn
Tr Saturn conjunct ASC

Apart from that I was having or am having:

Tr Saturn conjunct Neptune-Node:
december 15, july - september 16

Tr Saturn square Jupiter
january, july, september 16

Tr Saturn conjunct Sun-Mercury:
from next year on

Tr Neptune square Neptune-Node
marc, sept 16, jan 17

Tr Neptune conjunct Jupiter
april, august 16, february 17

Tr Pluto opposite Saturn
march, june 16 (yay, it peaked on 5th june. lol)
jan, sept, oct 17

oh the joy! Not just 3 hits, but FIVE

posted June 09, 2016 04:00 PM            

I can`t really find nice words for this one.
Actually when it happened simultaneously with Tr Mars conjunct n Neptune, I was suddenly starting to get bouts of dizziness which lasted a few weeks. Nothing unmanageable, but annoying.

Felt like I was wading through a swamp, numbness, feeling of meaninglessness, aimlessness and so on. It was not that I was despairing about something, it was more the absence of drive or feeling, everything felt like a fog in my mind. That was true for the first hits at least.

october and december 14 was different. Still confused, baffled about how things were developing, but I guess I just adapted. lol
So it was actually good, active dreamlife, and talking a lot about fantasies, spirituality, dreams, especially with Faithie.
And I guess it was the way to go for me. Expressing that fogginess and risking being delusional or fantasizing too much and just going with the flow.

Well Tr Neptune is in my 3rd house, and Mars in my 12th house, so that might have figured in.

posted June 09, 2016 04:20 PM            

You have another tr.Uranus pass over your Chiron...but it will be trined by Saturn.

posted June 09, 2016 05:44 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Tr Neptune square Mars
may, july 13
february 14
october, december 14

I can`t really find nice words for this one.
Actually when it happened simultaneously with Tr Mars conjunct n Neptune, I was suddenly starting to get bouts of dizziness which lasted a few weeks. Nothing unmanageable, but annoying.

Felt like I was wading through a swamp, numbness, feeling of meaninglessness, aimlessness and so on. It was not that I was despairing about something, it was more the absence of drive or feeling, everything felt like a fog in my mind. That was true for the first hits at least.

october and december 14 was different. Still confused, baffled about how things were developing, but I guess I just adapted. lol
So it was actually good, active dreamlife, and talking a lot about fantasies, spirituality, dreams, especially with Faithie.
And I guess it was the way to go for me. Expressing that fogginess and risking being delusional or fantasizing too much and just going with the flow.

Well Tr Neptune is in my 3rd house, and Mars in my 12th house, so that might have figured in.

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The physical part n the lost or lack of drive sounds terrible.
I remember times where i had unusual dizziness that came out of nowhere, lasted a few weeks then disappeared, it did reemerge a few times but i thought i must have been having issues with my blood pressure, its typically low. Also i was feeling like life was pointless, my will to live was at an all time low. I wrote a poem around that time about the way i was feeling...i just didnt see a purpose in my life or felt i had the strength to keep going. Then it all passed.
I wish i could remember exactly when that was...i wonder if that could have been when tr. Neptune was opposed my Mars. Hmmm...

posted June 09, 2016 06:00 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm experiencing it, too.

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posted June 09, 2016 06:09 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by teasel:
22-24 Aries is my Ceres, Chiron, and Sun grouping. Chiron conjunct Sun is my tightest aspect in my chart.

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My Chiron aries@24.14/Vertex aries@21.23

posted June 09, 2016 10:10 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Are you feeling anxiety, nervousness or anything like that? Im actually having times that my stomach is sick from it, but theres no legitimate reason for feeling the way i do.

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posted June 09, 2016 10:16 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
My Chiron aries@24.14/Vertex aries@21.23

Sun conjunct Chiron, wow! Is your energy drawn to whats tragically painful or are you focused on healing, either yourself or others?
Ive never thought what a combust Chiron would feel like...that makes your pain/healer such a deep part of who you are, it would be so hard to seperate yourself from it, if its even possible. Every energy that flows through your Sun/I am energy, is also flowing through Chiron at the same time. Wow, that could be very hard but also so beautiful once you moved into your healer. I love that Ceres is there also, what a life saver!

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I'm not actually sure what to make of Ceres being there. I once read that it's Moon, Venus, and Jupiter, all rolled into one. Which would fit with my demeanour, before certain things happened.

I keep ending up in bad situations, after thinking I'm okay, and moving forward. People deliberately working to drag me down, and have me thinking that I'm worthless, basically. Or thinking malicious things about me, that are untrue - attributing things to me, that I would never think of doing. It's like the wound could heal, but people decide that it shouldn't be - "oh, I see you're feeling better - let me pour some salt in there, and rub it nice and slowly - and a little acid, too." You know?

I've wondered why I attract rudeness from people, when I'm already feeling low (and have admitted it). Weakness seems to attract contempt - and I elicit responses that others wouldn't, even if they'd said something that I did. I guess it's fun to kick someone around? I don't know - I don't think it's fun. I would be putting a stop to it happening to someone else, or trying to make them feel better.

posted June 10, 2016 09:21 AM            

quote:

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Natal Chiron is, on one level, old wounds, sometimes those a person had covered over and does not want to face. Uranus transiting shakes this up, making it near impossible not to deal with the woundedness, face the cause and seek healing.

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Yes

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As you said, Gabby: "I agree it always a combonation but this Uranus/Chiron seems to bring a particular sense of unease n anxiety thats quite unique to anything else ive felt."

Me, too.

quote:

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At the time of a Uranus-Chiron transit interchange, we may examine these roles and say to ourselves: "Is this really me? How authentic am I being to myself - my TRUE self?"

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It seems to flicker on and off....

posted June 10, 2016 09:31 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by teasel:
I would be putting a stop to it happening to someone else, or trying to make them feel better.

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So would I...have things been happening here?

posted June 10, 2016 09:45 PM            

My dreams are always weird. I just realized, your progressed chart = my natal chart! Or close! And in that case....well....no wonder your dreams are weird.

posted June 12, 2016 03:37 PM            

Gabby it's weird that we were both so anxious leading up to the deadliest mass shooting in US history. Which began at 2 am this morning with the moon @ 20 Virgo, conjunct yours, opposing mine.

quote:

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I feel like ive been in a battle all night after i wake up.

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Sounds like psychic dreaming?

Checking back through my journal...my most recent nightmare was June 7th, where I wrote:

"Nightmare last night about people being poisoned everywhere...like Jonestown :/"

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posted June 12, 2016 10:03 PM            

I can see how my dreams could very well be that to...
My Pallas is exact opposed my Moon also.

The one dream i remember vividly i was inside a building but fighting to get out. A large group of ppl were all fighting, pushing everyone and i felt i was going to be trampled, it felt like i was suffocating. It could have been them panicking....in the dream i didnt know what was happening just trying to get out n away from everyone.

The others i dont remember the exact events but i know when i woke up several times in the past few weeks ive felt like id been through a battle. So much so that i have had soreness in my muscles, from something that was happening while i was asleep. Ive also been waking up with major neck pain n stress headaches from my sleep.

posted June 12, 2016 10:15 PM            

Wow

My stomach is much better, too, knock on wood. I'm just so sad about it all.

posted June 12, 2016 10:26 PM            

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