posted June 16, 2016 05:10 AM            

" I’ve been playing around with my chart and the charts of family and friends to see how the Uranians show up. And I’m seeing some interesting connections between the Uranian Hades and the asteriod associate with marriage or marriage needs, Juno.

Hades, from my research, is more about death and sorrow, though there are variations of the meaning. It’s…unpleasant to say the least. Probably the best benefit, if there is one, is that it can “prune” away the old stuff, whether we like it or not. So not to establish any major new concept here, but I thought I’d see what’s happening in my chart so far this year and see what’s going on with Hades. And maybe even take a look at it with Juno, since my Juno is exceptionally strong this year.

Initially, nothing really stood out so much in the different charts, even progressions and solar returns, though I suspect transiting Hades at the 29th degree in my solar return chart in 2012 will be significant, especially looking at its conjunction with transiting Moon as well as other planets in my natal chart. If you’re mind to look ahead and mark your calendar for around March 2, 2012, it could be a very interesting week for us all.

Where I found something particularly interesting was
in the lunar returns (with natal chart), courtesy of the free service at astro.com. (Please, go look it up and try this on your own–I’m not a professional, you’re not paying me, and I’m not going to do it for you.) In the lunar return charts, for specific moon cycles this year, I found some startling correlations in my personal life.

For example: I looked at the specific lunar month where a romantic relationship ended and there was Juno and Hades in a less than 1-degree conjunction. Death of a relationship? Hmmmm. Definitely the inciting incident that killed the relationship. In the next lunar month, Hades was conjunct Mercury and Venus. Definitely the death of any communication and lov…uh…let’s just say I got over it. He’d completely lost his appeal to me. The next lunar month? No Hades aspects…but hey, I sure do like that Juno-Venus conjunction!

My decision to leave that relationship affected several other people, so I checked their charts, too. One was unaffected, astrologically, and I have to admit, she’s oblivious to what’s going on. Another who was deeply emotionally involved had a Juno-Hades conjunction in the lunar month that all hell (pardon the pun) broke loose in her relationship, and the next month had a Hades-Moon-Venus conjunction.

For a man in my life who has recently had his entire world threatened by his past deeds coming to light, Hades was conjunct his Ascendant that lunar month and the next, when ramifications of his past hit at work, Hades was conjunct his Mid-Heaven, showing the damage to his career.

Another friend was served divorce papers a few weeks ago. His lunar return chart at the time? Hades conjunct Juno.

I found similar Hades connections in the charts of everyone I know who’s been through a recent breakup. I found no such connections in the charts of people who weren’t watching a relationship end.

So what if I look back on previous years? What then? Going back to my last break-up, Hades isn’t conjunct anything but…it is opposite a Juno-Pluto conjunction. The guy I was seeing? Hades was conjunct his Descendant. When I finally decide to sue my then-husband of two decades for divorce? North Node conjunct natal Hades and transiting Hades and Venus in conjunction.

I have no idea how accurate this is, but it’s been a fascinating trip through charts thus far.

ADDED, approximately 1 month later: At the time I tried this exercise, I ran the chart of another person in a committed relationship just as part of my control group and found the Hades-Juno conjunction there as well, in the May lunar cycle for that person. I didn’t say anything to anyone, but the couple has now split, unexpectedly."
http://www.thespiritualeclectic.com/2010/04/19/uranian-planets-hades-and-juno-and-relationship-break-ups-applied-astrology/

In a nutshell the author observed that whenever Hades is (tightly) conjunct Juno (or opposing) in a lunar return chart, a break up is very likely.

(which might also be true for Hades to Venus, (Moon?) and DESC).

However this has to occur in the Lunar Return, and it has to be tight (and she only mentions conjunction and occasionally opposition).

Have you noticed similiar things?

posted June 16, 2016 05:33 AM            

in her Solar Return that year she was having HADES trine JUNO exact.

In the year that Mr Sag broke up with his longest term girlfriend, his Solar return had:

Hades in 7th square Uranus in 3rd (conj. IC): 0°05

(making a Tsquare with his natal Moon, and SR Hades falling onto his natal IC - actually the break up occurred apparently just after she moved in with him).

The Solar Return directly following this year had Hades on IC opposing Juno on MC (and his natal Moon), and quinkunx Venus.
(the break up apparently took a while to be processed)

For the first months of the "break-up-year" he was having Hades oposing his Moon in several lunar returns.

at the end of the "cycle" he he was having Hades opposing an exact Moon-Juno-conjunction which was also loosely conjunct Vertex (on the exact antiscion).

I would rather think of those Hades-phenomenon as a "necessary transformation", in which direction ever. I mean even people with no relationship will have these aspects (I do for example, my SR has Hades conjunct Vertex and both oppose my natal Venus exact, and I think natal Vulkanus is around there somewhere, too). Well I am not in a relationship, pretty much a loner in this regard, so who or what am I breaking up with?

Though it seems quite evident that there ARE such changes/ transformations/transition/ endings due in rather drastic ways (Tr Pluto opposes my Saturn as well, and it does make 5 hits, instead of 3!)

posted June 16, 2016 06:07 AM            

When they got married, my Dad had
Hades conjunct DESC 1°09 in the Lunar Return that month

posted June 16, 2016 12:07 PM            

Yes, that's right, I'm looking for directions to Hades.

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Edit: I feel like there is a weird conspiracy going on. Site after site that I check refuses to give me the location # for Hades.

posted June 16, 2016 12:28 PM            

Thank you!

K, in the Lunar Return for when I lost my ex-soulmate...

1.49 Taurus Juno
14.40 Gemini Hades

Nothing.

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When I got married, lunar return Hades right on my Mars @ 16 Gemini, widely opposing Juno @ 11 Sag.

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posted June 16, 2016 02:28 PM            

BTW I still am not sure i buy the hypothetical planets anyway.

But I kind of want to CUPIDO is on my Sun and 7th house ruler (and that was in the Solar Return, so it is for the whole year).

And it is pretty much the one nice Uranian planet. lol

"Keywords: Getting together. All groups: family, marriage, society, organizations, corporations, collections. Art.

Defined by the combined glyphs of Venus and Jupiter, Cupido represents social ties and group affiliations, and has links to the world of art as well. It can symbolize one's personal family as well as one's business or corporate family (or more generally any organization, agency, or other social collective), and is frequently prominent at times of marriage." http://www.astrologysoftware.com/resources/articles/uranian.asp

Orbs with Uranian planets have to be very tight though. I mean, when I was born 41 years ago Hades was on 22 Taurus and now it is on 5 Cancer, so it took him only 41 years to move 43 degrees, so one degree per year, roughly.

I wouldn`t really go beyond an orb of 1 or at most 1°30 with the Uranians, actually only minutes with other genrational objects, the angles or quick moving planets might get a bit of a wider orb, because the Uranian planets might be slow, but the personal ones will move faster and hence aspect them.

posted June 16, 2016 05:16 PM            

"when you lost your ex-soulmate, did Hades aspect DESC, Moon, Venus or in your case Sun?"

No, it doesn't aspect anything. I guess the Universe wasn't crying after all, that we fell apart.

But if it matters, off topic: I see there is a Juno-Chiron opposition in that Lunar Return chart...

His natal Chiron 1 Taurus (on my LR Juno), transiting Chiron 2.02 Scorpio.

Near his Taurus moon (maybe conjunct his moon) and nodal axis.

"BTW I still am not sure i buy the hypothetical planets anyway."

I gotta research more.

"But I kind of want to CUPIDO is on my Sun and 7th house ruler (and that was in the Solar Return, so it is for the whole year).

And it is pretty much the one nice Uranian planet. lol"

Maybe if we believe in this hypothetical planet enough, it will come true. Like the Velveteen Rabbit.

"Orbs with Uranian planets have to be very tight though."