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SunAscendant
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posted September 18, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was reading this interpretation of infamous serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer's natal chart and thought that the asteroids and their subsequent aspects were very telling in regards to his sinister ways/personality.

1. NESSUS conjunct Fixed Star ALGOL: The centaur ruling abuse meets the unluckiest Star with the most foul reputation.

8. KAALI sextile Pluto: This makes the native comfortable with death and sacrificial rituals. This can be great placement for occult transformation but in an already afflicted chart, this enhances wicked acts and bloodlust.

I have Lucifer conjunct Nessus in my 4th house of Libra and thankfully haven't had any evil drama at home (maybe the calming and balanced influence of Libra negates the nefarious Lucifer and Nessus ways?).

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 19, 2016 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Ami Anne
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posted September 19, 2016 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucifer is more pride than evil, per se, S

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Ami Anne
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posted September 19, 2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there are evil people. I have met them/dealt with them and they have been truly evil.

However, one would really need to look at the whole chart for this.

Conscience is Jupiter

The Moon is the heart.

Mercury is the mind

It would take me a long time on a chart to come to this conclusion.

Then, there are some people who are born with no empathy

This does show up

It is complicated, my Friend.

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fractaling
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posted January 24, 2017 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fractaling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, Swindle is the worst. Ted Bundy had Swindle conjunct his Venus. Whatever it touches becomes practically void bate to anyone but the owner. I know someone with Moon/Pluto (in Scorpio, in the 8th!) conjunct Swindle, and their entire emotional life is a projection used to manipulate others. They have no empathy whatsoever.

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posted January 24, 2017 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fractaling:
In my opinion, Swindle is the worst. Ted Bundy had Swindle conjunct his Venus. Whatever it touches becomes practically void bate to anyone but the owner. I know someone with Moon/Pluto (in Scorpio, in the 8th!) conjunct Swindle, and their entire emotional life is a projection used to manipulate others. They have no empathy whatsoever.

Interesting. Great post. The asteroids always tell the truth lol

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posted January 29, 2017 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent point fractaling.

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posted January 29, 2017 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fractaling:
In my opinion, Swindle is the worst. Ted Bundy had Swindle conjunct his Venus. Whatever it touches becomes practically void bate to anyone but the owner. I know someone with Moon/Pluto (in Scorpio, in the 8th!) conjunct Swindle, and their entire emotional life is a projection used to manipulate others. They have no empathy whatsoever.

Yes, great info, F. Thank you!

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posted January 29, 2017 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the REAL source of evil is not facing yourself. If one faces oneself, one really cannot be evil, in a way. It is in the LYING that evil grows. Everyone should read Dr Scott Peck--"People of the Lie".

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posted January 29, 2017 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Hea ling-Human/dp/0684848597/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485699089&sr=8-1&keywords=people+of+the+lie

Here is the book if anyone is interested.

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posted January 29, 2017 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you insist....

Donald Trump has Swindle as a skipped step, squaring his nodes and sun-moon opposition.

20.57 Virgo Swindle (8690)
20.48 Gemini NN
22.52 Gemini sun
21.12 Sag moon

I guess he just needs to face his own evil. Maybe send him that book, Ami.

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So you're fully aware of how it can turn out, you know.

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posted January 29, 2017 05:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plenty of serial killers can "face" themselves. Pee Wee Gaskins, for instance, laboured under no delusions about what he was.

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posted January 30, 2017 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If "evil" persons could be shown by asteroid aspects, then there is no free will and we're just mere puppets. There are millions of asteroids, there's a pretty good(or shall I replace "good" with "evil") chance of one of those "evil" asteroids conjuncting/opposing/squaring your planets, which means we're all evil ....dayum! who'd have thought ?

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posted January 30, 2017 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the point. Everything's in all of us, just different proportions. Knowing yourself heals all.

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posted January 30, 2017 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Self awareness heals all !!!

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posted January 31, 2017 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm yes. It's pretty amazing, we try all kinds of complex things, but what heals is awareness, which is a rather simple phenomenon.

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posted February 01, 2017 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So fascinating thank you

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Faith
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posted February 03, 2017 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Self awareness heals all !!!

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I don't understand.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 03, 2017 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Self awareness heals all !!!


YES, as Jung says, if you face yourself, you can heal. Great post, PS

LOL--I am making a call


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posted February 03, 2017 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

YES, as Jung says, if you face yourself, you can call.

What?

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

YES, as Jung says, if you face yourself, you can heal. Great post, PS


Practice what you preach.

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posted February 07, 2017 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any asteroids for sexual perversion besides Dejanira?

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Ami Anne
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posted February 07, 2017 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Any asteroids for sexual perversion besides Dejanira?

Ummm Great question. Sado, for one

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posted February 07, 2017 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
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I don't understand.


Self awareness heals all.

To clarify... this statement was made in follow up to my statement about all the asteroids appearing in all of our charts, in differing proportions, the so called good ones, and so called bad ones, that we apply interpretations to, for understanding the energies, patterns or archetypes they represent in us, just patterns that occur in differing proportions in each of us. So when you suffer in some way, and we all do at one time or another, the way to heal is through understanding which energies are activated or triggered at that time. Just through awareness, healing can begin to take place. So knowing yourself, accepting all that all energies or patterns exist for us all, and accepting them, we can step back from automatic unconscious reactions, and express those energies in a constructive way.

Im not actually stating that if serial killers saw their asteroids they would heal. I'm saying when we accept all the energies that exist in us, as a pattern of humanity, and really understand those energies as they exist in us, we can heal through whatever growing pains we are experience during our lifetime.

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posted February 07, 2017 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take, for instance Nessus, Algol, Lucifer, Kaali, others mentioned above, we can all freeze in a state of fear and avoid someone or prejudge someone who may have a prominence of "bad" asteroids or so called negative aspects. But understand your own experience of how you relate to those energies and you can heal any instance of negative experience or even avoid negative experience with those individuals.

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