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Ami Anne
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posted November 19, 2016 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Five Painful Aspects in the Natal Chart–Part Four

It was pointed out to me that I did a Part Five without a Part Four. That is an earth void in action.

1. Echo Conjunct the Sun
I have Echo conjunct Saturn. That which conjuncts Saturn makes for a difficult struggle. Echo is one’s authentic voice. I have a person ready to edit my website. Right before she was going to start the job, I asked her not to edit. My website represents my voice. The grammar may not be right. The words may not be the best choices, but they are my choices and a personal expression. Hence, I would rather have some mistakes than a pristine palette, which does not reflect who I am. In my experience, Echo conjunct the Sun seems to pack the worst wallop. These natives seem to crave a great deal of approval. As a result, they seem to elicit the dislike of others. They do not seem to ever understand why. Instead, they seem to become arrogant, rather than face their role in their own problems.

2. Seventh House Stellium
This stellium seems to be one of the hardest. That which resides in the seventh house may be cast out by the native, unconsciously, and sought out in the partner. If we have a planet like Mars, the native may give up her own drive to her partner. This does not make for a happy person because we all need to own our own personality parts. Depression may result when we cast them off.

3. Dejanira(157) Conjunct the North Node
That which conjuncts the North Node becomes a life theme. One would not choose to have Dejanira, the victim asteroid, conjunct the North Node. At best, one would learn a great deal and be able to help others, but most people would not choose this route, due to the fact that the native would, likely, be victimized in her road to learning.

4. Sedna(90377) Conjunct the Moon
Sedna is betrayal by the father and men, in general, thereafter. The myth of Sedna will bring tears to your eyes. I have an article on this, if you want more details.


5. Kaali(4277) Conjunct the Ascendant
Kaali is the energy body. When it conjuncts the Ascendant, the energy of the native seems to be easily dispersed. It is like the native is wearing his “insides on the outside”Spending time with people can really drain the energy of the native. Hence, Kaali conjunct the Ascendant is very difficult and painful.

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victonpearlman
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posted November 21, 2016 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for victonpearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto, BML, Juno all conjunction with my Descendant. Somehow they gave me problems related to sex and power struggles within relationships.

Dejanira is in my 10th house and people seems to pick on me in a group, a kind of bully but I have my Pluto square Midheaven and Pluto opposite Venus which makes me not able to tolerate any kind of crap.

My Pluto on descendant attract jealousy and possessive people sometimes, but I don't mind it, I am open to experience it cuz I can feel the pressure of pluto on my 7th house. Scorpio theme is part of my life in general.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 21, 2016 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by victonpearlman:
I have Pluto, BML, Juno all conjunction with my Descendant. Somehow they gave me problems related to sex and power struggles within relationships.

Dejanira is in my 10th house and people seems to pick on me in a group, a kind of bully but I have my Pluto square Midheaven and Pluto opposite Venus which makes me not able to tolerate any kind of crap.

My Pluto on descendant attract jealousy and possessive people sometimes, but I don't mind it, I am open to experience it cuz I can feel the pressure of pluto on my 7th house. Scorpio theme is part of my life in general.



Pluto conj the DSC attracts Pluto types, which are super intense but you may not feel "alive" without them, so this can become a cycle lol

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posted November 21, 2016 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good stuff!

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Ami Anne
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posted November 21, 2016 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Good stuff!

Thank you, Randall.

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posted November 26, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dejanira (157) 24.15 square NN 24.23 / Juno 24.43 / Vertex..
Dejanira conjunct chiron 23.53 in 7th house..

Am I doomed to have/in bad relationship and the most painful road of learning through those experience?

YES.

The funny thing is I may gain wisdom through it and can give the best relationship advice but still can not help myself out.

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posted November 26, 2016 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, your life pain may be in relationships due to the house of Chiron and also, likely, pain at being victimized. Yes, you will gain wisdom to be able to help others. We can't choose our charts,

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