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Topic: How Is Eros (433)Different Than Cupido(763)
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Ami Anne
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posted December 15, 2016 04:27 PM
  
This is a great question. Eros(433) is the erotic. Some people are more erotic than others. Some people are more athletic than others. All traits are on a continuum. Hence, the person who is more erotic will, likely, have a more pronounced Eros. A pronounced Eros would be conjunct a personal part of the charts, such as the Ascendant, MC and all personal planets(Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars) Eros conjunct Jupiter and Saturn are important placements, as well. Saturn cools what it touches and may make it obsessive. The native with Saturn conjunct Eros may be obsessed with sex. Jupiter enlarges what it touches. Hence, the Jupiter/Eros native may be very i.e erotic.Cupido (763)has the look of love, but not the commensurate feelings therein. Hence, the classic Cupido would be Don Juan. The one opera I love is Don Giovanni. He seduced thousands of women. One of the most famous operatic songs is a list of all the women---- old, young, blond, brunette, white haired, German, French, Spanish, Italian. I will link the song at the end of the article. The Cupido native must appear as loving and caring in order to capture his prey. Most women do not want to have a sexual encounter with a man who does not at least “appear” as if he is smitten with her. Therein, we find the nature of Cupido: the look of love but a heart that may be cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgC3GGxF1E0 ------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted December 16, 2016 04:43 AM
"In classical mythology, Cupid (Latin Cupido, meaning "desire") is the god of desire, erotic love, attraction and affection. He is often portrayed as the son of the love goddess Venus and the war god Mars, and is known in Latin also as Amor ("Love"). His Greek counterpart is Eros.[1]"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid
Just pointing out a different opinion and the mythological background.
Personally I have observed in the natal and synastric charts I did, that Cupido is more playful and flirtative (often in a verbal way interestingly) than Eros, but definitely not superficial.
Unless ones views desire as superficial of course. In the first post it sounds as if strong Cupido is misleading people and pretending to be in love while possibly pursuing his own agenda; while everyone of course has their right to their own opinion, I simply want to point out that I have not found this to be the case in MY sample of charts. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted December 16, 2016 08:29 AM
Ami,a woman I know, has her Cupido conjunct Sun in the 6th, and she is the biggest flirt in the firm. She doesnt go further than flirts, but she can charm anyone and she does. She is very forward with her flirts. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted December 16, 2016 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by Orange:
Ami,a woman I know, has her Cupido conjunct Sun in the 6th, and she is the biggest flirt in the firm. She doesnt go further than flirts, but she can charm anyone and she does. She is very forward with her flirts.
YES, my experience has shown this to be the case with a strong Cupido, as well, Orange. Great comment  ------------------
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hypatia238
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posted December 16, 2016 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"In classical mythology, Cupid (Latin Cupido, meaning "desire") is the god of desire, erotic love, attraction and affection. He is often portrayed as the son of the love goddess Venus and the war god Mars, and is known in Latin also as Amor ("Love"). [b]His Greek counterpart is Eros.[1]"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid
Just pointing out a different opinion and the mythological background.
Personally I have observed in the natal and synastric charts I did, that Cupido is more playful and flirtative (often in a verbal way interestingly) than Eros, but definitely not superficial.
Unless ones views desire as superficial of course. In the first post it sounds as if strong Cupido is misleading people and pretending to be in love while possibly pursuing his own agenda; while everyone of course has their right to their own opinion, I simply want to point out that I have not found this to be the case in MY sample of charts. [/B]
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Faith
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posted December 16, 2016 05:26 PM
@Ceri  I have Cupido @17 Scorpio, widely conjunct my NN @ 20 Scorpio (2.08° orb). Bacchus and Kaali are at 21 and 22 Scorpio respectively. NN-Bacchus = Cupido/Kaali midpoint Next time I get married (or one of the next times), I really should spend more money on the bachelorette party than the wedding itself, don't you think? Maybe hire some energy-healer massage therapists (Bacchus-Kaali) for my guests and I to flirt with. Since it's Scorpio, we'll just have to keep the lights dim. But in all seriousness... It's interesting that my natal Cupido is conjunct my composite NN with my husband (same degree) and we've been together forever. IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted December 16, 2016 09:54 PM
Cupido is also a fixed star (h40). So, the meanings can apply to either. Certainly, the superficial 'Don Juan" meaning makes no sense to me.Cupido (763) is conjunct my Spirit at the Super Galactic Centre. It is 1 degree away from EROS  . The sabian -
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Ceridwen
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posted December 17, 2016 02:53 PM
Sorry Astrokeen, but Cupido h40 is actually a hypothetical planet, one of the transneptunians.
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Astro keen
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posted December 17, 2016 02:59 PM
Thanks, not a fixed star. But would the same meanings apply here? Would the asteroid and transneptunian object differ in strength of influence. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 17, 2016 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks, not a fixed star. But would the same meanings apply here? Would the asteroid and transneptunian object differ in strength of influence.
They are suppose to be different with the hypothetical one more connected to marriage and serious partnerships and the asteroid one more with attraction and falling in love. I started a thread a while ago on the differences bt the two that generated a lot of great insightful feedback. I know Ceri is not a big fan of the transneptunian hypothetical planets/points. IP: Logged |
karena
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posted November 19, 2017 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"In classical mythology, Cupid (Latin Cupido, meaning "desire") is the god of desire, erotic love, attraction and affection. He is often portrayed as the son of the love goddess Venus and the war god Mars, and is known in Latin also as Amor ("Love"). [b]His Greek counterpart is Eros.[1]"Just pointing out a different opinion and the mythological background. Personally I have observed in the natal and synastric charts I did, that Cupido is more playful and flirtative (often in a verbal way interestingly) than Eros, but definitely not superficial.
Unless ones views desire as superficial of course. In the first post it sounds as if strong Cupido is misleading people and pretending to be in love while possibly pursuing his own agenda; while everyone of course has their right to their own opinion, I simply want to point out that I have not found this to be the case in MY sample of charts. [/B]
I agree with you. In my research I've found Cupido quite important in synastry and composite，not superficial at all. In composite chart of passionate lovers or married couples it often exactly conjunct the angles or the 5th house cusp or sometimes conjunct the sun. In synastry of couples it often appear along with phyche / eros / amor / venus in which one can clearly see the main theme is related to the cupido-psyche myth.
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Stellia
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posted November 20, 2017 12:24 PM
This is really interesting as I'd always only ever read things about Cupido 763 as being related to infatuation, with the TNO Cupido h40 being a much deeper connection.I'd also not realised the connection between eros and cupido - at least until I watched a phenomenal documentary the other night about the history of the venus myth. I have a synastry with someone where his cupido 763 is very closely conjunct my amor (0.32 degrees) and had always disregarded this. The same person has his name asteroid tightly conjunct his psyche (conjunct my name in my chart), and eros conjunct my surname in his chart, which might be interesting. Definitely time to dust off Eros, Psyche and Cupido... also - anyone else find it unusual or interesting that the Romans also used Psyche with the same name? Are there any other deities that transcended the ancient cultures? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 20, 2017 02:34 PM
I think they are very different. Each asteroid is a SLICE of life. No one is saying Cupido is bad and Eros is good etc. Each one is just a part of human behavior lol------------------
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arcturus90
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posted November 23, 2017 07:50 PM
Hello, for me Eros is very different from Cupido : eros is passionate and Cupido represents the "love connection".. IP: Logged |
arcturus90
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posted November 23, 2017 08:10 PM
Hello, in my opinion, Eros is very different from Cupido, there's no need to compare them... Eros is passionate and Cupido a "love connection", maybe more romantic. IP: Logged |
SiriusAntares
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posted December 13, 2017 02:10 PM
hey everyone! :-D how would conjunction of sun eros and erato from one side and cupido prey conjunction from the other side play out in synastry? IQ?IP: Logged | |
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