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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted December 28, 2016 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been looking into the origins of Rh negative blood types. I myself am B-neg.
Through my reading, some writers are making a connection between rh-neg blood and the Sumerian peoples, so I thought I would check the position of asteroid Sumeria (1970) in my chart and that of family members.

It conjuncts a personal planet in several cases:

Myself: Sumeria cj. Pluto (1.5').
Mother: Sumeria cj. Jupiter (0.50').
Grandfather: Sumeria cj. Mars (2').
My youngest son: Sumeria cj. North Node (exact).
My older son: Sumeria cj. Saturn (1').

I can only check my maternal side, as I do not have birth data for my paternal family, however, interestingly, the rh-neg blood has come through my mother's side. She has O-neg, her mother has AB-neg.

If you have rh-neg blood or know someone who does, could you help me out and check if asteroid Sumeria conjuncts a personal planet (under 2 degrees, preferably).

Thanks!

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posted December 28, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an O+ universal donor...
My MGF had O-neg
(He had Sun Virgo 9+ degrees, born ~1900, 1901?)
He was a firefighter his whole life, and was often called into the hospital emergency rooms to give blood, as O-negs are a rare blood type.

His wife (my Libra MGM 7+ degrees, born 1900), had difficulties with firstborn child (a son) dying just after birth. (Could it have been the rh-neg factor??)


I wanted to respond to your post by giving you a medical asteroid with a tie to "blood".

Natal
1970 Sumaria Capricorn 18.55 rx, H2.
11121 Malphighi Cancer 18.06 H8.

Good luck, Voix.
It will be interesting to see what you'll discover.

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posted December 28, 2016 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ancestors....

A ref could be your Moon.

Guessing perhaps some Fixed Stars in Virgo (zodiac) around 21 to 23+ degrees?
Denebola, Alkies.

55555 DNA

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posted December 28, 2016 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mirage,
yes. Those difficulties could have happened if the baby was rh-positive and the mother rh-negative, and certainly in those days, the likelihood of their blood mixing would be higher than nowadays with more awareness and advanced medicine/hygiene.

I was given a jag to prevent my blood attacking my sons' while I was pregnant.

Thank you for those additional asteroids, I will check them.

That's interesting that you have Malphighi cj. Sumeria - what is its definition?
I have it 5 degrees from my Moon, weird that you mentioned Moon.

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posted December 29, 2016 10:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have negative Rh, but Sumeria does not conjunct any personal planets. Interestingly, it does square my natal asteroid Karma, though.

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posted December 29, 2016 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Rh neg and Sumeria is conjunct my Mars, Uranus and sun/moon midpoint.

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posted December 29, 2016 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am B- and I have Sumeria conjunct my DNA:

Sumeria 13.41 Cap
DNA 13.57 Cap

It squares Mercury and is quincunx Asc.

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posted December 29, 2016 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the opposition, not conjunction.
I don't really know if it means anything significantly, applying to your blood study.

I like your curiosity.... and explorations.

Malphighi was a physician in the 1600s.

You can read more about him in the url I leave here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcello_Malpighi

Sometimes we can extrapolate meanings from knowing more about the person for which the asteroid was named.

Playing with the asteroids is fun work!


ADDing=== only for info
http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/sumeria.htm

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posted December 29, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually... in the tiny scrawl in my databook, Malphighi 11121 is associated with medical science research and discovery! Was fundamental in discoveries about The Lungs.
Blood/hematology.
Study, Microscopic.

I've seen this work in my own chart having to do with Lung concerns I had medically back last summer...

(Things resolved. A tech had interpreted a chest xray wrongly. Gave a big scare for a few months.)

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posted December 29, 2016 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another research clue???

Look at this article.... see the names associated.

I KNOW there are asteroids for 18182 Wiener, and 7885 Levine.

You might check to see if there's an asteroid Landsteiner. (Many asteroids are also named after astronomers, which he was!)
http://www.rockefeller.edu/about/awards/lasker/klandsteiner#sidebar
http://www.discoveriesinmedicine.com/Ra-Thy/Rh-Factor.html

asteroid 9142 Rhesus

There are regions asteroids too... like
63163 Jerusalem
7507 Isreal

If you follow my drift..... I hope it helps you expand your research.

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posted December 29, 2016 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apollo6284     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Type A+. Sumeria doesn't conjunct with any of my planets, so in a way, there seems to be a relationship with Sumeria/Rh neg blood

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posted December 30, 2016 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting link.

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posted January 03, 2017 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone, for taking the time to answer. And thank you for the additional information Mirage.

It does look like there may be a link, although there is one with no conjunction in this thread.

I wonder if it is certain types of negative blood only. I don't like outliers!

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posted January 03, 2017 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can those who answered post whether their negative blood is AB, A, B, or O please?

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posted January 03, 2017 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is A neg

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posted January 04, 2017 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O neg

Sumeria squares Moon 1 degree

Daughter has same aspect and blood type.

Her father has it trine his Sun and sextile his Juno 1 degree and 2 degrees.

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posted January 06, 2017 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. I don't really have enough responses to draw any conclusions at this point (and this is not a defined research study in the true sense of the term - more a look to see if there is link worth following).

I was hoping only conjunctions between Sumeria-planets would show more, as opening it up to other aspects increases the odds of hits and therefore reduces the significance of any results.

I'll go through and post basic result indicators, and hopefully if I keep the thread bumped it will attract more data.

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posted January 06, 2017 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK. I have collected the basic results, but only from the members placements, as I did not define which family members to check so I can't draw anything much from that at present.
Perhaps that can be the next step.

But first, here is what we have from members (wish I could do a table, it will look so messy):

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AB.neg.-----none

A.neg.------(1)cj. Mars/Uranus

B.neg.------(1)cj. Pluto; (1)sq. Mars

O.neg.------(1)sq. Moon

Aside from the fact I only have four people's results at present, results will also be affected by the percentage of people with each blood type, i.e. AB.neg is rarer than O.neg, so there is likely to be less responses of AB.neg in general.

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Looking for more responses, but only for you personally at this stage:

* If you have rh.neg blood, does asteroid Sumeria aspect (within 2 degrees) any natal planets (not other asteroids)?
* Please state your blood type e.g. AB-, A-, B-, O- and the planet and aspect to Sumeria.

(If I get enough responses, we can open this out to family members again - too muddy to do it at present.)


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posted July 26, 2017 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 27, 2017 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sumeria cnj saturn

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posted July 30, 2017 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonmystic and Tensionempire, thank you for responding.

Tensionempire, could you provide your blood type please?

Moonmystic,
I am not defining by planet at present, I am just gathering data on any conjunctions under 2 degrees to any natal planet. If there are enough of those, we can look at whether there is a planetary pattern, although the importance of which natal planets are involved would also have to be analysed in terms of what that planet represents in the individual natal chart. We would then have to theorise what this would indicate in terms of a Sumerian previous life. So it could get really complicated at that point.

Sumeria cj. Moon and Venus can be added, although I will have to think on how I afford one person with two conjunctions, that would potentially skew results. Not sure how I would do this at present.

I think what I will just include them for now.

Thank you for helping out with this project, I appreciate it.

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posted July 30, 2017 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Updated Table
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AB.neg.
Nil

A.neg.
(1)cj. Mars/Uranus
(1)cj. Venus/Moon

B.neg.
(1)cj. Pluto
(1)sq. Mars

O.neg.
(1)sq. Moon

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posted July 30, 2017 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not me, I think he has Rh negative.

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posted July 31, 2017 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Removed due some on the site who are digging
into lives of others, I decided best to remove my more personal info.
I apologise Voix.

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posted August 01, 2017 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Lindaland! ....

B- (from Mother's side.)

I have no conjunctions to my Sumeria from natal planets.

Quincunx to Sun,
Quindecile to Mercury.

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