posted February 10, 2017 06:53 PM            

2. Lie (3550)
Bilk refers more to business dealings. Lie is a more general term. However, I would watch carefully when a person had Lie conjunct a personal part of the chart. I am not saying I would shun the person, in general. I have seen several clients with Lie conjunct a prominent part of the chart. They had abusive homes and needed to lie in order to stay alive. This has been my primary experience with the asteroid Lie, not in nefarious business dealings. However, I present it to you for your consideration.

3.Blewett(22927) One of my clients uses this to see if she should hire certain professionals, such a particular lawyer, for example. She sees the places in which Blewett falls in the synastry chart. You would be very surprised what the chart has to tell you about business dealings. Blewett refers to failing(blowing it) in business dealings, as well as referring to personal failures, when used in the the natal chart.

4.Destinn(6583)
This asteroid refers to destiny. I believe that many interactions are fated. The asteroid Destinn seems to reveal fated encounters.into

5 Chaos(19521)
This little asteroid could prevent a world of hurting. Obviously, no one wants chaos in their business or professional dealings. Plug it into the synastry or composite chart and see what you find.

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posted February 11, 2017 08:27 AM            

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posted February 11, 2017 04:47 PM            

Oh Wow transit Dejanira and Chaos are conjunct right now actually, interesting.

posted February 11, 2017 05:16 PM            

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posted February 11, 2017 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Good suggestions! *I personally have noticed destinn and chaos be significant in transits. Thanks.

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I have never done transits cuz I always thought they would make me too paranoid lol

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posted February 11, 2017 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks H!
My mercury is 21 Gem.

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Its save to say that Mercury can rule online communication and with Chaos and Dejanira there... and add that they keep going retro.

Luckily Dejanira is not slow like Chaos and should be out of your mercury soon at some point this month but chaos will remain on your Mercury though and on my northnode, its slow and it keeps going retro.

posted February 11, 2017 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, E. It makes them more usable! xoox

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posted February 18, 2017 08:04 PM            

Further he has sun conjunct atropos and dejanira but the tightest conjunction is between his northnode and Dejanira!

posted February 18, 2017 08:06 PM            

So how do you make out dejanira in a practical way. How would you describe what this would do, in practical terms, if you can or care to, H?

This Forum feels so peaceful and calm!!

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posted February 18, 2017 08:30 PM            

Atropos in Gemini @23d28 (inevitability, destiny, endings, plutonic theme, force to be reckoned with)
Sun in Gemini @22d55
Northnode in Gemini @20d48 (destiny)
Dejanira in Gemini @19d31 (victim)
Uranus in Gemini @17d53 (media attacks him for being different, Uranus is media and Gemini communication)
Moon in Sagittarius @21d12

All falling nonetheless in his 10H opposing his Moon in the 4H (a true patriot who loves his country)

He is destined to experience victimhood in a public way involving his career evidenced by it all falling in the 10H house specially when you take into account Gemini rules communication and Uranus rules the media and technology. Interestingly enough non mainstream media has his back.

posted February 20, 2017 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Information protects people from the descent into tyranny, false narratives need to be stopped, he might just be the catalyst for change for more honest media with those placements and the way things are playing out.

He is a victim of mainstream media and I hope he brings them down and helps put a stop to their corruption marking a much needed turning point in the history of the media demanding more honest journalism.

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He is a bully, a pathological liar, and so many other things. Stop THEIR corruption?? OMG. I don't know how someone as smart, and empathetic as you usually are, has bought into that.

posted February 20, 2017 08:11 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Information protects people from the descent into tyranny, false narratives need to be stopped, he might just be the catalyst for change for more honest media with those placements and the way things are playing out.

He is a victim of mainstream media and I hope he brings them down and helps put a stop to their corruption marking a much needed turning point in the history of the media demanding more honest journalism.

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The blindness of people is truly, truly scary. How did Hitler come to power? This same blindness. I try to teach people and educate people about the same forces that allowed Hitler to come to power and they get mad at ME, instead of the forces that will hurt THEM. the only answer is that it is a spiritual blindness and nothing can remove it but God. Other than that, it is hopeless.

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posted February 20, 2017 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Ami Trump has dejanira in Gemini at 19d so he recently had his dejanira return and his dejanira conjuncts his Sun and North node and opposes his Moon.

Further he has sun conjunct atropos and dejanira but the tightest conjunction is between his northnode and Dejanira!

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What is a transit here and what is natal, H?

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posted February 20, 2017 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is a transit here and what is natal, H?

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This is all natal:

Atropos in Gemini @23d28 10H
Sun in Gemini @22d55 10H
Northnode in Gemini @20d48 10H
Dejanira in Gemini @19d31 10H
Uranus in Gemini @17d53 10H
Moon in Sagittarius @21d12 4H

But transit Dejanira today is in Gemini at 22d so he had his dejanira return recently and Dejanira is still hitting that stellium for him, Dejanira is hitting his Sun exact today for example.

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posted February 21, 2017 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The blindness of people is truly, truly scary. How did Hitler come to power? This same blindness. I try to teach people and educate people about the same forces that allowed Hitler to come to power and they get mad at ME, instead of the forces that will hurt THEM. the only answer is that it is a spiritual blindness and nothing can remove it but God. Other than that, it is hopeless.

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