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BlessedAreTheWarlike
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posted April 24, 2017 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlessedAreTheWarlike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Natal venus is in the 12th house(Libra), and it is conjuncts my natal swindle(Libra/12th house). Would this mean that I have a tendency TO Swindle? Or to BE swindled?

I also read in multiple places that Venus in the 12th would represent "hidden" relationships, or relationships that are kept private to the native. Would this represent that I keep my swindling on the down low? Or that I tend to swindle those who I establish relationships with, without them knowing? Im just having trouble interpreting this, and would like assistance or outside input.

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posted April 24, 2017 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be a subconscious thing. It might show up in a relationship track record so that it could be estimated more precisely, although it could be overridden with free will.

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mirage29
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posted April 24, 2017 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is natural giving and taking in every relation. With this asteroid, you'll have better information for yourself as you observe transits.

The asteroid might 'highlight' the things you could encounter in your life.

Venus in the 12th can tend to be taken advantage of. ~

Also, with asteroids conjunct a planet, you'll want to pay extra attention to the way the planet in that sign, and in that house works.

Remember too, that there are probably 7 or 8 other asteroids touching your Venus, which could alter the meaning or enhance it...

IF you are not (by nature) a 'swindling' type of person, then I wouldn't worry whether or not you "secretly" were? Many people who study astrology are in it TO improve themselves. Give yourself credit for that. Personally, I don't think you would probably be "asking" this question IF you WERE one?

Here's some information on Venus in 12th House .... Think about it, and observe whether you think it's true or not?

(Depends on how old you are, for the ability to truly discern and have a 'feel' for how much the information resonates with you or not.)
http://www.thedarkpixieastrology.com/the-12th-house.html
(chose this site at random; direct quotes)

Natal Venus in the 12th House
With your natal Venus in your 12th house, you can get lost in love.
You have to work hard to keep your identity separate from your partner.
You let people take advantage of you {{as long as you believe they love you,}} and {you} need to stand up for yourself.
You can be attracted to all types of people, and are highly compassionate.
You want a karmic connection to your partner, looking for a soul mate.
You may feel like you have to make sacrifices for love,--- but you give up too much.
You can keep your affection to yourself when in public, and prefer to keep things behind closed doors.
It may be hard for you to open up about love, and you may seem quite shy with matters of the heart.

12th House in Libra??
You have a hard time working with other people, and taking on a partner isn’t recommended for you.
You may seem like someone who does everything alone, but when comfortable, you can be romantic and diplomatic.
You need to put yourself out there more.

/endQuote
http://sasstrology.com/2014/12/the-12th-house-venus-woman.html


Study more about 12th house Venus, her aspects; the conditions of your 2nd and 7th houses. Also Taurus in your chart (your H7??).


**btw, What's the story behind you choosing your username?

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posted April 24, 2017 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great question. I think you may be swindled because Venus is a yin planet, feminine, and they are receptive. Nessus conj Venus seems to be abused in a relationship. Mars conjunct Nessus seems to be an abuser. Mars is a yang/masculine planet.

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BlessedAreTheWarlike
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posted April 24, 2017 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlessedAreTheWarlike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
There is natural giving and taking in every relation. With this asteroid, you'll have better information for yourself as you observe transits.

The asteroid might 'highlight' the things you could encounter in your life.

Venus in the 12th can tend to be taken advantage of. ~

Also, with asteroids conjunct a planet, you'll want to pay extra attention to the way the planet in that sign, and in that house works.

Remember too, that there are probably 7 or 8 other asteroids touching your Venus, which could alter the meaning or enhance it...

IF you are not (by nature) a 'swindling' type of person, then I wouldn't worry whether or not you "secretly" were? Many people who study astrology are in it TO improve themselves. Give yourself credit for that. Personally, I don't think you would probably be "asking" this question IF you WERE one?

Here's some information on Venus in 12th House .... Think about it, and observe whether you think it's true or not?

(Depends on how old you are, for the ability to truly discern and have a 'feel' for how much the information resonates with you or not.)
http://www.thedarkpixieastrology.com/the-12th-house.html
(chose this site at random; direct quotes)

[b]Natal Venus in the 12th House
With your natal Venus in your 12th house, you can get lost in love.
You have to work hard to keep your identity separate from your partner.
You let people take advantage of you {{as long as you believe they love you,}} and {you} need to stand up for yourself.
You can be attracted to all types of people, and are highly compassionate.
You want a karmic connection to your partner, looking for a soul mate.
You may feel like you have to make sacrifices for love,--- but you give up too much.
You can keep your affection to yourself when in public, and prefer to keep things behind closed doors.
It may be hard for you to open up about love, and you may seem quite shy with matters of the heart.

12th House in Libra??
You have a hard time working with other people, and taking on a partner isn’t recommended for you.
You may seem like someone who does everything alone, but when comfortable, you can be romantic and diplomatic.
You need to put yourself out there more.

/endQuote
http://sasstrology.com/2014/12/the-12th-house-venus-woman.html


Study more about 12th house Venus, her aspects; the conditions of your 2nd and 7th houses. Also Taurus in your chart (your H7??).


**btw, What's the story behind you choosing your username?

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Thank you so much for the reply, and most of what you have listed in your information, I have read, and relate to quite a lot.
Yes Taurus is in my seventh house, and I have Saturn in Gemini, in the 7th house. In my second house is Sagittarius, with my moon, Pluto and chiron. Ive found that I REALLY shouldnt get married before my saturn return, and yes, I do struggle with relationships.
Venus aspects trines uranus, neptune, jupiter, saturn, and sextiles Pluto. Such a heavily influenced planet she is!

As for the username, I just liked the sound of it, if that makes sense. It is a biblical reference, which is ironic for me, since Im not christian, but a Wiccan. And wiccans are a peaceful kind of people.

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mirage29
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posted April 24, 2017 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlessedAreTheWarlike:

Thank you so much for the reply, and most of what you have listed in your information, I have read, and relate to quite a lot.

Yes Taurus is in my seventh house,
and I have Saturn in Gemini, in the 7th house.

In my second house is Sagittarius, with my moon, Pluto and chiron.

I've found that I REALLY shouldn't get married before my saturn return, and yes, I do struggle with relationships.

Venus aspects trines uranus, neptune, jupiter, saturn, and sextiles Pluto.
Such a heavily influenced planet she is!

As for the username, I just liked the sound of it, if that makes sense.
It is a biblical reference, which is ironic for me, since I'm not christian, but a Wiccan.
And wiccans are a peaceful kind of people.[/B]


Glad you liked it.

I read that Saturn in the 7th is one of the positions that delays marriage too ... so, if that's happening, do not 'sweat' it at all.

All is as it 'should' be? Your Venus is going to need some Time, maybe, to really get the feeling of assuredness and security that's important to her (Taurus H7). Stay relaxed and know that with Saturn it's not denial but 'delay'?

Saturn is also very enduring. With work (at communicating what YOU Venus H12 want, and drawing boundaries for what you don't. ref 1st article url).

Your other Venus aspects sound soooo powerful-cool! Maybe she'll draw some soulmate relationships with you (soulmate, not always easy) that can enrich what you do. ... Again, take caution about falling in love and not really 'seeing' who that person is? ... Chiron in H2... your 'possessions', and your Self-Worth and Self-Esteem wounds.

It's not what you 'have' but Who You Are that gives you Worth.

I'll throw in wish and hope for you too, that you WILL make tons of money for your own self (by yourself), and that you'll have enough stability (Saturn) that IF you were you to be 'swindled' then you wouldn't miss that much of your possessions. That it would more be a hurt to your pride and esteem maybe, designed to humble and not utterly crush. To give you Wisdom, and to allow you to Heal others that this happened to.

Do you have talents in art or architecture?

Wishing you Stability, and Honest partners!
Song for your Taurus 7th Cusp... with Saturn.
http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/02/saturn-in-7th-house/

(music) I Can Love You Like That (John Michael Montgomery) [3:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q7jtLRjxzI


Username?? I thought the scripture says 'Peacemakers'? Blessed are the Peacemakers?? hahaha.. !!

And yes, I do know that wiccans can be very peaceful...
Motto: Do No Harm...

Have Fun! *grin*

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BlessedAreTheWarlike
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posted April 25, 2017 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlessedAreTheWarlike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Glad you liked it.

I read that Saturn in the 7th is one of the positions that delays marriage too ... so, if that's happening, do not 'sweat' it at all.

All is as it 'should' be? Your Venus is going to need some Time, maybe, to really get the feeling of assuredness and security that's important to her (Taurus H7). Stay relaxed and know that with Saturn it's not denial but 'delay'?

Saturn is also very enduring. With work (at communicating what YOU Venus H12 want, and drawing boundaries for what you don't. ref 1st article url).

Your other Venus aspects sound soooo powerful-cool! Maybe she'll draw some soulmate relationships with you (soulmate, not always easy) that can enrich what you do. ... Again, take caution about falling in love and not really 'seeing' who that person is? ... Chiron in H2... your 'possessions', and your Self-Worth and Self-Esteem wounds.

It's not what you 'have' but Who You Are that gives you Worth.

I'll throw in wish and hope for you too, that you WILL make tons of money for your own self (by yourself), and that you'll have enough stability (Saturn) that IF you were you to be 'swindled' then you wouldn't miss that much of your possessions. That it would more be a hurt to your pride and esteem maybe, designed to humble and not utterly crush. To give you Wisdom, and to allow you to Heal others that this happened to.

Do you have talents in art or architecture?

Wishing you Stability, and Honest partners!
Song for your Taurus 7th Cusp... with Saturn.
http://theastrologyplacemembership.com/2011/02/saturn-in-7th-house/

(music) I Can Love You Like That (John Michael Montgomery) [3:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q7jtLRjxzI


Username?? I thought the scripture says 'Peacemakers'? Blessed are the Peacemakers?? hahaha.. !!

And yes, I do know that wiccans can be very peaceful...
Motto: Do No Harm...

Have Fun! *grin*


Oh I see I see. Thank you bunches for this! And thank you for wishing me well

I had originally found the phrase "Beati Bellicosi" in another forum, and when I searched for the translation, it turned out to be "Blessed are the Warriors" Other translations were "peacemakers" or "the Warlike"
I chose "warlike" because Bellicosi was similar to "Belicoso(Warlike in spanish)"
And yeah, the original scripture said blessed are the peacemakers, but I didnt realize the biblical reference until I googled the english translation.

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mirage29
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posted April 25, 2017 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlessedAreTheWarlike:
Oh I see I see. Thank you bunches for this! And thank you for wishing me well

I had originally found the phrase "Beati Bellicosi" in another forum, and when I searched for the translation, it turned out to be "Blessed are the Warriors" Other translations were "peacemakers" or "the Warlike"
I chose "warlike" because Bellicosi was similar to "Belicoso(Warlike in spanish)"
And yeah, the original scripture said blessed are the peacemakers, but I didnt realize the biblical reference until I googled the english translation.


I like Warlike . Good Choice.

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