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hypatia238
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posted June 01, 2017 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Time of discovery unknown

What do you think Beautiful_Light?!!

Its a Romeo and Juliet asteroid! You see it? The grand trine!?

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Stellia
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posted June 02, 2017 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this!

As a random aside (and before it gets moved, as I suspect it might, to asteroid astrology!), I love that the discovery sun is opposite mine, that its pluto is bang on my venus, and that its chiron is bang on my natal valentine-MC conjunction.

Raises the discussion about realising which asteroids are personally important to you, and what impact that has, if any.

But... will save that for a separate thread!

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hypatia238
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posted June 02, 2017 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stellia that is excellent food for thought! That venus conjunct jupiter in Scorpio conjuncts my AC, maybe you are unto something..

We usually use the asteroid valentine in synastry mainly so decided to place it here...

I do have some things to say about the discovery chart but wanted to wait for others to participate first...

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posted June 02, 2017 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a good point actually about synastry use

For me, not just the venus-jupiter but also the merc-jupiter are great - expansive love, and expansive communication - both absolutely essential in that selfless unconditional love.

And yep. The Saturn north node conjunction. Did someone say Karmic? 😁 But then true love absolutely changes lives and is like an accelerant for soul progression.

Other things of interest, Venus, Jupiter and mercury inconjunct Pluto. Transformative and disruptive potentially.

Valentine in Aries - that kind of innocence about getting your needs met, like a baby; or a cherub.

And Venus sextile agapenor - a cheeky little nod to unconditional love. And Valentine sextile Neptune - the only big, tight Neptune aspect at first glance.

Looking forward to seeing what everyone else sees!

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hypatia238
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posted June 02, 2017 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love your insight on the discovery chart Stellia...

Good catch about venus sextile Agapenor although that is a very wide sextile but agapenor also forms a grand trine with the asteroids Pyramus and Thisbe which are Romeo and Juliet!

Further there is a hugeee stellium in Scorpio with its tightest aspect involving venus conjunct jupiter, then add that grand trine involving agapenor, thisbe and pyramus...Talk about loving intensely with all your heart

The stellium in Scorpio includes atropos, sun, venus, jupiter, mercury, eros and mars! Plus we have moon in Leo trine valentine in aries.. Moon in leo gives that eternal youth, playful nature, in love with love, childlike innocence and as you pointed out further reinforced with that trine to valentine in aries, add the agapenor, pyramus, thisbe grand trine and we have the markers of a true hopeless romantic. All that Scorpio intensity too!

Now yes then we have that curious Saturn conjunct northnode which makes me think that valentine's goal in synastry is to use those intense feelings of unconditional love that can lead to selfless sacrifices and making decisions that dont come from the ego but from a place of love to burn off a lot of karma at once the two of you may share.

The fastest way to eliminate karma after all is with the power of love!

I am fascinated by this asteroid now even more..

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posted June 03, 2017 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting observations, both of you, and I like what you pointed out about the sextiles, Stellia . I didn't know Pyramus and Thisbe=Romeo and Juliet, but that's really neat! Totally a story of fated, unconditional love. The stellium in Scorpio definitely shows the transformative nature of Valentine and the thing that stands out to me most is the North Node conjunct Saturn. It's totally an asteroid that brings about a resolution of karma between people so that they can go towards their destinies, whether that destiny is within the relationship itself, or elsewhere after the karma has been resolved.

I know the time is uncertain but I can't help but be reminded of my guy's chart which has Moon conj Vertex on the 8th house cusp in Leo, with Valentine also in Leo

Fascinating topic but I *will* have to move it to the Asteroid forum!

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hypatia238
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posted June 03, 2017 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Very interesting observations, both of you, and I like what you pointed out about the sextiles, Stellia . I didn't know Pyramus and Thisbe=Romeo and Juliet, but that's really neat! Totally a story of fated, unconditional love. The stellium in Scorpio definitely shows the transformative nature of Valentine and the thing that stands out to me most is the North Node conjunct Saturn. It's totally an asteroid that brings about a resolution of karma between people so that they can go towards their destinies, whether that destiny is within the relationship itself, or elsewhere after the karma has been resolved.

I know the time is uncertain but I can't help but be reminded of my guy's chart which has Moon conj Vertex on the 8th house cusp in Leo, with Valentine also in Leo

Fascinating topic but I *will* have to move it to the Asteroid forum!


I really loved how you interpreted that northnode conjunct saturn, beautifully put! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this discovery chart, truly appreciate it.

I am going to add the agapenor discovery chart to this thread and would love to hear both of your thoughts on it.

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posted June 03, 2017 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Beautiful_Light,

Greek versions of Romeo and Juliet:
(14871) Pyramus
(88) Thisbe
http://astrosavvyblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/17/asteroid-88-thisbe-asteroid-14871-pyra mus/

In your natal chart, Thisbe and Pyramus are influences that would be more telling when activated by transit. When activated, Thisbe or Pyramus indicate a time when love, attention or attraction just won’t be enough. This can relate to work or other projects as well as romance, anything that involves pure passion on your part. You will face hurdles from family members, or authority figures, anyone who has an active say in how your desire is to unfold and hit blockages whichever way you turn.

The outcome of this connection is death. In the natal chart, one can surmise that the journey which begins under the influence of Thisbe or Pyramus, whilst tough on the emotions, will ultimately bring closure to old habits or thought processes that are hindering you, and where you are unaware that they are doing so.

Possible Keywords: Overwhelming attraction, resistance from others regards a desire, an ending that changes your life, a meeting that has a purpose, a time when you won’t get what you want, a reflection situation.

Fascinating, Tr Thisbe is conjuncting my Sun right now and squaring my natal Pyramus conjunct Neptune (5H ruler, 2H co-ruler) conjunct Tr Saturn.

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