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Ami Anne
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Ten “Bad” Asteroids Conjunct the North Node in the Natal Chart

First of all, if you know me, you know that nothing gets me angrier than people who only want “good news” when it comes to their charts. Look around, Dude. Not everything is good. I like to live in the land of reality. If not, we are not sane. This applies to the charts, too. Some aspects are major challenges. These are our topic today.

The North Node is a point that shows our purpose. It is a very, very important point in the natal chart. The ease or difficulty in finding one’s calling will be shown by the North Node and it’s aspects. I am talking about the conjunction today. The conjunction is the strongest aspect. However, to address the other aspects briefly. Trines and sextiles to the NN show ease in finding one’s purpose. Squares and oppositions to the North Node show difficulty in finding one’s calling. Onto the article.

First of all, there are “bad” aspects.These deal with “bad” things in life, such as abuse(Nessus), sadism(Sado), taking advantage of others(Bilk), not telling the truth(Lie) and victimization(Dejanira). The preceding list are just some examples. They show us slices of life that no one really likes. Every person has every asteroid in his chart. The difference is the DOMINANCE of an asteroid.

Let’s look at what are deemed the “bad” asteroids conjunct the North Node.

Nessus Conjunct the North Node
In this case, the native will, likely, struggle with the desire to abuse. On the positive side, I see Nessus as someone who won’t let himself be victimized. If I had to choose to have Nessus conjunct the North Node or Dejanira( the victim asteroid) conjunct the North Node, I would choose Nessus. However, the Nessus/North Node native will, likely, be someone who makes people angry and makes others desire to seek revenge. There is something about a strong Nessus that makes aware people steer clear due to a subconscious understanding that trouble lies beneath the surface.

Dejanira Conjunct the North Node

Dejanira is, probably, the saddest asteroid of all. She is the victim. I have seen the victim theme play out over and over in my career as an astrologer. This victimization is not the fault of the native. I think that God can overcome charts. However, usually, the person has to play out their difficult patterns i.e get burned by them. For the person with Dejanira conjunct the North Node, I am sure I am not telling them anything they do not know. Most people are happy to discover that their struggles are not their fault, but due to their life blueprint, which is the natal chart.

Sedna Conjunct the North North Node


Sedna is extreme betrayal by the father and, later, the husband. Sedna is a very sad story. For the native with Sedna conjunct the North Node, I don’t think what I am saying right now is a surprise. She needs to understand what happened before she can move on. I have an article which tells the story of Sedna. Please, read that, if you want the specific details of her story.

Bilk Conjunct the North Node

Bilk is what you think. It is taking advantage of others for material gain. This is not stealing from the cash register as much as charging too much for a service. This asteroid shows a tendency to take advantage of all people in the life of the native. I have a friend with Bilk conjunct the Sun. I like many things about him, but I do not trust him to do any jobs for me, even though he has a business which does the kind of work I need. If I ever need his services, I contract a price from the beginning and know, even then, that I will be taken advantage of. I tell this story to show the practical workings of the Bilk asteroid. For the native who has Bilk conjunct the North Node, bilking people is, likely, a life theme. I know people will get angry when I say this, but read an airy fairy astrologer if you don’t like me.

Nemesis Conjunct the North Node
Nemesis is hidden enemies. This is not a very pleasant thing. Hence, the native may have people come into one’s life that seem like friend, but undermine. If you have Nemesis conjunct the North Node, this is, probably, not a surprise to you.

Eris Conjunct the North Node

I may conjure up my friend, Dan, with this entry. He and I disagree about Eris. He thinks Eris is a brave and fearless warrior. I think Eris is extreme annoyance. I will give to Dan that Eris will fight for that in which he believes. However, Eris is so annoying that he can win the fight just because people want him to leave. I have found that people who have Eris conjunct the North Node are sooooo annoying that you have to hold your arm back, so that you do not hit them in the face. Do I jest? Not really.

Chiron Conjunct the North Node

Chiron is not an asteroid, but I will include it here because it is very hard to have Chiron conjunct the North Node. Chiron brings a theme of pain. No one wants this or chooses this. Remember that degrees are very important when dealing with the North Node. The closer the aspect, the more intense.

Medusa Conjunct the North Node

Medusa is a tease. I really don’t like to see Medusa in the charts because I don’t like this asteroid. It seems to play out, just as the myth decrees. Medusa teases men to follow her and then she punishes them. We have all seen women like this. Medusa is, likely, the culprit. To answer the question of how she plays out in the chart of a male? It seems to be in the same way.

Typhoon Conjunct the North Node

Lately, I have seen this asteroid play out in charts. It acts as does a natural typhoon. The life of the person seems to be chaotic and out of control, through little fault of their own.

Kaali Conjunct the North Node

Kaali is the body energies. Kaali does not do well when it is in a dominant place, such as the Ascendant, MC or North Node. The body energy should be in a deeper, more internal place. When Kaali conjuncts an exterior part of the chart, the native seems to lose energy easily i.e feel very drained by people and events.

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posted December 10, 2017 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted July 29, 2019 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have chiron sitting at 2 gemini, between my ascendant/nn at 6 gemini and sun at 22 taurus. My life has been on the difficult side and my father died when I was 16 (drugs) and my mother is bat **** crazy but I don't see my life as being full of pain. Nor am I deformed lol. I've read chiron conjunct the ascendant can go that way. I do have a tendon disorder that causes them to tear easily and I've always been on the skinny side. Chiron also sits at the apex of a yod with Neptune and pluto/moon in my chart too. With chiron a heavy hitter in my chart I've never really felt that it's caused so much drama in my life. I guess it boils down to my attitude towards it. I could definitely write a book about all of the crazy crap that's happened to me but all in all, I see so many others living in far worse circumstances.

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posted July 29, 2019 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You seem very sweet and I felt an immediate connection with you!

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posted July 29, 2019 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You seem very sweet and I felt an immediate connection with you!


Aww thank you, I read your site a lot when I'm on an astrology google frenzy 😂 😂

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posted July 30, 2019 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have nearly a few of those somewhere prominent in my chart but not on my north node (my north node has some a couple ****** fixed stars though baten kaitos and kurdah)

nessus and kaali on my sun, eris on my moon/descendant, medusa on my venus

cant relate to the way the asteroids are described for the most part though i will say your friend is wrong about eris considering she's associated with discord and the unpleasantness should just be a given

edit: i can say if you're not talking about abuse of individuals when it comes to nessus and resisting urges but on a grander scale of having larger destructive urges (my sun is also conjunct sisyphus, tyche, rudra and on regulus) then i do have those (but not in a purposeless sort of manner)

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posted July 30, 2019 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Eris got an unfair twist. When she was discovered, they realized that there are way more dwarf planets than first thought and she took down Pluto's status. That's a pretty powerful thing to do but, she did cause quite a ruckus in the astrological community because of it. I'd say she fits both descriptions, her power can cause discord when it steps on everyone else's toes.

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posted July 30, 2019 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Eris conjunct my ascendant/Midheaven midpoint along with asteroid spirit, black moon lilith, and christ comet in Aries 11H so I quite like her 😊

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posted July 30, 2019 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I have Eris conjunct my ascendant/Midheaven midpoint along with asteroid spirit, black moon lilith, and christ comet in Aries 11H so I quite like her 😊

if she was on your descendant/moon you'd probably feel different

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posted July 30, 2019 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so honored you read my site, Don. We have a connection. I can feel that! You can get in a real frenzy there since I have thousands of articles

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posted July 30, 2019 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have dejainera conjunct north node but not sure what that means. I have a few tough placements so doesn’t really surprise me haha.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
if she was on your descendant/moon you'd probably feel different

Oh I'm sure.

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posted July 31, 2019 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Oh I'm sure.

it's terrible lol

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posted July 31, 2019 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it's terrible lol

How does it manifest?

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posted August 01, 2019 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
How does it manifest?

roller coaster relationships and a tendency to go for people who really make **** difficult instead of easy

i find very plutonic people attractive and tend to mostly engage in relationships with pluto contacts, it's not on purpose it's just a pattern i've noticed

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I have Eris near my Mercury/Venus/Moon/BML stellium. It also trines Uranus along with the stellium.

I’m not sure if I’d relate to Eris’ “drama” descriptions, I’m quite diplomatic and considerate with others. I also tend to prefer harmonization rather than discord.
On the other hand, I can relate to her being disruptive, in a sense of being passionate and thinking differently. Not conforming to what doesn’t work and creatively thinking of how to change things, even thought I do respect rules and systems and see the importance of it to a degree. As someone in IT, systems and structure means a lot to me. Just as innovation and disrupting what doesn’t work.

As for Chiron, I wouldn’t reduce it to just pain and wound. It is a mix of Saturn/Chiron kind of energy. Chiron I would relate it to research, science and analytic mind. Very critical and analytic.
It can also become a mentor after going through things itself.
I have Chiron on MC and these are what I can relate to.

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posted August 13, 2019 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dejanira--NN can be someone whom others take advantage of over and over until it feels like a theme
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