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areesquivel
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posted January 08, 2018 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My SO has this placement in 7th house in Sagittarius, I wonder if this means that for a marriage partner he wants someone more on the "equal" side, don't know if I make myself clear, like a partner at the same level at him, I've heard him say things that he doesn't like "Princess" girls to date but don't know if is that aspect talking. Someone has this or can explain?


EDIT. I just realize says Litith but I meant Lilith! sorry! my computer was no good.

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mirage29
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posted January 08, 2018 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Areesquivel ... Please consider... don't ignore *red flags* and defend him using astrology to make excuses for his 'bad/rude/off-putting behaviors?'

I wasn't there but... could he have just given you a subtle insult?

Is he really that conceited and self-centered???

tsk, *snap* ~Gurlfriend??...
Really.?
Oh, YOU gotta do Better than that one!!

Nahhhhhhh LOL. j/k

Your Juno is in square-element to his.
Squares are challenges.
Juno describes some of what 'you' are looking for in a partner, as well as describing yourself.
Juno can describe what happens when things go 'bad' or wrong in a relationship--
Yes, Power Struggles-- repressed rage.. and learning the power of consensus (how to agree)

There's a possibility you could end up in tense POWER STRUGGLES.. with intensely nasty retaliations if you break up, or whenever he doesn't get his way.

(Of course, we're only going by his one placement here, and making cold statements-- doesn't include any maturity or mastery he might have.)

*read* Looking at book Asteroid Goddesses by Demetra George and Douglas Bloch.

One of the things Juno represents are the emotional and psychological needs that motivate us to see marital union.

Juno needs to be able to 'merge' with the other person.

POWER IN RELATIONSHIPS p.162
In the search for ideal Libran partnership,
Juno individuals aspire to create a relationship that is equal, fair, and reciprocal. However, what they often experience are the imbalances of unjust relationships.
JUNO themes indicate
the power struggles, disappointments, and conflicts encountered
in the attempt to align 'ideals' with 'reality'.

JUNO Sagittarius
is looking for
intellectual stimulation,
that you agree with his belief system, and
that you would share the 'same vision' as his... for having a future together.

{{OR if not, you could find yourself with someone who has a}}

{quote}..
"Rigid insistence
on own belief, religious fanaticism,
or, 'inflated expectations' for the future ...
when a unifying-vision is not shared."
p.172

JUNO in the 7th
place their primary emphasis on
the value of "marital, business, or other intimate partnerships."

The need 'to cooperate with others',
and
'form lifelong primary relationships'
becomes a major focus throughout the lifetime.
The most important relationship interactions will occur in one-to-one encounters with others.
p.172
____________
back to general descriptions, p.162; subparagraphs under 'Power In Relationships'.
quoting...
1) The Giving Away of Power --
Juno gave her power over to Jupiter,
and then raged and retaliated when he used it to oppress her.
Likewise, many wives give themselves over to their husbands,
and then struggle to overcome their feelings of powerlessness... or resign themselves to the 'captive state.'
{mythology}.....
Juno and Jupiter also engaged in a variety of sadomasochistic punishments.
Juno tied and bound Jupiter to his bed with leather thongs and mocked him;
he retaliated by suspending her by her wrists from the heavens, and weighting her ankles with heavy anvils.
.. Men and women use both physical and emotional devices to 'imprison and torture' each other.
.. Astrologically--
Juno is an indicator of the 'subjugation and revenge' that follows the relinquishing of person power, and can predispose an individual to participate in self-defeating power struggles.

2) Subtle Manipulation --
If a Juno individual is denied overt access to power,
he or she may attempt to gain control of their life covertly, through the use of subtle manipulation.
Such tactics may include the withholding of food or sex; using guilt, children, family, or flattery;
or attempting to foil, trick, or deceive one's partner.
Historically, women have most often had to resort to these tactics;
hence, Juno wives have been labeled,..., as sneaky, conniving, manipulative, and dishonest.
Once the Juno person addresses the power imbalance in his or her relatiosnip, however,
these tactics are no longer the only means for control.

3) Children as Power
4) Projection and Repression
5) Juno and The Powerless

{{{buy the book! LOL}}}

In conclusion,
Juno symbolizes both 'the need for relationship', and, 'the refusal to accept' the inequality and injustice that can result from 'poor communication' between the partners.

The weapons [used] to fight battles are--
rage, revenge, plotting, and being a shrew.

In essence, {quote inside quote}
"What Hera/Juno means is
the strength NOT to pretend
that some 'lesser gift' IS the fulfillment,
nor.. to deny the longing."
fn.13

{ref'ed fn.13 from Christine Downing's book...}


~*

JUNO in Pisces,
in your 4th house
..trine Mercury Cancer
..trine Pluto Scorpio

Asc mid-Scorpio
Sun Cancer
Venus Cancer
Moon Pisces {trine Sun}

Mars Leo {square Pluto}

JUNO in Pisces ..
desire to realize their 'highest ideals'
through their relationship.

Complete faith,
commitment,
reverence toward-and-from their partner
is what gives meaning and value.

Disillusionment,
withdrawals,
escapism into fantasy and self-deception,
martyrdom and victimization ...
[may] result
when these idealistic expectations are not met.

JUNO in the 4th House p. 173-174
represents the need for a secure relationship as the foundation for the rest of life's activities.
This can be an 'idealized' version of "mate as nurturer" -- one who provides (or needs providing for) home, food, comfort, and support.
//
*red flag* -- ^ <<ref the 'Princess' remark he made? *sad*>>
//cont'd
The most important relationship interactions will occur in the area of one's personal, private domain, or with the family.


Juno Pisces trine Mercury Cancer H8
trine Pluto Scorpio in your H12.

Juno-Mercury (trine) p.178
.. the capacity to articulate important ideas, concerns, and feelings to one's partner.
Such clarity in daily communications contributes to sharing and intimacy.
This is an excellent aspect for those in the communications professions-- such as teachers, counselors, salespeople, etc.

Juno-Mercury individuals
are often attracted to
mental and intellectual (i.e. mercurial) types.
If the projection is overdone--
the partner may manifest as
'rationalizing, detached, or cold'.
The resolution of these challenges lies in
learning how to listen 'without judgment' to another's point of view.
Then you can clearly and impartially express your own response,
thereby engaging in meaningful communication.

Juno-Pluto (trine) p.183-184
... indicate the capacity to experience deep personal transformation through a partnership.
These individuals can transmute the emotional and sexual intensity of their interactions for healing, strengthening, and personal regeneration.
They also may exert a powerful influence over others or use the partnership energies to engage in Plutonian activities, e.g., peak experiences, research, healing, etc...

Juno-Pluto individuals
may be attracted to
intense, secretive, powerful, or occult types.
IF the projection is overdone--
the partner may be 'dictatorial, violent, or destructive.'
The resolution of these challenges lies in transforming personal power into mutual trust and fusion.
Learning to forgive oneself and one's partner
will bring about the much-needed healing.

~*

Looking at your chart.. I can see how you'd be attracted right now.

It's really up to you--

read/consider the astrology yes,
but let your GUT your Heart decide--
INCLUDING the counsel and feedback of your real-life people (friends, relatives) in your choices. Being happy in life is important-- more than just having flings. Treasure the counsel of those who know you (and him).

Then, gently, YOU make the final decisions.

Take excellent care of yourself. *Heart* *Rainbow*

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areesquivel
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posted January 09, 2018 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you @mirage29 for your kind words and always responding to my questions, I appreciate your words.

That conversation happened way early in the relationship and yes I was like hum that's not nice to say lol, though I consider myself a very strong girl.

I notice both Junos are in square, I do feel we sometimes have this power struggles, I do believe that his Juno conjunct Lilith talks about equal treatment and that's something I strongly believe, don't want to be treated differently just cause I'm a girl, I come from a matriarchy though he comes from a religious family which contradicts a bit my beliefs I know he believes in equal treatment and he always gets mad whenever he hears someone is saying a girl can't express her sexuality freely, that's something that I like about him, he's always defending that.

"Looking at your chart.. I can see how you'd be attracted right now.

It's really up to you--

read/consider the astrology yes,
but let your GUT your Heart decide--
INCLUDING the counsel and feedback of your real-life people (friends, relatives) in your choices. Being happy in life is important-- more than just having flings. Treasure the counsel of those who know you (and him).

Then, gently, YOU make the final decisions."

This is very true, ALWAYS pay attention to my gut feeling first, and really this has helped me through my life, this 2018 is all about not letting toxic people around me, been working hard on personal issues that need to put myself first now!

Thank you so much.

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mirage29
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posted January 09, 2018 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Areesquivel.

I appreciate the good 'real-life/real-person' feedback you gave on the dynamics in the relationship between you and he, and for more validation about the function of that asteroid relevant to 'belief systems' with your Juno Sag boyfriend.

Always a pleasure answering your questions, when I can.

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