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Fionapineapple
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posted March 01, 2018 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would you read transit Chiron conjunct my natal Psyche in Aries 5th house?

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posted March 01, 2018 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... my 2-cents?

Chiron right now is in the last degrees of Pisces. Would now be finishing your 4th or the start of 5th House?

Chiron, an immortal, was a physician healer and astrologer.
He had received a wound (in his thigh) that was so crippling painful, that he bargained with the gods to allow him to become a mortal so that he could end his life, eventually.


Psyche .. according to some astrologers, IS 'the wound' even trauma. The place we received the wound or trauma.

Chiron .. wants to come alongside, and highlight that wound, so that the toxins in it can become washed, salved, and gain some health.

Chiron was also an 'abandoned' child, an orphan.
{ref below}

Aries .. the Initiator, the spark, the starter, your go-power, your identity, the one who gets things to get-going, the seed of promise that things are still alive after winter is through.

If Aries is in your 5th House,
your Psyche (wound) is in area having to do with your Creativity, the 'expressing' of your talents and abilities, your risk-taking ability {gambles}.

It's the house of Romance ..
"that feeling which makes us feel special, different, unique, and desired."
(ref. Alan Oken, Houses of the Horoscope)

It's the house of Children and offspring-- things you have Created, (like your offspring) that you see as an outside 'extension' or 'expression' of your self.

Not knowing anything else about your chart, I hope this can help you extract some kind of meaning your own use?

Good article on Chiron.

REF
Astrodienst article
"We Went Back to See the Stars"-- Chiron the Soul Wanderer.
Milla Basso - first published by Infinity Astrological Magazine, 2017
Posted, February 15, 2018.
- http://www.astro.com/astrology/iam_article180215_e.htm

REF Alan Oken, Houses of the Horoscope
- http://www.amazon.com/Houses-Horoscope-Introduction-Alan-Oken/dp/0892541563


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posted March 01, 2018 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transit Chiron is conjunct my natal Psyche in Pisces too... I don't know what to say about this.

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posted March 01, 2018 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arcturus... Sometimes a transit will go by without anything happening at all. Depends on what is going on with you.

Sometimes a transit can be extremely lighter simple and shallow.

I know that I've "braced-up" for things that I thought would be awful... and, it was incredibly very 'easy'. Worked its OWN self out with very little action required from me, except, to have observed it.

Sort of a little like this

(topic) Roommate Agreement Time Travel (clip from TV show 'The Big Bang Theory') [0:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0qDy0T5WXM

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posted March 01, 2018 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked up the next mercury retrograde that will around the end of this month and I saw that placement... Which is kind of a relief BC I had a transit Chiron conjunct my Sun in Pisces for the longest. And I feel like the things that have been happening around me got me feeling low and ineffective as a person. I do art but I lost sight of what's special about it or about me. And I ran from relationships so I guess maybe this coming into my 5th house is to go over that BC when Chiron reaches my Psyche which like 2 degrees or so in Aries..it will also be opposite my Nessus which is trine my Venus/Isis/Osiris stellium at the beginning of Aquarius

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posted March 03, 2018 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That feeling of low and ineffective is like a drought. Don't give up.. it will eventually break open. {{ }}

Another approach to the asteroids

16 Psyche --
the personification of the human soul,
as well as
the object of romantic love

2060 Chiron --
strong healing potential.

IC -- {hidden karmic roots}

ref. Griga Zsuzsanna
The Dreamweaver

(topic) Nessus transiting Pisces (Jean Wiley, astrologer) [52:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_wBAgkN7BA

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posted March 05, 2018 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank u Mirage! These are great.

Another question...because at the end of July Mercury will be retrograde in Leo which is conjunct my South Node and midheaven ..what are your thoughts on that?

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posted March 05, 2018 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage : I think every transit influence us, but not necessarily consciously maybe... Or maybe consciously but we don't know how to interpret the meaning of two planets / asteroids / asteroid + planet that are conjunct... and to locate this in ourselves. (locate : right verb ?)

Logically, each transit counts.

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posted March 07, 2018 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 08, 2018 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 08, 2018 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arcturus

Thanks for the interesting charts and theories, Secret Geek! I really enjoyed doing the composite charts when I first began studying. To me, they made sense!

Blessings Fiona ..

tSouthnode crossing your MC / with the tNN in 4th, will shift your focus to H9/H3, achieving a fulcrum balance point between the two urges.

As Above H9, So-Same Below H3
H9 Faith, Foreign matters, International Commerce, Higher Learning, Higher Spirituality.

H3 Your attitudes, your mindsets; your siblings, your locality.

tSN touching planets may 'bring' people back into your life whom you have known before... either in this lifetime, or a past life 're'-acquaintance for purpose of exchange.
haha, maybe even as an exchange-student for a while?

Ever think about hosting or being that host?

Make it art-related?
Maybe they can give you some lessons?

okay... this scripture just flashed in my memory.
Whoever receives 'a prophet',
receives
the prophet's reward?

Matthew 10:41-42
New King James Version (NKJV)
41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward.
42 And whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water in the name of a disciple, assuredly, I say to you, he shall by no means lose his reward.”
- http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+10%3A41-42&version=NKJV

{{Leaving that in case it applies some way to someone who would read this}}

So anyways!!

You guys send me on study-jags! LOL

I came across more Chiron materials...

Fiona! When you described how you were feeling about your art? ... 'fits' the fast-approaching new Chiron in Aries transit!

Of course, I hope people have a handle on delineations here?
Can apply to NATAL -- and to Transiting the House.
You apply it to your own "common sense" ..
AND your own knowledge of your life..
with a sprinkling of Good Cheer for yourself.
Not everything is a doom-sentence.
Lift and lighten it, too.

{Maybe Saturn in Cap and Jupiter Scorp is sensing 'heaviness' or 'heavier vibes' ...
Jupiter stations today... to go retro and review Scorpio again till that July turn around 13+ Scorpio, as PART of the New Moon partial Eclipse 20+ Cancer, on July 12/13, 2018 --- followed by FM Total Eclipse 4.45 Aquarius (w Sun Leo), and Mars in retrograde, and Mercury retro Leo....
OKAY, Fiona... I 'see' what your asking.
I'll have to fish around some more.
When things are in retro, chances are they need 'reviewing' later... What seems one way can change. It can be a Good change too-- something you 'needed' to consider. Second chances. That MARS retro will go back to 28 Capricorn, then turn around.

Pay attention to what Mars does as it gets to 28 Capricorn Mid-May.. for a clue.

tUranus moves into Taurus at that time too.

My Aside here ................
*finger's crossed, for heated things in certain areas of the world at that time*
That's Israel's Birthday. Mid-east.
AND Chiron will be at Aries-Point. World-attention.
Aries energy (generally speaking) is "ME" first energy-- lower vibration of 'selfishness' and the wounds caused by 'selfish' me-first, us-first, behaviors??

Let's hope we will have learned the lessons of 'selfLESS-ness' of Chiron Pisces.

Chiron is a Bridge ... from things we experience in concrete reality (Saturn), with Higher Conscious Awakenings (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto)

URANUS
positive, Creates enlightenment, euphoria
negative, chaos and Anarchy

NEPTUNE
positive, Mystical visions and ecstasy
negative, alcoholism and drug abuse

PLUTO ...
positive, deep transformative knowledge
negative, power struggles and perverse sexuality.

May we BE Clairvoyants (Uranus) able to see/perceive in realms beyond the limitations of Saturn.

Let our Hearts open and Serve with Unconditional Love (neptune) fully-realized with the deep knowledge that we are all intertwined.

Lines drawn to demarcate states and regions on a map, are Illusions. Fake.
When a nuke goes off, it has NO respect for Boundarylines, or 'who's FIRST'.
One flash... and if you are 'there' you turn to instant ASH.
Poisoning our Air, our land, our seas, our foods.
PURE-STUPIDITY to think that our species could successfully survive have a War of NUKES. EVERYTHING we knew... GONE.

NO person is a ME-FIRST island. Self-only*Reliance is a lie from the pit of hell -- because truth is we ALL need each other at some point.

It is an Illusion and Lie that we are to exist ONLY to our self. You are not a ME. No.

You are part of the Chain of Life, called 'We'. These little schisms and CUTS in the chain of life, leave us dangerously vulnerable.

end/Quote--- *off soapbox*


I need a food break ... and to go walk for a while.

I'll come back with URLS for above-mentioned material.

And ADD Chiron in Aries, 5th House material.

NO QUOTE -- not done

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posted March 08, 2018 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal chart with the transits for the upcoming Mercury retrograde
http://s261.photobucket.com/user/fionapinapple/media/image.png.html

Let me know if u can see it

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posted March 11, 2018 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Birthday, Fionapineapple! (Mar 10)

Hope you have a Wonderful Year!

(Thanks for providing your chart!)

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posted March 13, 2018 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank u! I hope so too lol

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