posted October 16, 2018 01:17 AM            

i don't really count most asteroids though

posted October 16, 2018 03:25 AM            

But in what way?

posted October 16, 2018 12:07 PM            

My Fantasia is unaspected, how lame .

My partner has it conjunct Nessus trine Mars/Uranus/DC. He likes it when I resist a little.

Maybe it gives you clues into people's kinky side/fantasies.

posted October 17, 2018 09:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Jupitarian:
Yes, what they sounds like (or the myth behind them) will indicate the meaning of the asteroid.

But in what way?

Things can be interpreted in so many different ways, hence the question.

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difficult with lesser known asteroids to find patterns

posted October 19, 2018 03:08 AM            

They will project their own fanatasies and assumptions on the ascendant person, good or bad.

I have this aspect in my natal and people have the most peculiar ideas about me! Some have said that "XX is all good. There is nothing bad. Tru gold. Beautiful soul!" Others have implied that I´m a total a psychopath! Possibly dangerous! Accused me of serious crimes!

I´m like people are most, not bad and not perfect either! Never been involved in any "bad" stuff what so ever! Never violent, not a loudmouth, work hard, don´t drink (or anything worse), well educated...

Please note that the people saying these things don´t really know me at all. Thay are all stangers more or less.

posted October 20, 2018 07:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Jupitarian:
I think perhaps that other people will have problems to see what the ascendant person is all about.

They will project their own fanatasies and assumptions on the ascendant person, good or bad.

I have this aspect in my natal and people have the most peculiar ideas about me! Some have said that "XX is all good. There is nothing bad. Tru gold. Beautiful soul!" Others have implied that I´m a total a psychopath! Possibly dangerous! Accused me of serious crimes!

I´m like people are most, not bad and not perfect either! Never been involved in any "bad" stuff what so ever! Never violent, not a loudmouth, work hard, don´t drink (or anything worse), well educated...

Please note that the people saying these things don´t really know me at all. Thay are all stangers more or less.

It does not make sense...

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I have had somewhat similar experiences.. and my Neptune is conjunct my AC.

Also, I would agree that people who have Fantasia conjunct their AC probably have other people project their fantasy on that person.

On another note, I just checked my chart and found that Fantasia is conjunct my house 8-Virgo moon (also trine my Taurus sun (house 3) as well as Capricorn AC conjunct Uranus and Neptun)

Any ideas maybe?

posted October 20, 2018 08:36 AM            

As a name-asteroid ..

1224 Fantasia
Fantasia Barrino
Fantasia Monique Barrino-Taylor
(born June 30, 1984),
known professionally by her mononym Fantasia,
is an American R&B singer, songwriter, and actress.
She rose to fame as the winner of the third season of the reality television series American Idol in 2004.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasia_Barrino

The wiki article had a note at the top with these words..
Quote-- Inconsistent use of "Taylor" and "Fantasia Jenkins" to refer to the subject throughout the article.

My placements..
31876 Jenkens Pisces 16.41
1224 Fantasia Pisces 16.46
H(3)aquarius
trine Saturn-rx Scorp 16.22 H11
trine Vesta Cancer 17.25 H8

(music) When I Met You (Fantasia) [5:06] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFBxRij1M2c

Never discount the ability to have fantasies, and to dream and imagine. Lots of money can be made from the content of these. Lots of inventions (like the Xerox Copier machine) that serve humanity. Einstein (physics) used to "imagine" himself sitting on a meter-stick (yard-stick) traveling through space at the speed of light-- and he discovered E=mc2 Theory of Relativity.

Name of a Walt Disney Movie from 1940
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasia_(1940_film)
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Disney,_Walt

Quote yt notes--
Walt Disney's timeless masterpiece is an extravaganza of sight and sound!
See the music come to life, hear the pictures burst into song and experience the excitement that is Fantasia over and over!

(music) Fantasia (1940 Walt Disney film) [1:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpKA9n-75tQ

(music) Fantasia 2000 (new 1/1/2000 version, Original Theatrical Trailer, Disney Animation) [2:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sNtKugmzsg

(music) Color of The Wind (composer Alan Menken and lyricist Stephen Schwartz, from Pocohantas) [3:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvvZ1TEQRB8

posted October 20, 2018 08:56 AM            

Neptune, can at times be like a gigantic mirror with a smokey,wobbly surface.

posted October 21, 2018 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
If you're interested in trying a similar asteroid out here's
Umbertoeco 13069 it's meaning is
"Blurred line between fantasy +reality".

Funny I checked (Fantasia 1224) it in my transit and it's
currently 0° trine with my Ascending sign.
I think this makes sense too.

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So Umbertoeco would a bit of the same as Fantasia?

If you would have let´s say Umbertoeco in natal, conjunct Venus for example, you would be like some one with a Venus/Neptune aspect? Like a Pisces venus?

Fantasizing about romance?

posted October 21, 2018 01:45 PM            

hmmm? I'm heading in that same kind of direction...
Presence of the 'fine line' between truth and fiction? Toggling and intermixing both?
Writers can chose to intermix these as a base for telling a story for entertainment purposes. Narrative-frames? Pseudo-fiction. Pseudo historical fiction. Parodies.

Asteroid 13069 Umbertoeco
- http://markandrewholmes.com/umbertoeco.html
QUOTE
.. was discovered on September 6, 1991
by Eric W. Elst at Haute Provence Observatory
(Observatoire de Haute-Provence, or OHP),
near St. Michel l'Observatoire,
Alpes de Haute-Provence, France.
.. It has a period of 3 years, 239 days.

It was named for Italian philosopher and novelist Umberto Eco (born 1932).
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco
{aside quote -- "His family name is supposedly an acronym of <Umberto> ex caelis oblatus (from Latin-- a gift from the heavens")}
.. <"Eco".. suggesting 'habitat'?>}

MAH.. cont'd
Eco's books include The Name of the Rose (1980), Foucault's Pendulum (1988), The Island Of The Day Before (1995), and Baudolino (2001).

The Name of the Rose
is set in a medieval monastery in northern Italy, in which several murders have taken place and in which an important religious conference is taking place;
English Franciscan friar William of Baskerville and his assistant Adso of Melk investigate the murders.

In Foucault's Pendulum,
three underemployed people at a small publishing house amuse themselves by inventing a conspiracy theory about a secret society that wants to take over the world,
a game which becomes an obsession and then dangerous when outsiders learn of "The Plan" and take it seriously.

The Island Of The Day Before
is about a man marooned on a desert island who spends his time reminiscing about his life and the events that led to his predicament.

Baudolino
is about a medieval knight who saves a Byzantine historian during the sack of Constantinople in the Fourth Crusade and tells of his life story;
he brags of his ability to swindle and tell tall tales,
and both the historian and the reader are left wondering how much of his story was a lie.
(Source- Wikipedia.)

Henk Middleraad links asteroid Umbertoeco to the following--
Lives built on wrong impression and falsehoods.
Line between truth and fantasy.
.. Focusing on facts rather than "the stories about" the facts.
end/Quote mah

My thoughts...
Pseudo-History stories, taken as reality?
example ..
story
Book The Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown {made into a movie}
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail

The fiction movie series with Nicholas Cage called "National Treasure."
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Treasure_(film_series)

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Natal Placement
1369 Umbertoeco Taurus 7.01 H5

transit currently,
Umbertoeco is in Libra 20.35
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ADD 7:58pm ---
I found Umberto Eco's natal chart!!
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Eco,_Umberto

Name
Eco, Umberto
5 January 1932 at 18:30 (= 6:30 PM )
Alessandria, Italy, 44n54, 8e37
SUN Cap 14.11 MOON Sag 15.24
ASC Leo 03.27 MC Aries 16.31
Quote Astro-Databank--
.. "Eco is considered an expert on semiotics, the study of signs, a subject that only a few hundred people in the world have mastered.
The subject focuses on sign systems,
such as flags, musical notes, medical symptoms, even clothing.
Eco has written complex textbooks to codify his own ideas,
such as "A Theory of Semiotics," in 1976.
endQuote

"Semiotics"
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics
- http://www.angelfire.com/md2/timewarp/eco.html
^ quote from
Umberto Eco’s A Theory of Semiotics

Umberto Eco’s A Theory of Semiotics (1976)
is a critique of the theory that the meaning of signals or signs is determined by the objects (i.e. things or events) to which they refer, and is a rejection of the notion that ‘iconic’ signs must be likenesses of their objects.
Eco argues that the meaning of signals or signs
is not necessarily determined by whether they refer to actual objects,
and he explains that the existence of objects to which signals or signs may correspond is not a necessary condition for their signification.
Eco also criticizes the notion that a typology of signs may clarify the nature of sign function,
arguing instead that any typology of signs may fail to explain how different kinds of signs may share the same modes of production.
Eco thus argues that the correct approach to developing a unified semiotic theory should not be to propose a typology of signs but should be to provide a method of investigating how sign-vehicles may function as signs and to provide a means of understanding how sign-vehicles may be produced and interpreted.
<curios? read the rest of this at the angelfire website>

- http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=21020

posted October 22, 2018 09:26 PM            

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So Umbertoeco would a bit of the same as Fantasia?

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I'd say it's more where the individual has trouble deciphering between the reality of the situation vs the fantasy. In my case, I live this way often due to my Neptune qualities.

posted October 23, 2018 02:01 PM            

The other person, also a man, have this conjunction of Venus/Umbertoeco in a perfect square to his love interest´s Neptune....I can only assume that it will make him lose his mind completely!

Any thoughts about this?