posted November 25, 2018 01:30 PM            

Chiron's discory chart has sun in scorpio conjunct exalted uranus in scorpio. Moon at home in cancer conjunct exalted jupiter in Cancer with persona moon also in cancer and Venus in libra at home conjunct Pluto. The moon in cancer square the nodes including pluto conjunct NN so there is also moon square pluto in this discovery.

^Chiron feels VERY DEEPLY. You will not be able to not feel your emotions when chiron hits your chart, you will be forced to feel things deeply but transformation will be the result once you do.

posted November 25, 2018 02:29 PM            

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posted November 25, 2018 03:17 PM            

In my chart, Chiron is in Leo in 9th house. My self-esteem used to be terrible and I've struggled with huge self-worth and self-confidence issues, which could be indicated by Chiron in Leo.

Chiron in 9th house probably relates to my inability to travel long distances or really at all. No one believes me when I say this, but it really isn't a good idea for me to drive. I'm not able to remember how to get anywhere and I don't know if a GPS system is good enough, let alone if I can even afford a car to begin with. Within recent months, I have been able to learn how to get to some places in town. This could mean eventually I'll be able to drive, but that remains to be seen.

I think sometimes it's true that the Chiron wound never heals. Some people would rather learn to live with the wound instead of healing it, because not everyone can cope with the pain that Chiron brings. On the other hand, healing from your Chiron wounds is definitely possible.

In my chart, Chiron makes a quincunx with the North Node, a semi-sextile with Jupiter and my Midheaven, a trine with Mars, and a square with Venus.

Jupiter semi-sextile Chiron - This aspect is most likely why some people think I make certain things a bigger deal than they truly are. Jupiter expands the influence of Chiron, and as a result, my pain is often much, much deeper than other people realize or even understand. I have Moon in Gemini though, which means sometimes I move on and change the topic at random.

Mars trine Chiron - This aspect is the widest of the aspects I listed. The other aspects are much tighter and this one has an orb of 4 degrees. I'm listing this one, because dealing with some of my Chiron wounds has made me tougher, stronger, and more resilient. I often bounce back from pain much quicker than I could in the past. I'm just still a wimp when it comes to physical pain. The orb is wide enough to keep me from being overly aggressive.

Venus square Chiron - This aspect has been pretty painful in the past, but I don't think it has been as painful as it could have been. I've experienced a lot of pain in romantic relationships and most of it was and has been my fault. The pain was a result of my issues with self-esteem and self-worth. Low self-confidence has been a problem too. Chiron was transiting as a sextile to my Venus when I met my twin flame.

Chiron quincunx North Node - I'm honestly not sure what this means. This aspect probably describes the reason for my belief that I'm meant to help people work through their inner demons. Will I ever be successful at doing this? I don't know.

posted November 25, 2018 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
I've heard Chiron described as the wound that never heals.

In my chart, Chiron is in Leo in 9th house. My self-esteem used to be terrible and I've struggled with huge self-worth and self-confidence issues, which could be indicated by Chiron in Leo.

Chiron in 9th house probably relates to my inability to travel long distances or really at all. No one believes me when I say this, but it really isn't a good idea for me to drive. I'm not able to remember how to get anywhere and I don't know if a GPS system is good enough, let alone if I can even afford a car to begin with. Within recent months, I have been able to learn how to get to some places in town. This could mean eventually I'll be able to drive, but that remains to be seen.

I think sometimes it's true that the Chiron wound never heals. Some people would rather learn to live with the wound instead of healing it, because not everyone can cope with the pain that Chiron brings. On the other hand, healing from your Chiron wounds is definitely possible.

In my chart, Chiron makes a quincunx with the North Node, a semi-sextile with Jupiter and my Midheaven, a trine with Mars, and a square with Venus.

Jupiter semi-sextile Chiron - This aspect is most likely why some people think I make certain things a bigger deal than they truly are. Jupiter expands the influence of Chiron, and as a result, my pain is often much, much deeper than other people realize or even understand. I have Moon in Gemini though, which means sometimes I move on and change the topic at random.

Mars trine Chiron - This aspect is the widest of the aspects I listed. The other aspects are much tighter and this one has an orb of 4 degrees. I'm listing this one, because dealing with some of my Chiron wounds has made me tougher, stronger, and more resilient. I often bounce back from pain much quicker than I could in the past. I'm just still a wimp when it comes to physical pain. The orb is wide enough to keep me from being overly aggressive.

Venus square Chiron - This aspect has been pretty painful in the past, but I don't think it has been as painful as it could have been. I've experienced a lot of pain in romantic relationships and most of it was and has been my fault. The pain was a result of my issues with self-esteem and self-worth. Low self-confidence has been a problem too. Chiron was transiting as a sextile to my Venus when I met my twin flame.

Chiron quincunx North Node - I'm honestly not sure what this means. This aspect probably describes the reason for my belief that I'm meant to help people work through their inner demons. Will I ever be successful at doing this? I don't know.

Chiron semi-sextile my Midheaven - Astrological evidence that I've struggled with my life path and career. I still have writer's block, but I don't think my writer's block is permanent. Some of my posts involve me acting like it is and I've usually moved on by the time someone responds. In the moment, however, my every post about writer's block portrays me basically acting like someone just stabbed me and I'm never going to recover and I'm going to die. Jupiter being conjunct my Midheaven is not helpful in this instance as it expands my pain to an unimaginable, dramatic size. Having Moon in Gemini is helpful though. It doesn't stop me from being in pain, but it helps me work through it and keep going. Having my twin flame in my life is helpful too and it's worth mentioning that when my writer's block started, Chiron was opposite my Midheaven. I'm glad I don't have the opposition in my natal chart, not that the semi-sextile is a walk in the park.

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posted November 25, 2018 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Wow Lerena thank you for this in depth explanation of Chiron and how it has developed in your life. Helps me understand better how aspects can play out. For the most part I have trines and sextiles to my Chiron - Mars, Pluto, Mercury but also an opposition to Saturn. My Chiron is in the 12th house and I can’t get a grip of how it shows/effects me but maybe that is the hidden aspect of 12th? Also have questions about you meeting your twin flame but that might be a separate thread. 😬

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My partner has chiron in the 12th inconjunct neptune in the 8th and he has an intense fear of death.

I wonder if you struggle with anxiety with chiron in the 12th maybe you don't understand what is causing the anxiety, like maybe the fears are unknown or your saturn can give us clues to the fear chiron in the 12th carries.

Actually come to think of it with saturn in the 6th maybe you help heal others for a living, like what you do for a living involves helping others face their pain, it could be counseling or hospice work, or nursing people who have fatal illnesses or physical therapy.

I think when chiron involves a career house it would manifest in working with the pain of others and helping them heal.

Or maybe you struggle with health issues yourself with saturn in the 6th opposite chiron or like I said earlier anxiety/depression.

posted November 26, 2018 08:57 PM            

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My partner has chiron in the 12th inconjunct neptune in the 8th and he has an intense fear of death.

I wonder if you struggle with anxiety with chiron in the 12th maybe you don't understand what is causing the anxiety, like maybe the fears are unknown or your saturn can give us clues to the fear chiron in the 12th carries.

Actually come to think of it with saturn in the 6th maybe you help heal others for a living, like what you do for a living involves helping others face their pain, it could be counseling or hospice work, or nursing people who have fatal illnesses or physical therapy.

I think when chiron involves a career house it would manifest in working with the pain of others and helping them heal.

Or maybe you struggle with health issues yourself with saturn in the 6th opposite chiron or like I said earlier anxiety/depression.

What does saturn rule in you chart? What sign is it in?

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Thank you Hypatia238, I always appreciate your input. You are right about most of this. Saturn is in Capricorn in the 6th house. I am very career driven although not in a “healing” field. I might have healing energies or qualities though especially with my Venus in the 12th too. I do struggle with long periods of depression/anxiety with no knowledge of what causes it. My emotions effect my health easily so this could also be what you explained. Hope to figure out how to channel or unlock my hidden 12th house pains.

posted November 26, 2018 09:49 PM            

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Lerena, Leo is your inner child and your creative potential more than your self esteem, 2nd house rules self worth.

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You called your writer's block, a writer's void. That has to be chiron in leo in action, this pain you feel for not been creative or creative enough

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posted November 26, 2018 10:34 PM            

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Yes that makes sense that sun square saturn leads to self-worth issues for sure, on its own even if your sun did not rule chiron, sun square saturn is rough like that, these folks have a very strong critical voice but I imagine it drives these folks to work hard and achieve bc they want to prove they are worthy, perfectionism is unhealthy but also drives people to achieve and succeed.

Sounds like a great solution to try out.

Perhaps chiron in leo feels they are not seeing or appreciated and that is how it manifests in you then, based on comment you made in my thread, it could be this how chiron in leo manifests in you.

I agree with OP that chiron in the natal chart is tricky to interpret. I definitely feel how it plays out in transits and my original response was more based on that.

posted November 26, 2018 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thank you Hypatia238, I always appreciate your input. You are right about most of this. Saturn is in Capricorn in the 6th house. I am very career driven although not in a “healing” field. I might have healing energies or qualities though especially with my Venus in the 12th too. I do struggle with long periods of depression/anxiety with no knowledge of what causes it. My emotions effect my health easily so this could also be what you explained. Hope to figure out how to channel or unlock my hidden 12th house pains.

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posted November 26, 2018 10:43 PM            

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Chiron for me manifests in areas I hold major discomfort in, and probably always will no matter what, but I can learn to deal with it better as time goes on.

I have Chiron in Leo in the 5th house. I've always had difficulty in expressing myself openly in fear of rejection because creativity is my life. If someone rejects my creative spirit, they are essentially rejecting my soul. It doesn't help that I am shy as hell to boot. I can only fully express myself behind closed doors (Pisces Moon in the 12th is also a whole LOT of fun ) And since it trines my Ascendant in Aries, people can usually see through this discomfort in me. I have so much difficulty putting myself out there, and as an artist this is something I NEED to do. I've gotten better with it over time, thankfully through training myself to accept who I am no matter what. I had to learn to become my own best friend and that any sort of rejection by other people regarding me being in the spotlight is on them. I like to encourage other people in their artistic pursuits because as an artist I love to see the many different variations of work out there. I think it's important for people to feel comfortable expressing themselves no matter what. I'm just uncomfortable doing it myself.

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Hugs

Thank you for sharing.

posted November 26, 2018 11:10 PM            

I have chiron in the 6th in gemini opposite chart ruler jupiter conjunct uranus in the 12th forming a golden yod with my moon in the 3rd which rules my 8th and my pluto in the 10th. I am a counselor, I basically provide a service were I help people heal and find their voice, process their feelings, understand their mind and make progress in their healing process through the art of communication and connection.

Two of you are artists or writers and have chiron in leo, one in the 5th and the other in the 9th.

I feel lerena your calling might be teaching a creative writing class potentially, and while you are teaching creative writing you also make progress with your own writing, one thing feeds of the other.

posted November 27, 2018 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes that makes sense that sun square saturn leads to self-worth issues for sure, on its own even if your sun did not rule chiron, sun square saturn is rough like that, these folks have a very strong critical voice but I imagine it drives these folks to work hard and achieve bc they want to prove they are worthy, perfectionism is unhealthy but also drives people to achieve and succeed.

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I think in the natal chart CHIRON is your PURPOSE/PASSION, why you are here. Yes I am going to be bold and say that.

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Following up with Moongaze comment maybe Chiron is our SOUL, maybe its were we experience the deepest joy but also the deepest pain.

Both moongaze and lerena care very deeply about their creative side, like it is their soul, life, purpose but since it means so much to them it is also what makes them feel the most vulnerable and brings the most pain but also the most joy into their life.

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I feel lerena your calling might be teaching a creative writing class potentially, and while you are teaching creative writing you also make progress with your own writing, one thing feeds of the other.

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posted November 27, 2018 03:45 PM            

I was wondering what your interests were in writing, sounds like you want to focus on fiction and astrology and are open to writing about other things as well.