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bjorkstrand
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posted December 18, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/2018-vg18-farout-dwarf-planet-06732.html

as of 1948 it MIGHT be around 1° gemini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_VG18

They have only observed it for a month.
Should look promising. H=3.6

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posted December 21, 2018 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 21, 2018 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO, IF that orbit calculation is right, like a really big IF
whenever jupiter conjuncts an object it enhances it, I have jupiter conjunct mars, i'm still running at 70

jupiter conjunct VG18 people are
bob dylan + uranus, and maybe the A
peter higgs (higgs-bozon particle)
john kennedy
dean martin ya right
nostradamus+ saturn+mars

what? is there shape shifting going on here.

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posted December 22, 2018 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'70' ?? … Really Cool!!
Or?, should I say "Far-out"!! LOL
So.. You have a Jupiter-Mars Gemini? (guess)

My birthday Sun happens to be around the same as the people you listed.

You were born at a FM eclipse?
What day?

I was born within a week before the NN FMecleSag14+ {annular}.
(post-natal lunar)

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posted December 22, 2018 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, i just about fell off my chair

neptune conjunct VG18
cayce(1877) + the moon
einstein(1879)
beethoven
blavatsky
joan of arc

Jim(i have it opposing the sun + mercury)

If u must know i'm a sag

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posted December 22, 2018 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In case people come to this thread thinking that those are name-asteroid numbers?

Nope. Those numbers in parentheses are the year of birth.
Cayce b.1877
Einstein b.1879

With Beethoven, he has a name-asteroid.
2001 Beethoven

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Cayce,_Edgar
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Einstein,_Albert
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Beethoven,_Ludwig_Van

Jim, happy belated saggi birthday!

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posted December 22, 2018 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously nobody here lies to go to astro.com, this is a copy from what alois did

The orbit of 2018VG18 ist still very uncertain.

I have used the orbital elements I could find at MPC (Minor Planet Center) https://minorplanetcenter.net/
and computed an ephemeris file with the pseudo-number 999042, for the years 1500 - 2100

According to this speculative orbit, it crossed the ecliptic in 1820 and in 1977, and was at is perihel (closest distance to the Sun) in 1828, at a distance outside of Uranus' orbit at 22 AU. This is very speculative!

It can be used in charts, keeping in mind that the position is highly unreliable outside of the current decade.

swetest -b1.1.1550greg -s10y -n51 -xs999042 -ps -fTPZBR -roundmin
date (dmy) 1.1.1550 greg. 0:00:00 TT version 2.07.02a
long lat distance
01.01.1550 2018 VG18 15 cn 58 -23°29' 148.292450099
01.01.1560 2018 VG18 17 cn 10 -23°52' 146.096379402
01.01.1570 2018 VG18 18 cn 23 -24°15' 143.759653740
01.01.1580 2018 VG18 19 cn 40 -24°39' 141.291980352
01.01.1590 2018 VG18 20 cn 59 -25° 2' 138.689302308
01.01.1600 2018 VG18 22 cn 22 -25°26' 135.937646392
01.01.1610 2018 VG18 23 cn 48 -25°51' 133.027178135
01.01.1620 2018 VG18 25 cn 19 -26°15' 129.968594815
01.01.1630 2018 VG18 26 cn 53 -26°41' 126.737899182
01.01.1640 2018 VG18 28 cn 35 -27° 6' 123.348567934
01.01.1650 2018 VG18 0 le 21 -27°32' 119.788575015
01.01.1660 2018 VG18 2 le 15 -27°59' 116.046283280
01.01.1670 2018 VG18 4 le 16 -28°25' 112.103204989
01.01.1680 2018 VG18 6 le 28 -28°52' 107.969230167
01.01.1690 2018 VG18 8 le 50 -29°20' 103.609131618
01.01.1700 2018 VG18 11 le 27 -29°47' 99.036766376
01.01.1710 2018 VG18 14 le 20 -30°13' 94.236223151
01.01.1720 2018 VG18 17 le 33 -30°39' 89.176288851
01.01.1730 2018 VG18 21 le 9 -31° 3' 83.830630581
01.01.1740 2018 VG18 25 le 18 -31°23' 78.207628660
01.01.1750 2018 VG18 0 vi 7 -31°38' 72.254597651
01.01.1760 2018 VG18 5 vi 50 -31°41' 65.985177199
01.01.1770 2018 VG18 12 vi 45 -31°27' 59.362153135
01.01.1780 2018 VG18 21 vi 22 -30°38' 52.395834983
01.01.1790 2018 VG18 2 li 24 -28°46' 45.087410796
01.01.1800 2018 VG18 16 li 59 -24°46' 37.622302440
01.01.1810 2018 VG18 6 sc 54 -16°33' 30.434914124
01.01.1820 2018 VG18 4 sa 39 -0°56' 24.793458260
01.01.1830 2018 VG18 12 cp 38 19°40' 23.139820254
01.01.1840 2018 VG18 24 aq 34 30°22' 26.610676274
01.01.1850 2018 VG18 25 pi 26 29°19' 33.088678715
01.01.1860 2018 VG18 14 ar 17 25° 1' 40.474408732
01.01.1870 2018 VG18 26 ar 19 20°45' 47.926836483
01.01.1880 2018 VG18 4 ta 43 17° 7' 55.109077523
01.01.1890 2018 VG18 10 ta 58 14° 6' 61.957907739
01.01.1900 2018 VG18 15 ta 56 11°33' 68.439241182
01.01.1910 2018 VG18 19 ta 59 9°23' 74.588295949
01.01.1920 2018 VG18 23 ta 26 7°30' 80.409564294
01.01.1930 2018 VG18 26 ta 23 5°51' 85.941342128
01.01.1940 2018 VG18 29 ta 0 4°22' 91.177925516
01.01.1950 2018 VG18 1 ge 20 3° 3' 96.151749301
01.01.1960 2018 VG18 3 ge 28 1°52' 100.868204887
01.01.1970 2018 VG18 5 ge 25 0°46' 105.374586169
01.01.1980 2018 VG18 7 ge 13 -0°15' 109.646699636
01.01.1990 2018 VG18 8 ge 54 -1°11' 113.723381783
01.01.2000 2018 VG18 10 ge 28 -2° 3' 117.595673683
01.01.2010 2018 VG18 11 ge 58 -2°51' 121.278646312
01.01.2020 2018 VG18 13 ge 22 -3°37' 124.775594514
01.01.2030 2018 VG18 14 ge 43 -4°21' 128.119761307
01.01.2040 2018 VG18 16 ge 0 -5° 2' 131.286060210
01.01.2050 2018 VG18 17 ge 14 -5°41' 134.303803306


And here in 1-month steps for the current epoch, all geocentric.

swetest -b1.1.2018 -s30 -n18 -xs999042 -ps -fTPZBR -roundmin
date (dmy) 1.1.2018 greg. 0:00:00 TT version 2.07.02a

01.01.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 5 -3°28' 124.092440847
31.01.2018 2018 VG18 12 ge 55 -3°28' 124.470832376
02.03.2018 2018 VG18 12 ge 52 -3°28' 124.991169464
01.04.2018 2018 VG18 12 ge 55 -3°27' 125.519099192
01.05.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 5 -3°27' 125.924680347
31.05.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 19 -3°27' 126.115794058
30.06.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 33 -3°28' 126.056135957
30.07.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 44 -3°29' 125.769060774
29.08.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 50 -3°30' 125.331164823
28.09.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 49 -3°31' 124.857422665
28.10.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 42 -3°32' 124.477339979
27.11.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 29 -3°33' 124.302675032
27.12.2018 2018 VG18 13 ge 16 -3°33' 124.393199464
26.01.2019 2018 VG18 13 ge 5 -3°33' 124.734093089
25.02.2019 2018 VG18 13 ge 0 -3°32' 125.238293332
27.03.2019 2018 VG18 13 ge 2 -3°32' 125.775008655
26.04.2019 2018 VG18 13 ge 11 -3°32' 126.210664067
26.05.2019 2018 VG18 13 ge 24 -3°32' 126.444587891

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posted December 23, 2018 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found it!

999042 2018 VG18
I have this placement in
(1955)Gemini 2.54'32" H6taur

My Sun 7.50 was separating from it at orb 4s
Trine MC Libra -0a H10
Trine Chiron-rx Aquarius -2a H2capr
Semi-sextile Mars Cancer -0a H7gem
Semi-square Vesta Cancer -0a H8canc

It is retrograde now
(in my 7th, near Desc cusp 11.30)

Today,
Neptune in Pisces 13.55' squares
2018 VG18-rx Gemini 13.17'11"
.. speed -26"; lat. 3.32'56" S ; decl 18.52'05" N

And yes,
opposing Mercury and Jupiter in Sagittarius.
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posted December 23, 2018 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you call it "pseudo-number"?

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posted December 23, 2018 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Why do you call it "pseudo-number"?

If an object doesn't have a number from astronomers, alois(at astro.com) give it a pseudo number.
Try going to astro.com forum sometime. that bjorkstrand character is over there too, my second home.

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posted December 23, 2018 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
If an object doesn't have a number from astronomers, alois(at astro.com) give it a pseudo number.

OH!!! Thanks for letting me know that he does that for us. A few times I've gone there to 'see' if there's a number assigned to some of the newest finds.

How does Alois adjust the pseudo-number after it has a REAL number?

I think VERY HIGHLY of him. There's soooo much there!!!

I've HAVE seen 'your character' at astro forum, plus other places. I think it's cool that you use the same name/character.

I had been there just-before (or as) I registered at LL. Got "intimidated" at the higher level of knowledge participants had there. Felt I couldn't really add without making a fool of myself. I was still in the barest-beginnings of learning.

I had begun an interest in astrology, saw a thread I might like here at LL, (dealing with asteroids), and jumped in (VERY nervously-- I have a shyness that people might never guess I have).

LL member Jovian, sorta took me under her wings.. Left me breadcrumbs (links) to other threads (which helped me get to know LL).

One of the reasons I decided to establish self at LL then, was that we get to edit our posts.

Sometimes I need to 'adjust' what I said, for clarity-- OR to be able to add MORE information to a particular idea in post I already made, thinking it adds to keep it richer and fuller. Keep the information more "organized" and available 'to the eye.'

Glad you're around.
(thanks for the invite, will see)

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posted December 24, 2018 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the real astrological period = 850 years. in the pythagoras/buddha chart(the great transformation) of 12 may 574 BC VG18 is only 20 degrees away from the great conjunction of pluto, neptune, uranus, jupiter, mars, mercury and the sun. So if the object is faster it might conjunct the above. We shall see next year.

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posted December 24, 2018 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
!!! That's astounding.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/571_BC

Astrological Cycles in History
by Palden Jenkins
- http://cura.free.fr/xx/20palden.html

The Fixed Stars in Mundane Astrology
Anne Wright
{She talks about effects in history.}
- http://www.constellationsofwords.com/categories/mundaneexplan.htm

Gautama Buddha is listed on this chart's timeline.
- http://www.conazarene.org/hp_wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Bible-Timeline.pdf

Greek Philosopher's Menu
astronomical
- http://www.stenudd.com/greekphilosophers/table.htm
- http://www.stenudd.com/greekphilosophers/anaximander.htm

*sitting on the edge of my cosmic space seat!! *

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posted December 24, 2018 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody has a clue when buddha was born so therefore since u r an astrologer let astrology(so above so below) do the work.
The people who could be born r buddha, pythagoras, loe-tse, confucius(a contempary of lao-tzu, daniel, patanjali, zoraster and cyrus the great. Now i'm not saying they r born on the same day, but definitely the same year.

For buddha here is proof that he was born in the 6th century. They carbon dated a piece of wood.
ps I was pythagoras, he stole the triangle info from the egyptians + the golden number.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1wuCf7ReXQ buddha info

Merry xmas

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posted December 25, 2018 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when an object conjuncts sirius/canopus
something happens

when VG18 conjuncts these 2 bright stars
columbus and davinci were born
the gutenburg bible was printed

maybe the calculations r right
so above so below

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posted December 26, 2018 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
will look forward with anticipation for what happens then.
Happy Boxing Day, Jim!

ADD-- 18jan2020

Oh!! Didn't see that your birthday was Christmas!

Happy Birthday, Jim!

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posted January 17, 2020 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
new data for the orbit is in.
as of 1948, it was 4 degrees off, backwards that is. before 1° gemini, now 27° tau

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posted January 17, 2020 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in 1865 neptune conjunct it, The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (conditional prohibition of slavery and involuntary servitude) passes narrowly, in the House of Representatives.

gandhi was born 1869 with sun opposing neptune+ VG18

it should be called the vitruvian man

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posted January 18, 2020 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
. . 🌸 . .
My Moon is near exact in parallel with Sirius. I'm researching it further but it might answer a lot of my spiritual peculiar questions of 'self'.

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posted January 22, 2020 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
new data for the orbit is in.
as of 1948, it was 4 degrees off, backwards that is. before 1° gemini, now 27° tau


John Kennedy has mercury + mars + jupiter conjunct it
Bob Dylan has moon+ jupiter + saturn + uranus + sun conjunct it
Pope John Paul has mercury + ceres + venus + sun conjunct it


in 1865 neptune conjunct it, The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (conditional prohibition of slavery and involuntary servitude) passes narrowly, in the House of Representatives.

gandhi was born 1869 with sun opposing neptune+ VG18

it should be called the vitruvian man

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posted January 23, 2020 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Vitruvian Man
- http://leonardodavinci.stanford.edu/submissions/clabaugh/history/leonardo.html

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posted January 24, 2020 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if the orbit is right
-jesus has it opposing the sun at the MC
- mother mary has it conjunct sun+ moon rising

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posted February 07, 2020 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
n 1905 in einstein chart VG18 + jupiter conjuncts einstein's neptune

columbus + davinci had pluto conjunct it

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posted July 29, 2020 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops. astronomers used to think it had a period of 1222 years. Now they think it's 726. A slight mistake. Now they've done 26 observations instead of 16. Maybe by January they will figure it out.
Maybe 2018 VG18 means assumption of the truth.
It still opposes my sun like before.
carry on

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