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implosions
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posted January 10, 2019 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is ANTEROS(1943) in your chart? What aspects does it make? How do you return love?

I have this little bugger conjunct my North Node, opposing my Chiron/SN. I would love some insight, as even the concept seems so strange to understand.

How DOES one return love? Avenge it? Is it about reciprocated love when shown it? When it's deserved? How does one reciprocate unless they naturally just 'feel' it? Wouldn't that be considered fake?

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Lerena
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posted January 11, 2019 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Anteros in Pisces in 4th house. It makes a bi-quintile to Chiron, but it doesn't do anything else in my chart. Well, this asteroid. I have a story involving Anteros. Unfortunately for me, Neptune is in Pisces and it was conjunct this asteroid in 2015. The influence of Neptune clouded my judgment and I seriously hurt someone I loved, because I was in pain and I didn't know who I could trust and believe. Someone was trying to help me with relationship issues and his attempt did more harm than good even though it was not directly his fault. Since there were pre-existing issues before Neptune transited this asteroid, this worsened the confusion. The pain I inflicted was because I couldn't trust my own judgment and I had my own issues back then that contributed to my actions, but it actually surprised me to see this transit. I didn't think planets transiting asteroids meant anything, especially when an asteroid isn't even prominent.

At the time, I thought my boyfriend was taking advantage of me and I decided to confront him about it. My boyfriend and I still have some issues in our relationship, but he was most definitely not guilty of what I accused him of back then. He didn't actually do anything wrong to deserve that. It was just hard for me to think properly and he got hurt because of my own problems. For years, I felt guilty about what I did and I have taken countless verbal beatings over my own behavior simply because I thought I deserved them. Fortunately, this is no longer the case. My relationship is generally in better shape than it used to be. I'm not done working through my remaining issues, but at least I'm not as bad as before and I've improved a lot.

I'm not actually sure what Anteros in Pisces or Anteros in 4th house means. In general, I'm extremely sensitive to the experiences of my romantic partner and anyone I care about. I do whatever I can to make the people around me happy. If I don't, it will impact my own mental health and emotional well-being. I cannot handle being around people that play the victim and keep themselves miserable. Doing this takes its toll on my health, which means I have to set boundaries and strictly adhere to them as often as possible. As long as someone isn't bombarding me with constant negativity and self-hatred and we're doing something besides discussing their misery all the time, listening to people vent isn't an issue. People have problems and I can handle that. It's only an issue when it's the norm. Especially when I'm in love with someone, I'll do nearly anything and everything in my power for them.

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Stellia
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posted January 22, 2019 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anteros is a concept that doesn't neatly translate to modern western life. I have done some reading around it and it's more about how love is reflected, or perhaps which aspects of a relationship are mirrored.

This article: http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/2012/09/10/ancient-greece-and-the-asteroids-of-passionate-love-eros-and-anteros/

Talks about how ideally you should use anteros in tandem with Eros, as part of the bigger harmony of erotes.

Personally, I use it in synastry and would expect to see *some* connections with anteros in a romantic relationship.

For example, I have a synastry where my anteros conjuncts their Neptune (reflects a high ideal of 'love'), where their anteros conjuncts my BML (reflecting the hidden desires that get to come out in a passionate relationship).

With the info above about using Eros and anteros together, I'm now wondering if the Eros/anteros midpoint might reveal more about our individual natures. Just a thought...

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implosions
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posted January 22, 2019 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stellia:
Anteros is a concept that doesn't neatly translate to modern western life. I have done some reading around it and it's more about how love is reflected, or perhaps which aspects of a relationship are mirrored.

This article: http://beyondthestarsastrology.com/2012/09/10/ancient-greec e-and-the-asteroids-of-passionate-love-eros-and-anteros/

Talks about how ideally you should use anteros in tandem with Eros, as part of the bigger harmony of erotes.

Personally, I use it in synastry and would expect to see *some* connections with anteros in a romantic relationship.

For example, I have a synastry where my anteros conjuncts their Neptune (reflects a high ideal of 'love'), where their anteros conjuncts my BML (reflecting the hidden desires that get to come out in a passionate relationship).

With the info above about using Eros and anteros together, I'm now wondering if the Eros/anteros midpoint might reveal more about our individual natures. Just a thought...


Dang, thank you for this post, Stellia! This was a good read, and quite eye-opening on the nature of Eros/Anteros. I completely agree on the more ... frivolity of their nature (and the bit about how we put way too much weight on these style relationships in today's age). Granted, society is more built these days on free love, but the concepts of personal ownership in relationships can cause a big problem when it's more of a matchstick style energy.

I suppose then in my case, I do tend to find myself drawn to loving back in ways that are totally foreign to me, or 'unknown' in a way. But also what draws me in, in a sort of 'destiny' style feeling (asteroid destinn is also on my NN). But with Eros, I laughed a lot. I've got Eros conjunct my Pallas, both of which trine Uranus on my MC. I have often been accused of 'throwing' love darts around, making people fall for me without any real intention of it. I'd had no idea what they meant, but I think now I do! And part of me can't say I'm entirely innocent, I do act my daily life in a very .. Eros-heavy (though appropriate!) manner, but it's usually more for my own sake than anyone else. I really do laugh at the concept of me throwing 'arrows' willy-nilly, though. Somehow I can't deny it, even without the intention.

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implosions
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posted January 22, 2019 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lerena:
I have Anteros in Pisces in 4th house.

Lerena, check out the explanation in the post below you! It was quite eye opening for my own placement, perhaps it can help yours!

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Randall
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posted January 23, 2019 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!

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