posted April 02, 2019 06:46 PM            

Specifically I was thinking about the possibility of expanding orbs with consciousness.

I.e. the rationale is normally that orbs out of bounds are out of bounds? But we know better these days than to write things in stone.

Say there is an object outside of a standard orb-distance, do you think "focused intention" or "awareness" of "close location" could activate the linkage between the objects?

Just a top-of-mind question.

Example:

Johanna (09) Sagittarius 14°00
Iris (09) Sagittarius 16°49'49"
Telegramia (09) Sagittarius 18°44
Soomana (09) Sagittarius 19°32

Johanna is too long away from Soomana to be conjunct. But could awareness of the objects in between bridge a conjunction by way of utilizing their inherent function?

posted April 05, 2019 05:36 PM            

(And not whether they are out-of-bounds, according to "declination"-- which MANY of those can naturally can be??)

When I think about my own clusters of asteroids relating/mixing 'one' mythological story e.g. Ceres/Demeter mythologies with Persephone/Prosperina, it might seem to fit your thoughts.

Example-- Mixing asteroids from Roman AND the Greek myths. You find same-general-story-meanings from one-civilization's asteroid-story, located a kind of 'slide' away from joining the other.. I would think that especially IF there was a planet/luminary nearby and among those that would be connected to it?..

I'd think that your idea may have some merit?
Based on what I see in my own chart, it fits.

I think this is one of the ways the various parallel asteroid-mythological stories 'prove' and validate themselves in sectors of a person's chart.

You can see the redundancies spelled out-- indicating to the person that the dynamics of this 'myth' may have more strength.

posted April 05, 2019 05:48 PM            

They 'reinforce' each other.

You might also want to explore and tie-in the meanings of the fixed stars located in that part of the sky (tight-conjunctions).

posted April 06, 2019 08:07 AM            

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You are thinking about groups of asteroids that can be related to similar 'functions' (you said)?

(And not whether they are out-of-bounds, according to "declination"-- which MANY of those can naturally can be??)

When I think about my own clusters of asteroids relating/mixing 'one' mythological story e.g. Ceres/Demeter mythologies with Persephone/Prosperina, it might seem to fit your thoughts.

Example-- Mixing asteroids from Roman AND the Greek myths. You find same-general-story-meanings from one-civilization's asteroid-story, located a kind of 'slide' away from joining the other.. I would think that especially IF there was a planet/luminary nearby and among those that would be connected to it?..

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Yes - I am thinking BOTH I think.

Considering the chart as a mythopoietic map reflecting our individual microcosms it makes sense to me that the whole chain of asteroid bodies is in some way related to a pathway toward full integration.

Transit of Luminaries = an opportunity to see/understand/integrate with the chain of myth-energy that the asteroids relate to. When the object has passed this area the effects dissipate, but did we integrate our consciousness with the archetypal lessons? - considering the mytho-energetic playout we just experienced assist us in our psycho-spiritual evolutionary process.

Where there are 'big gaps' is where we have to work extra hard to integrate i.e. build a longer bridge.

In the example with Iris+Telegramia bridging Johanna+Sooomana it seems 'extra-dimensional helpers' will have to be listened to - during particular transits for example (see below).

Integrating myths from different culures is a must to me - archetypical energies can play out in several areas/houses not just one (note people who say "I pay no attention to Aphrodite because it is the same as Venus"). Globalization process, migration streams, internet etc are all examples of our current stage in consciousness evolution as a point of INTEGRATION.

EVERY SINGLE BODY IS IMPORTANT.
OUR ABILITY TO CONNECT THE DOTS IS A REFLECTION OF OUR ENERGETIC SENSITIVITY COUPLED WITH OUR WILLINGNESS TO UNDERSTAND THE ENERGIES UTILIZING WHAT WE HAVE INTEGRATED WITH THUS FAR.

I will make more research on this.

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Should be very highlighted for you right now, since transiting Jupiter's expanding effect is in those degrees of Sagittarius, and will retrograde, then go forward again over that asteroid-set, during this year.

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This is actually from my TwinFlame's list. N.b. JOHANNA (feminine equiv of my name) = conj. her Great Attractor. We are in separation currently and I am musing on her process of breaking away from 3D-shackles.

I think she is purifying her analysis of our situation now (sat+plut through her 6th house) after spending 2018 in the underworld (jupiter in scorpio, where her pluto conjuncts her nn which is conj MY-NAME-ADONIS etc etc).

- Last Full Moon 00 lib hit our SGC, my EXCALIBUR and her PRIAPUS.
- New moon @ 15 aries hit my HER-NAME and her BYBLIS.
(Byblis is where Isis located the body of Osiris)
- Coming Full moon 29 lib hits my POF and her SAMADHI.
- Coming New moon 14 tau hits my MIDAS and her SITA.

Not all the hits mentioned here, but it seems like a relevant process is ongoing. For my part I know the EXCALIBUR conj Full Moon was related to many breakthroughs for my part regarding understanding my own starseed origin as well as service in this incarnation.

And yes, as you say, Jupiter Rx-period is noteworthy: Stations Rx (24sag) on her FLOOD-TRUTH-CRESCENTIA-6th HOUSE CUSP and stations direct (14sag) exactly on Great Attractor-JOHANNA.

posted April 06, 2019 11:34 AM            

You said, "Where there are 'big gaps' is where we have to work extra hard to integrate i.e. build a longer bridge."

Like in cooking, sometimes various ingredients that have been worked (kneaded) and mixed for a while, require us to take our hands off it for a time period -- We need to allow things to "rest" in order for the 'integration' to naturally occur.

Bridge?.. let the water flow underneath it a while, while you observe and take-in the whole scene. Let the pieces integrate themselves.

So. Instead of working extra hard, I'd say that in that less-inhabited space, to just let it rest-- observe and 'allow' the mix to do it's own work, without us.

One of the most valuable things I've learned over the past month has been about 'allowing' each piece to be what it is, in its place we find it, without needing to change or hook it to the next 'logical' step and conclusion? ... Step back, and simply observe, looking at the beautiful overarching dome that these distinct pieces operate in. Enjoy it.

Like observing an audience from a stage.. and seeing each distinct body and head-- hair color, facial features, body build-- and they are standing or seated in their row and positions. They are part of a WHOLE, and they got there for their shared special-interest, each there to enhance themselves individually, as part of the Collective.

Similar (too) in a way to the medieval Art piece called The Flammarion? Only, in a BOTH manner.. we look IN, and we look OUT??
- http://andrewrcameron.com/2014/04/16/the-flammarion-engraving/

Geez...
I'm loving the effects of these Sky Energies right now..
So many patterns and fragments to behold.

(music) The Windmills of Your Mind (Michel Legrand, perf by Sting, scenes from Thomas Crown Affair) [4:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSaugshzywA

Are you taking astrology courses somewhere?
Is this part of your project?

posted April 06, 2019 12:34 PM            

Patterns patterns. They are my stream.
Gem Asc and Pisces stellium (Sun, Merc, Ven, Jup). Sag Mars, Saturn, Uranus. And all my flowers grow wild tended by this nature in Neptune Capricorn - my garden of dreams. Pluto Scorpio.

No, I am not taking courses - pure self-propelled investigation. Very fresh at it as well. Astro, about two years of coming to grips with it (far to go still). Asteroids I have looked at for a little more than a month. It's a part of my life-project

Am an artist, sitting and musing in-between a BFA and MFA, with transiting Psyche conj. my Destinn and Innanen

Also agree with you about this period, been walking on clouds, super elated!!! This is unrelated to TF - that will develop as it is supposed to, in its own pace. That being said I enjoy learning about astrology through my experience of our relation.

posted April 06, 2019 03:45 PM            

Wow! nice placements.
Happy Belated Birthday.
Just Keep swimming! LOL

There is another forum here where they discuss the part of your interest related to "relationship" astrology, with more depth and sharing of delineations and charts.

If you haven't explored it yet, check out
Interpersonal Astrology Forum
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Interpersonal+Astrology&number=35&DaysPrune=1000&LastLogin=

If you need instruction on posting images, scroll through the posts on this thread--
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000016.html

So. What kind of art do you do?

What do you think you'll be focusing on with your Master's?

posted April 07, 2019 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Most people can't even relate to most asteroids, so I'd think not.

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Bismarck2… Part of what you say it "true."

We are here to explore it all...
Parts of astrology are compatible to certain-people.
Some others find their world truly opens-up WITH the asteroids, and the mythologies behind them, that these represent.

I remember an interview I heard between Robert Hand and Eric Francis a long time ago. If you don't recognize these astrologers, then, do some research into some of the Pioneers of the fields in which you play and study.

Robert Hand has done a LOT of direct-research himself. He doesn't confirm interpretations unless he-himself has observed it in the work he does on other people's charts.

Don't know if you have his book, Planet in Transits? The book is an excellent read-- if you read it simply for its wisdom (without the aspects).

So what Robert and Eric were saying is that ASTEROIDS can be amazingly relevant and revealing of Life and things that have really-happened along the way, in SOME people's charts. It, to Mr. Hand, didn't seem to apply to 'everyone' .. but in the charts of 'some', the asteroids have a freaky synchronicity.

Now... in the 'start' of the study of asteroids, some people take it WAY too literally~~ and yet, in myself, I can see how that happens. They are truly compelling.

I think there are moments where we need to pry ourselves off such a 'fixed' way of interpreting, and move higher to an arching-understanding. Throughout life, (which mine has been a LOT longer that most of y'all LOL), the asteroids (in combinations), have a creepy way of spelling, then re-spelling, re-arranging, the story of what has happened in your life. The people you've met. Places you've been. Jobs and careers you've held. Philosophies and religion beliefs you've had. The pains and sorrows, and the pleasures and your Joys... The names of your children... All written-out in the Mystery.

Astrology is a Calling.
There are soooo many Systems in it, that after you study various ones, you find that they 'say' the same things, using slightly different language and approach. But they say.. the same thing.

That's one of the ways that 'prove' it... over and over.

And for ME-- it is a humbling experience.. to find how MUCH we are Loved and how Connected we are to one another.. without really realizing it.

What touches me, also touches the Universe.
What is in the universes, touches God.. Creator.

We live under the same stars.
It's my story, and yours.
We impact each other... ripple-effects.

Be Good to each other.
You never know the effect this can have.

Be Bridges...

Our lifestreams..
Filled with sharp stumbling-blocks/rocks,
Washed and tumbled by life.
We can stand on the bridges of our lives, and with appreciating, see the Artistry...