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iQ
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posted April 16, 2019 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A terrible fire destroyed the roof France's iconic Notre Dame Cathedral on 15th April, that has stood for 800 plus years.

The following aspects were important, considering March 24th of 1163 Julian Date as the approximate date of the foundation stone.

1. North Node Return.
2. Tr Jupiter (Rx) conjunct Neptune.
3. Tr Neptune square Saturn.

Neptune is linked to Fire based tragedies as per Carl Payne Tobey's accurate research.

In Asteroids, WALPURGA and LUCIFER were conjunct exact for hours.
Transit LILITH conjunct Natal NEMESIS as well.

Was it a Satanic Ritual that went horribly wrong?
Was it a Sign for Vatican to reform faster and apologize to traumatize kids?

Also, this could be related to the New Black Hole Sighting. Many old school Astrologers warn us about revealing the image sof important new Astronomical Bodies as their vibes may be more on the negative side.

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posted April 16, 2019 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I.Q, those are definitely heavy powers. I heard a yt video say that in the Roman period it was the location of a worship to Jupiter. He's in retrograde now too.
I agree with your thinking, any of those potential causes certainly are possible.
As the dark arts could definitely be part of it, ritual magic, not a week before I had seen clues something big might soon unfold. We had a Bell tower incident on the East coast of America, recently reported. It certainly made me think ritual magic was occurring.

I think as the world views it, a sturdy foundation of faith it is a test of their faith within these troubled times.

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posted April 16, 2019 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leah Whitehorse have made some observations I in the chart of the event that I find interesting.
http://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2019/04/16/the-astrology-of-the-notre-dame-fire/

Uranian prompt to up the pace of healing.

Cosmic forces are intervening to assist the community in their Healing process. Consider the Tower in the tarot.

Asteroid Paris is Rx conjunct ASC in the chart for the event. It is opposing Chiron.

Consider that the Notre Dame is referred to by the french as "our LADY". Consider the pledge made to HEAL HER.

I recommend people have a look at Leah's post, she goes deeper than the points I highlighted.

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posted April 16, 2019 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just want to mention that there were over 800 church vandalisms in France last year, and several this year as well.

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posted April 17, 2019 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, iQ!

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posted April 18, 2019 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They probably have much better images of the black hole. in the good ones i seen i saw a face and it has a consciousness. i cant find that photo anymore. anyway i think sagittarius A is coming towards earth in 2215 as shown by the galactic alignment that winter solstice.


as you can tell, in winter solstice 2215 there is a conjunction of the GC with earth, moon, and sun.

according to this website, the dendera zodiac predicts this date as well. thats how i discovered it.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/esp_egipto06.htm

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posted April 19, 2019 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 19, 2019 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB8CPN7hGeI

Oracle Report talking about the fire as a setup/coding for 2020 by Illuminati.

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posted April 21, 2019 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Just want to mention that there were over 800 church vandalisms in France last year, and several this year as well.

Even I read in an article that according to a German news site, 1,063 attacks on Christian churches or symbols (crucifixes, icons, statues) were registered in France in 2018. And about 2 churches are desecrated every day on average in France. This represents a 17% increase compared to the previous year (2017), when 878 attacks were registered.

Who is primarily behind these ongoing and increasing attacks on churches in Europe? The same German report offers a hint: "Crosses are broken, altars smashed, Bibles set on fire, baptismal fonts overturned, and the church doors smeared with Islamic expressions like 'Allahu Akbar.'"

In Germany, there has also been many attacks on churches. "Police are currently dealing with church desecrations again and again. The perpetrators are often youthful rioters with a migration background." Elsewhere they are described as "young Islamists."

In France it also seems that where the number of Muslim migrants increases, so do attacks on churches. A January 2017 study revealed that, "Islamist extremist attacks on Christians" in France rose by 38 percent, going from 273 attacks in 2015 to 376 in 2016; the majority occurred during Christmas season and "many of the attacks took place in churches and other places of worship."

"Hardly anyone writes and speaks about the increasing attacks on Christian symbols. There is an eloquent silence in both France and Germany about the scandal of the desecrations and the origin of the perpetrators.... Not a word, not even the slightest hint that could in anyway lead to the suspicion of migrants... It is not the perpetrators who are in danger of being ostracized, but those who dare to associate the desecration of Christian symbols with immigrant imports. They are accused of hatred, hate speech and racism."

Now, whether the burning of the Notre Dame was a deliberate attack by Muslim(s) or an accident, an attack by others, or simply a bad omen, it would be naive to not even consider it, because the destruction of churches and Christian symbols have long been part of Islamic history and as part of its conquering of what were previously predominantly Christian countries, including the discrimination against Christians and the rape of Christian girls (which also happens against Hindu girls in India in the form of what is known as "love jihad"). An Islamist specialist who studied Islam and its history talks about how Egypt who used to be predominantly Christian was taken over by Islam and specifically describes in the words of Islamists themselves how this was done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T-Y67SzLkk

Moreover, the Muslim Brotherhood that also has its roots in Egypt has become associated with the "establishment within Islam", serving as the gateway between the European Muslim community and local and national governments.

Even the FBI had uncovered documents from the Muslim Brotherhood where they explain their plan for the West, written black on white and how they want to sabotage the Western world from within to ultimately re-establish the Islamic Caliphate (Islamic State) and implement shariah law all over the world. They do this via grassroots organizations spread throughout many Western countries in fields like education, welfare, medical services, and religious institutions, known as the da’wah(proselytization) system with the sole purpose of sabotaging the West from within.

The London-based Asharq al-Awsat accused several European countries of dealing lightly with the Muslim Brotherhood, which in turn gave legitimacy to the group and room for it to grow on the continent.
Today, many Muslims in these countries look up to the Muslim Brotherhood as a representative body.
The Brotherhood now controls numerous mosques and schools and take an active role in dealing with the new wave of refugees to Europe from the Middle East.

Anyhow, I decided to look at Notre Dame's chart to see if we can find some links with that as the Notre Dame surely is a symbol of Europe's cultural heritage which has its roots in Christianity and is known all over the world.

Interestingly in the natal chart, asteroid Europa is at 24°07 *exactly* square asteroid Bilal 24°07. Bilal was one of the most loyal companions of the prophet Muhammed.

Europe is in the liberal, progressive and openminded sign of Aquarius, while Bilal is in the sign of Scorpio who likes to hurt and cause death. Although Bilal is conjunct the POF, when aspected negatively the POF can represent misfortune.

Notre Dame's South Node is conjunct the asteroid Almanzor who was the de facto ruler of Muslim al Andalus under the Umayyad Caliphate of Córdoba... To wage warfare on this scale against the Christian states, he brought in many Berber mercenaries, which upset the political order over time. He sacked Leon in 988 and Santiago de Compostela in Galicia in 997, taking the cathedral bells to be melted down into lanterns for the Great Mosque of Cordoba.

Almanzor symbolizes Catholic Europe's past of already having been invaded and submitted to Islam. In the Solar return, Pluto and Saturn are conjuncting the SN and Almanzor. And as Leah Whitehorse says, The South Node rules old karma. This is all happening in the sign of Capricorn, a sign ruled by Saturn and symbolic of the establishment. So, from this, we have been talking about how the establishment needs to change, the system is toxic, old paradigms no longer work.

I'd interpret that as the old establishment (the Islamic Caliphate) is returning from the past and needs to be destroyed or transformed if we want to head over into matriarchy (the NN in Cancer). Whilst Leah interprets the old establishment as Christianity needing to be destroyed, I don't think that makes much sense as that is like beating a dead horse. Christianity, especially in Western Europe has already been ridiculed to death and most Western Europeans are atheist nowadays. However, there is a fine line between healthy criticism and self-hatred and I think the Notre Dame is showing that despite we may no longer practice Christianity, Europe can not so easily erase its Catholic history because it's part of it's cultural heritage and identity. Moreover, the Muslim world also views Westerners as Christians despite they don’t actively practice their religion anymore. And while self-criticism is good, it shouldn't turn to self-hatred because as Macron said, “as the Notre Dame burns, part of us is burning”.

Leah Whitehorse also says: The message is clear that what has stood for hundreds of years can be razed to the ground. 

Yes, if we don't take action and stop being in denial of being the target of an ideology that wants to destroy ours and replace it with theirs. Condemning one patriarchy (Christianity) and condoning the other (Islam) does not equate ‘stepping up and taking action’. As said before, we’ve already stepped up when it comes to our own outdated religious beliefs as most Europeans are atheist nowadays, but there is a fine line between self-criticism and self-hatred that Islamic organizations take advantage of to achieve their goal and establish sharia law that would make it impossible for matrarchy to ever take off.


This is also seen in the Solar Return of Notre Dame: SR Descendant is conjunct SR Phaeton 14°14 (fatal crashes) and SR Abdel-Samad 15°30 conjunct natal Algol 14°31 which natally conjuncts Venus 15°51 and Osiris 14°50 and widely conjunct natal Europaeus 13°20
in the 11th House. All of this makes a quintile aspect with the natal 9th house cusp of religious beliefs. The quintile division is derived from the 5 points of the pentagram and is associated with Scorpio elements (destruction, death, pluto), but with a rise in consciousness it can overcome the negative aspects and turn into a creative aspect.

Algol was regarded by the ancients as the most evil star in the heavens and
is often linked to beheading and also associated with heads of state that may experience a fall from grace. As a result, it can also be linked to the act of treason and replacing one ideology with another.

The word ‘alcohol’ comes from the word Algol. The Arab word for alcohol means “the Demon”. Alcohol disintegrates and dries us out, so it literally petrifies. It turns us into zombies, we loose our heads and our sovereignty. It is easy for a dictator to brainwash a nation of drunks. At the same time crime is also fuelled by alcohol, giving us a false sense of bravado. Algol conjuncting Venus and Osiris in the 11th House, which also rules the media does seem to do a pretty good job at brainwashing the Western public to love(Venus) to hate its own culture and consequently allow it to be killed (Osiris) and replaced by another (Algol) by being ignorant of the matter.

SR Asteroid Abdel-Samad is in line with the SR Descendant and SR Phaeton and he (Abdel-Samad) is the son of an imam and used to be member of the Muslim Brotherhood as well, so he is very knowledgeable about Islam, but eventually became sceptic and turned into an atheist. He represents criticism of Islam. As mentioned before in the article I quoted from, critcism of Islam attracts (DC) the crushing of those who speak out (phaeton) conjuncting and resulting with a love (Venus) of it’s own (Europaeus) destruction (Osiris) that coincides with an ideology that also hates the European values that has it’s roots in Christianity (Algol).

SR IC (roots, origins of Europe= Christianity) conj SR Atropos (Atropos means "not to be averted" or "the inevitable”)- Atropos cut the thread and decided the time of death )conj natal Pallas in 8th H
This I see symbolized in Macron’s statement (“as the Notre Dame burns, part of us burns”) and many people’s sentiment, pondering (pallas) upon this awful sight and seeing it as a bad omen of the destruction of Europe that has its roots (IC) in Christianity symbolized by Notre Dame.

SR ABDUL RASOOL (meaning: slave/servant of a messenger which is an individual who was given a new Sharia or code of law by Allah) 11°32 conj Europaeus
11°46 conjunct natal Vertex 11°36. The event is a meeting/clash of religious beliefs (in the sign of Sagitarrius) between the Islamic world vs Europe, particularly its imposing of Shariah law.

SR Mars is conjunct SR Algol conj SR Myrrha (victim of sexual abuse) , conjuncting natal Lilith and Abdul Rasool in the 11th house. Calling upon action to be taken about the unfair practices (Mars conjunct Lilith ) that Shariah Law(Abdulrasool conjunct Lilith) would bring to be taken by the larger group (11th H) concerning this ideological takeover (Algol) which will go along with severe abuse (Myrrha) if not averted.

Speaking of Myrrha, it’s natal placement is conjunct with SR Juno and SR Nemesis.

SR Balam (demon) conjunct natal IC.

Natal Abdulla (means: servant of Allah) is conjunct the North Node which is also conjunct Pandora. I suppose the fact that the Notre Dame has Almanzor conjunct its SN and Abdulla (servant of Allah conjunct it’s NN, shows that it’s dealings with Islam is not just of the past but also part of it’s future and is not over yet) . In the SR, the 9th H cusp of religious beliefs is conjunct the natal NN as well.

SR Abdulla is conjunct natal Hel which is also conjunct natal Lucifer

SR AC conj SR BigBen in Scorpio in 5th H. Notre Dame expresses via the AC that time is ticking (Big Ben) when it comes to finding creative solutions to the problem to avoid its death.

SR Icarus (conj SR Lutetia (ancient name for Paris) conj SR Atlantis) conj Sr Bellerophon (fatal crashes) widely conjunct natal Uranus in 8th. Those are like 3 crashing asteroids conjuncting Paris matching the sudden shocking meeting with Uranus of viewing this destruction (in 8th house).

SR Aldebaran (represents Archangel Michael, God’s military commander
Aldebaran has been in the sign Gemini since 1286 AD, just around the height of the Christian Crusades against Islam, an interesting indicator of conflict between two world schools of thought. 
) conjunct natal Pluto conj natal Capella Fixed star Capella is of the nature of Mars and Mercury. It gives honor, wealth, eminence, renown, a public position of trust and eminent friends, and makes its natives careful, timorous, inquisitive, very fond of knowledge and particularly of novelties. making a 135 degrees with the natal DC and SR SN ( aka the sesquare is a major indicator of unbalance in one's life)
, indicating that a fighting spirit (Aldebaran) is needed to produce deep transformation regarding issues of the past that are propping up again and currently sits uncomfortable and is maladjusted.
As a sidenote, the crusades are often slammed as part of Christianity’s violent past but they were actually a necessary reaction against the Islamic invasion of the past. This self-hatred as mentioned before creates holes in our natural defense mechanisms which makes it easy for Islam to attempt another invasion. This time perhaps more succesful.


There are some other interesting aspects:

SR Bilal (critical degree 0°02) conj natal Melpomene (Grief, loss, mourning.) (29°..) conj natal Balam 0°16 conj natal Abdel-Salam 29°14
SR Balam 1°33 widely conj natal BigBen 0°03
SR jupiter conj natal Neptune
SR moon square natal Chiron
SR Pluto conj natal Anubis/requiem/graves
SR pandora conj natal Mercury
SR MC conj SR Regulus conj 2nd H natal (billionaires vowing to rebuild the property (2nd house) of Notre Dame and restore its reputation?
SR Jupiter conj natal Echo
SR Echo conj natal 8th H cusp

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