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Astroflower
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posted July 03, 2019 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im looking for a list or ideas of
asteroids/uranian planets/tnos/centaurs/etc that mimic or are in any way like Saturn - limiting, stable, restrictive, controlling, dominating, hard, tough, responsible, mature, etc

So what are your ideas and thoughts on this?
there must be a list of them, as there is a list for almost everything lol.

Its personal curiosity....I'd like to do some research on this....there must be more

I can come up with uranian points of Admetos, Kronos.....
Help please!!

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posted July 03, 2019 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 03, 2019 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the first that come to mind for me:

8405 Asbolus
5335 Damocles
50000 Quaoar
38083 Rhadamanthus

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posted July 03, 2019 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From experience, Siva comes to mind.

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posted July 03, 2019 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 12, 2019 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Astroflower
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posted July 13, 2019 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O hey, thanks for the replies!!
I never got any emails saying that anyone responded. I was feeling sad
I will look into the ones listed.
If anyone comes up with more, feel free to list. Im ultra curious.

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posted July 13, 2019 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
duplicate. sorry

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posted July 13, 2019 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a way I suppose one can also use:

Karma - reaping what you sow, debts paid or not, a persons actions towards balance or imbalance

Vesta - dedication, focus, devoted, concentrate on tasks, diligence, modesty, self-discipline, control

Industria - industrious, hardworking, disciplined, diligent (straightwoo), productive,

Enterprise - a difficult undertaking, effort, pursuit, deed, task, mission, business, plan, resourceful,

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posted July 13, 2019 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asbolus: I can understand this choice!
Asbolus is serious, intense, humorless, dedicated, strident, motivated, fearful, unsettling, bitter, caustic, foggy, and acerbic, and brings about ordeals and pessimism; it signifies conspiracy, mystery and oppression, the drive for accomplishment, the need for reputation and acclaim, for self-realization because of deeds done; on the one hand, impeccability in action, solidness and consistency, the ability to take compliments; on the other, reckless regard for reputation, lack of integrity, inability to take compliments.
Asbolus takes life and itself very seriously, and wants to be taken seriously."
markandrewholmes.com

Asbolus: Asbolus was a prophet and seer for the Centaurs; he had an overly stern sense of justice that led to his death in the battle with Hurcules. He is seen as representing management, achievement, leadership and materialism; it would seem he can see into the future especially as concerns loss, injustice or destruction but his words are not always heeded. Astrologer Johathan Dunn notes that Asbolus is prominent in the charts of people who are serious and even bitter. http://www.mysticmarguerite.com

Damocles: Yes, this could work too!
Astrologically, Damocles represents the doom hanging unseen overhead, situations which can only be fully understood by the persons involved in them, and the consequences of getting what we wish for. http://alexasteroidastrology.com/damocles/

Damocles seems to have a strong political flavor to its influence, a grandeur, in which it leans on people and nations, crushing some, making others stronger, clearing away the world stage with a grand sweep and refurnishing it with new scenery and a new cast of characters for another act of the passion play that is life. It forces people to defend and reinforce themselves and their opinions, to continuously justify their presence in the struggle of life...
Generally, Damocles simply indicates one's relationship with temporal power and authority, ability to handle stress and change and lessons about worldly ambition, political ability, beliefs, vision, eccentricities, personal negativity and capacity for heroism. http://markandrewholmes.com/damocles.html

Quaoar: from the info I found, it feels more Uranus-y…..so far
Quaoar impels us to release destructive tendencies and to surrender to the natural order of life, to return to the "sacredness of life"; to realize all things in life are sacred and that it is our responsibility to have respect for natural order, to live in harmony with the rhythms of that order. Quaoar imparts a strong humanitarian influence and may impel a "harmonious revolution" to defend the natural world, or activism regarding issues of ecology, human rights, the animal kingdom, or life in general.
Quaoar's chart placement may also indicate where and how we have a particular sensitivity to chaotic conditions imparting a drive to establish order or create greater harmony and balance. http://www.lunarplanner.com/asteroids-dwarfplanets/Quaoar.html

Astrologically, Quaoar seems to signify creation, procreation, demanding, trying experiences, being placed under a microscope, viewing less attractive aspects, flaws or complexities, scientific activities; also, questioning, constructing, clarifying, revealing, creating abstract mental models, a spirit of discovery, the big picture [says Jonathan Dunn]. http://markandrewholmes.com/quaoar.html

Rhadamanthus: good call!
Astrologically, Rhadamanthus has to do with integrity, justice, judgement and punishments. These may seem harsh, but are generally deserved; scrupulous honesty and an inability to be swayed, corrupted or influenced is a hallmark of individuals with a strong Rhadamanthus placement.  Negative characteristics include inflexibility, sternness, a legalistic approach to situations, and strict adherence to the letter of the law, with no empathy or consideration for human failings. http://alexasteroidastrology.com/rhadamanthus/


Astrologically, Rhadamanthus seems to function much as a judge, or a judge serving as an administrator— stern, upright, self-effacing and self-critical (says Jonathan Dunn). http://markandrewholmes.com/rhadamanthus.html

Siva: seems distinctly Pluto-ish…..
It was hard to find appropriate definitions though. Correct me!
Siva - Divine Masculine Consciousness of Destruction and Regeneration. (1170)

Siva the Great Destroyer  ruling death in vedic mythology. one of the principal Hindu divinities, who was a god of destruction. Siva represents interest in India or oriental culture, objects and influences.Divine Masculine traits dealing with death, destruction, change, rebirth, benevolence by destroying evil, creation of death causers of evil, erasing darkness by using terrifying force and pure masculine consciousness.

(I lost the authors of these ones. Sorry.)

This asteroid (Siva) may grant personal importance to natural forces of destruction, dissolution and purification. Dramatic transformations may be undergone. Fierce and aggressive tendencies may manifest. http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Makeover/storesamples/asteroidsoprah.pdf

Kronos (Uranian astrology):
Planetary Kronos within an astrological chart is all about things that are high up, literally and figuratively.  Authority, heads of state, government, integrity, highest attainable qualities, everything above average, the boss, the expert, bureaucracies and independence.  On the other end of the spectrum we could be dealing with tyranny, big time criminals or despotic rulers. http://theuranianastrologer.com/kronos

Kronos represents a total authoritarian figure and force in astrology to the point in which it could be dictator like. Kronos-unlike Zeus-represents a rigid and a harsh masculine/authority figure. It does whatever it can to keep itself on the top. Whenever planets it touches, Kronos amplifies its power and authority. Kronos also endowed the chart with rationality, practicality and calculating nature that is necessary for taking decisive action and also for completing hard work and labor. In the hard times, Kronos cold and calculating nature is important to move on. http://thecinnamonstars.wordpress.com/2017/09/21/uranian-astrology-zeuskronos-and-leadership/

Admetos (Uranian Astrology):
The effects of Admetos arise from all that is weighty, literally and figuratively.  Whatever it touches within a birth chart it brings into the depth and can have a great transformative power and stabilizing effect, but it can also block whatever it touches creating obstacles and inertia.
Admetos is all things that are stable and immovable http://theuranianastrologer.com/admetos

Astrologically, Admetos is said to indicate small, tight, limited, restricted, shrinking.. http://markandrewholmes.com/admetos-a.html

Blockages, delays, frustrations, patience, hindrances, standstill. Depth, profundity, ‘that which is fundamental’, endurance, focus, specialization. The beginning and the end (the wheel of life), real estate, the few, death. http://straightwoo.com/2016/06/26/the-hypothetical-trans-neptunian-planets/

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posted July 13, 2019 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

* numbers for posted July 13, 2019 at 6:08 a.m.
3811, 4, 389, 9777

* numbers for posted July 13, 2019 at 6:10 a.m.
8405, 5335, 50000, 38083, 1170, h43, h45, 85030

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posted July 13, 2019 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you @mirage29!
Very considerate of you to put the numbers in!
I should of thought of that....
but didn't.
Im glad you did it.


*Sorry y'all for the messy look of my asteroid descriptions. first time I put in such a long comment.

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posted July 16, 2019 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You did a very good job, Astroflower.

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posted July 16, 2019 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks mirage29!
And thanks for the tips. it helped

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posted July 17, 2019 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, mirage!

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posted July 17, 2019 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 17, 2019 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few maybes...

1866 Sisyphus
2102 Tantalus
6630 Skepticus
32532 Thereus
134 Sophrosyne
269 Justitia
315 Constantia
451 Patientia
474 Prudentia
975 Perseverantia

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posted July 22, 2019 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Nadja. again!
You have lots of wonderful ideas.

This batch I definitely agree with! I had them in my asteroid lists but somehow missed the obvious connections to the meaning of Saturn.
I won't define them here because they have been defined here before and they are easy to interpret I think.

Great input everyone! I LOVE having more ideas on this.

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posted July 22, 2019 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also just found another, late last night....
its amazing when others start coming up with ideas, how my brain suddenly starts searching the asteroid lists more deeply.


24899 Dominiona asteroid
do·min·ion
/dəˈminyən/

noun
noun: dominion; plural noun: dominions
1 1. 
sovereignty or control."man's attempt to establish dominion over nature"
2 synonyms:
3 supremacy, ascendancy, dominance, domination, superiority, predominance, preeminence, primacy, hegemony, authority, mastery, control, command, direction, power, sway, rule, government, jurisdiction, sovereignty, suzerainty, lordship, overlordship; More

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posted July 22, 2019 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 22, 2019 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
duplicate again

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Nadja
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posted July 23, 2019 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh. look at that. I have Dominiona almost exactly on my Ascendant. It was new to me so thank you for mentioning it!

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posted July 23, 2019 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astroflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice Nadja!
My dominiona does nothing in my chart....

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