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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted July 13, 2019 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there asteroids that present Madonna and the Who re ?

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mirage29
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posted July 13, 2019 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
Are there asteroids that present 'Madonna and the Who re' ?

Could you please provide a 'reference' to what you're talking about?

Checked Wikipedia and found no information about this.

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posted July 13, 2019 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Unless, it's a psychological reference?

Asteroid VESTA
is an indicator of sexuality and sexual complexes.

frigidity
barrenness
impotence
sterility
virginity
chastity
purity
celibacy
fertility
promiscuity
prostitution
pornography
discrimination in sexuality

REF Page 134. Demetra George & Douglas Bloch,
Asteroid Goddesses: The Mythology, Psychology, and Astrology of the Re-Emerging Feminine. c1986,2003.

Okay. Found the wiki on this.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna–whore_complex

Sigmund Freud (there's an asteroid for that )

More info
- http://www.mindauthor.com/psychology/madonna-***** -complex/

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posted July 13, 2019 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Medusa is a huge tease and then she punishes the men who are attracted to her. I have seen this really play out when it is conj the ASC or something big in the chart

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posted July 18, 2019 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as astrology is concerned asteroids Lilith and Eva come to mind.

Why do you ask?

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posted July 18, 2019 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Medusa is a huge tease and then she punishes the men who are attracted to her. I have seen this really play out when it is conj the ASC or something big in the chart


i have medusa on my venus, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't hit my ascendant

nymph on my ascendant (which is another one you might be interested in TaurusVenusGirl)

@mirage29

i have vesta on my descendant and moon (it's exactly conjunct my moon) retrograde though

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posted July 18, 2019 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
As far as astrology is concerned asteroids Lilith and Eva come to mind.

Why do you ask?


What is Eva, Bismark?

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posted July 19, 2019 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is Eva, Bismark?


I suppose he means asteroid 164 Eva (i.e. Eve, as in Adam and Eve).

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posted July 19, 2019 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
I suppose he means asteroid 164 Eva (i.e. Eve, as in Adam and Eve).

Yah, that's what I meant.

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posted July 20, 2019 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dumuzzi... I had done a thorough search of Vesta, for your chart placements the other day. The environment here at home was not conducive to my forming a post for you {sorry about that}.

Let me say this in sum... the conversations about sex-attitudes, and about the dynamics around your extremely long relationship and your feeling of needing to protect yourself with what's going on with your partner (ex?), right now, FITS your Vesta! Amazing.

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posted July 21, 2019 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Dumuzzi... I had done a thorough search of Vesta, for your chart placements the other day. The environment here at home was not conducive to my forming a post for you {sorry about that}.

Let me say this in sum... the conversations about sex-attitudes, and about the dynamics around your extremely long relationship and your feeling of needing to protect yourself with what's going on with your partner (ex?), right now, FITS your Vesta! Amazing.


it's cool, how have you been feeling anyway?

i have karma (retrograde) and eris on my descendant too, because i'm lucky like that

she's my ex still yeah, saw her yesterday, we talked and spent time together and i feel like she's about to drag me through all kinds of hell with the dumb **** she's doing

because while i'd rather not bother and really felt like i could avoid it, actually talking to her and seeing what's going on and the weight of what's at stake makes things endlessly complicated

idk, time will tell on that one, i'm probably ****** from an occult standpoint im in so ******* deep with her that there hasn't been any going back for a long time

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posted July 24, 2019 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mother mary had vesta(purity) rising

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posted July 24, 2019 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
{Thanks, Dumuzi. .. doing the best I can, physically. still really worried. you're so sweet to ask.}

The relationship with your friend has lasted decades. You've been living together. Not something comfortable if you're trying to 'sever' this extremely life-long relationship. It's as though you are family.

You are doing what you need to do for yourself, and that's really good {as far as having your new boyfriend}.

.. ?She seems to be acting really unconsciously right now. Whatever **** she's going through is one of those episodes we can all have a human turn at going-through in life. Seems ultra heavy and blinding her? She's overtaken right now? Going through her own inner personal hell-realms.

Your participation in her life (after all those years, yes) is 'life' to her. You are part of her balance and support for life that she has known. In other posts, you guys were still loosely tossing around the notion of having a baby together last month? (Maybe in code, that's part of what's going on inside her being?)

She might be starting to go through menopausal shifts and swings?

It's hard enough to live regular life, but when the 'change of life' starts to occur in a woman, it takes a lot of learning some new inner self-management (on her part). Emotions are suddenly sharper to bear for a while. Other unusual symptoms confound things. Maybe she's fighting herself, within her own body? Not just emotional-- it's could be hormonal?

Do you remember some of the TV Archie Bunker episodes of his wife Edith starting to go through menopause?

(topic) Edith Bunker Menopause ('Archie Bunker', humor, early 1970s) [0:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dbl7PBccc

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Bunker

awww...
Keep doing the best you can, for you.
Your presence in her life is important to her. Utterly rejecting her could be super damaging. Give her space, give 'you' space, but be mindful that 'she' is the one going-through serious **** right now. And yeah I know... she's not listening to your good reasoning (which is hard for 'you'-- I understand that place a LOT! LOL).

If the situation were reversed between you, .. then, what would seem the appropriate {compassionate} thing to do? And, remaining 'patient' and giving this time to steep a while, is really good too. Be "present".., and 'detach' the need for you internally to be over-aroused and formally react.
?..That might help her a lot (if she's busy inside, processing everything that's going on). You already know her soooo well. Decades. Let her 'adjust' inside to whatever-it-is with her?

Take good care.

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posted July 24, 2019 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mirage29


i know what having chronic health issues is like firsthand and i feel for you, you ever need to talk let me know

i'd never completely sever it, i talk to her near daily still and saw her a couple days ago we just arent dating or living togehter currently (she expressed a desire for a possible future at points though) because she'll always be family regardless

which is why i know i'll ultimately be the one there if she needs it, but right now that's not a thing and it's her more than me

i'm understanding of her issues, that's why i'm cool with her and why even still i'm doing what i can

shes got a lot going through her 12th house (cap) and just isn't in a good place, but it's not a connection i can sever

even from an occult perspective ive done a lot of binding **** with her so theres that too, obligations i cant break

im not with that guy, he definitely wants to be, but he's too clingy and seems to feel too much really quickly

i spent the night with him last night and he was just too intense tbh with being all over me constantly couldnt be near him without him touching me in some way im generally affectionate but i couldnt even walk outside for a couple of minutes beside him without that

just a lot of intense **** i wasnt really feeling (he has a scorpio mars and both his venus and mars hit my pluto and his moon might too all hard aspects, 1 conjunction 2 oppositions) very possessive too kept talking about making me his etc

i made a couple jokes trying to keep it light and whatnot but yeah definitely not going to date him

he made me feel like id have to gnaw a limb off to get away if it was ever anything more than just sex and one date because thats all it took for him to be next level intense

im not interested in someone trying to own me on any level, need me space

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posted July 26, 2019 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally forget I posted this Q. Thanks for answering, I forgot why I asked but I am sure the reason why will come back to me.

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posted July 27, 2019 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^

Dumuzi!
Hope she'll feel better soon.

What you said about the guy, I can relate to in my own life.
Not into clinging.

I like getting into the other person in a whole kind of way. Person's gotta have 'soul'! I like meaningful deep conversations (intimacy {into-me-see}). And, I can feel perfectly comfortable, in/with 'silence'.

{Again, thanks so much for your offer of being a listening ear! That-alone feels ~empowering.}
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posted July 27, 2019 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More asteroids for you. *heart*

875 Nymphe

1291 Phryne
{to prostitute oneself;
"bad" women, female empowerment, free-spirited;
possibly, to play the sex card.
- http://markandrewholmes.com/phryne.html

9563 Kitty
{cats or catlike behavior (i.e., independence, promiscuity)}.
- http://markandrewholmes.com/kitty-a.html

I've heard some say that Vesta in H8 is frigid? That didn't apply in my case. From early on, my libido ran pretty high.
Didn't take much suggesting to arouse my interests (in those days). LOL.

The sex was the BEST part of marriage.

Placements--- being humorous!

875 Nymphe Taurus 0.52' ON cusp of H5
.. 4890 MotherTeresa Taurus 3.33'33"
.. 10343 Church Virgo 3.33'31" H9

{{wha'??? }}

Venus Taurus 12+ Taurus,
15417 Babylon 13.13.33

annndddd, she remained *ahem* relatively well-'behaved' as she's got a stern chaperone!!
squelch
*No parties. Stay home and study-- do your chores!!!*
opp Saturn-rx Scorpio 16+
ohhh nooooo.

*Laughing*

433 Eros Taurus 21.21' H5
7899 Joya 21.25
868 Lova 21.26
9563 Kitty Taurus 22.29 H5/
cusp H6

1221 Amor Taurus 23.02
37530 Dancing Angel 23.10
3264 Bounty 23.12
52872 Okyrhoe 23.37
1291 Phryne Taurus 23.53 ..

207547 Charitas Taurus 24.54
3742 Sunshine Taurus 24.55

trine Virgo Moon 24.56
conjunct
12238 Actor Virgo 24.53 H(9)Leo

(music) There's Gotta Be Something Better Than This! (scene from broadway Sweet Charity) [6:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVh7MXmSwFo

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posted July 30, 2019 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
^

Dumuzi!
Hope she'll feel better soon.

What you said about the guy, I can relate to in my own life.
Not into clinging.

I like getting into the other person in a whole kind of way. Person's gotta have 'soul'! I like meaningful deep conversations (intimacy {into-me-see}). And, I can feel perfectly comfortable, in/with 'silence'.

{Again, thanks so much for your offer of being a listening ear! That-alone feels ~empowering.}
_________________________________
{will leave more asteroids below}


it was a bit worse than just being clingy, dont feel like getting into it

with my ex i hope something happens that leads to her seeking help because she can't be ok on her own with everything that she has going on and she really needs to professional help because she's not in a good place at all mentally

i can't see her being inclined to seek it until she hits rock bottom if ever unfortunately

and you're welcome, like i said i know that **** 's hard and it can be really isolating, ans well i know you've felt really isolated with it recently

funny how many asteroids listed itt are in my chart

i also have amor r on my descendant, babylon retrograde on my nn, and okyrhoe is on my pluto

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