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stpahd
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From: vancouver, wa usa
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posted September 22, 2019 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all, new here... I've been reading for a bit but haven't been able to post until now. I just discovered I have a 12th house stellium next year and for 2021 an 8th for my solar returns. Because I was researching the ways my own chart reflected my father's death (I never met him), I was curious about how the nodes (North, south) could pertain. I noticed MY nodes line up almost perfectly in the solar returns but my roommate's doesn't.. I had seen your "death asteroids" charts and through an ephemeris noting when my nodes restarted, I accidentally discovered something "bad" could be happening ... to me and my roommate. For instance, on the 31st of Jan, 2021, we both have "Grave" on our descendant and all our kids have something, usually "Grieve" lining up with itself. I thought that might be everyone in the world so I checked out others not living with us and nope. So I would love to know how any of these asteroids lining up actually could mean "death" or is it just symbolic of ANY death, like the death of the relationship?? Grave on the descendant??? Pretty scary .. ugh.. I have to figure out how to post the charts too so bear with me and thank you in advance. PS I think the 12th next year is bad enough and want to prepare- will moving locations help mitigate any 8th house terror?

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stpahd
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posted September 22, 2019 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://link.shutterfly.com/l3uU6W3Yb0 one of the charts.. whew... hope that works. wish that process was easier lol!

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mirage29
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posted September 22, 2019 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Stpahd

How to post images...
scroll down to Sep 19 post.
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000016-2.html

I can't hang out right now, but I read your post and I've had similar chart events; and watched celebrity charts.

18824 'Grave' has an 's' included on the end (Graves).
I believe it was named after an author of a mythology textbook.

- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/820461.The_Greek_Myths

Can't wait to see your chart.
Hope you enjoy your stay.

ADD …
And I know how logical it is to be worried as The World seems on the precipice of destruction-- by Threat of War right now, and by Earth Changes.

As an exercise, see if you can find the asteroids of Divine Protection, Hope and Trust, as well.

We can't do anything about the Will of the people in power with the capacity of weapons that can destroy the atmosphere of our planet.

However, what we CAN do, is attempt to remain centered as we can.. and to energetically assist each other grow and feel 2332 Kalm *asteroid!* and 451 Patienta.

ADD...
For information on relocation-charts (different types of), go here.
(*It's the first page of the other URL provided.)
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000016.html

Vulcanos, earthquakes, floods, tidalwaves.
8422,2202,4464,886,4220,1198,20002


LINKS AT LL-- in order to energize any links you leave, includes [IMG]image codes, you need to remove the 's' from http.

Have a Good Day.

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mirage29
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posted September 22, 2019 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[IMG] code w link here [/img]
https://link.shutterfly.com/l3uU6W3Yb0

remove 's' ?

I've not seen anyone use 'shutterfly' image here.
Once you figure it out, please share how you did it.
I'll update the 'How to post images' thread for the community later.

BTW... There's an Introductions Forum at LL.
You can introduce yourself, and leave a copy of your Basic natal + the 4 main asteroids, there if you'd like? Include Part.of.Fortune and your Vertex in selection (if you're using Astrodienst).

Introductions
Know Two Flakes Are Alike Forum
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Know+Two+Are+Alike&number=23

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Randall
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posted September 22, 2019 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took out your "s" for you.

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stpahd
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posted September 22, 2019 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh thanks!!!!! totally confused... will be back... likely tomorrow! thank you so much! ps still not sure what Graves or anything else implies but HOPING it's not literal death always lol...
this worries me as well:

"Ivy Jacobson says that, "Any planet or angle in the same degree as the Nodes points to a catastrophe, casualty, fatality or tragedy in a horary or natal chart, the more far-reaching when a malefic is involved." In The Way of Astrology, she further notes that during the year that a progressed angle lines up with a natal or progressed node, there will be some tragedy in the life. I have likewise found this to be quite a reliable prediction tool, however in my experience the term “tragic” should be loosely applied unless there is quite substantial back up from other indicators that also points to tragedy. More commonly, the unpleasant experiences in the life during these years are along the lines of accidents, health problems or surgeries, loosing a job, bad credit, divorce and various “catastrophes” and regrettable situations as a result of poor judgment. One does get through the period but it is more difficult and longer lasting if the progressed angle comes first to the progressed node, soon followed by the angular alignment with the natal node.

Mundane Astrologers commonly use the Moon’s True Node and this is the node I learned to use when working a mundane chart. In the New Moon chart prior to killer Hurricane Katrina, Venus was in the degree of the nodes, sitting in the 6th house and in the sign Virgo. The True North Node was 15 Aries 37 and Venus was 15 Virgo 42. Even by aspect Venus suggested sudden “dis-ease”, falling in the house of public health and well-being, opposed by Uranus. There was a second indicator that critical developments were brewing that would affect not just public health and safety but also impacting the civil services sector and emergency relief care workers such as the Red Cross. Jupiter was in a critical degree in the 6th house, ruling all such matters.

Similarly, the eclipse charts of late 2002 featured Neptune in the degree of the True Node prior to such major events as the beginning of the war in Iraq and the Shuttle Columbia tragedy. The Solar Eclipse prior to the historical blackouts in the eastern US of 2003, featured Saturn in the degree of the True Nodes.

On the other hand, for event charts, it is the Mean Node that should be used, the same as for nativities and horary charts. For example, in his book, Anthony Louis illustrates the event chart for the San Francisco earthquake of ‘89 in which the Ascendant fell in the degree of the Mean Nodes. Similarly, the event chart for the earthquake and tsunami in late 2004 showed the Moon to be in the degree of the Moon’s Mean Nodes."

Cuz my nodes in the progressed line up sorta with each other... off a degree or something... see chart... ironically I was in the 89 earthquake lol. Anyways, this I found here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013910.html

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mirage29
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posted September 22, 2019 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW-- Shutter account forces people into giving-up their email address, in order to view your charts. They say they place people on a sales-marketing list, to send them $'deals'$? I've got enough spam, LOL.

Plus now, *warning* -- they must have placed cookies in my computer. I'm getting advertisements from them just from a single visit-- without signing up for membership.

I hope you'll be able to place your chart image on these posts somehow.

*~

I hope that the Links I've provided will help steer you towards useful info-tools for your researching.

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I recall that Alice Portman has done work on death in charts. See her website for articles.
*~

I can sense the 'alarm' you feel---
Is it your intuition, more than asteroids?

Pray about it. How intuitive are you?
Have you had 'hunches' before, that came true?

Follow your gut, and stay safe.
Otherwise, I've heard that Saturn conjunct/crossing back over SN in Capricorn can be a 'fear' generator for people.

Also, personal Saturn transits to outer planets can trigger existential types of anxieties.. These too, shall pass-- albeit, s-l-o-w-l-y.

'Check that out' .. go inside yourself, and try to sense whether that's part of this for you, or whether your intuition is giving you warnings. Depends on how ~kind of psychic/intuitive you've been in your life. You'll know...

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stpahd
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posted September 23, 2019 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can no one see the chart if they click on the link? cuz it says "share" and that's what generated the link... hm...

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stpahd
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posted September 23, 2019 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm... very interesting... could be Saturn on my sun...
Tried Imgur since no one seems to be able to see the other?
https://imgur.com/yXaG94Y or ... <blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/24bCd9M" data-context="false" ><a href="//imgur.com/a/24bCd9M"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I don't know what works lol
Thanks again.. will be back...

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mirage29
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posted September 23, 2019 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stpahd:
Hmm... very interesting... could be Saturn on my sun...
Tried Imgur since no one seems to be able to see the other?

https://imgur.com/yXaG94Y or ... <blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/24bCd9M" data-context="false" ><a href="//imgur.com/a/24bCd9M"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't know what works lol
Thanks again.. will be back...


Fantastic!!! Thanks, Stpahd
I'll remove the 's' from http and see if that works here.
http://imgur.com/yXaG94Y

ADD---
Your link is clickable now.
I see your SR chart for next birthday 6 Jan.
This is not your 'natal' chart -- but you included birthdata.

You also used Sidereal rather than Tropical.
You utilize the Equal House system rather than Placidus.

haha. I lived in that region in the late 1970s. Been through some earthquakes-- one was 5.4 .. creepy feeling when it happens.

I notice you list yourself NOW as from Vancouver, WA, USA.

You listed your SR-Event Chart as same as your place of Birth.
Are you moving your family back home?

You might try looking at the instructional Relocation Astrology link provided above. For your SR, change the "Reference" Place {to where your 'body' will be}.

I'm not an SR-trained nor experienced person. I have a few printed articles on doing SR's.

Have a Great Day.

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stpahd
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posted September 23, 2019 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh! ok, will do. thanks... be back again! we are maybe relocating, my roommate and our kids, to yet another town... I'll do that maybe.

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stpahd
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posted September 23, 2019 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stpahd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
changing the place changes it a bit for the 8th house but not as much the 12th.. I keep forgetting you have to take the "s" out, thanks... I'll be back again! so much interesting news..

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