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JoJo
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posted September 24, 2019 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have insight into what it means for natal Lachesis to conjunct one's descendant and oppose one's Jupiter/Juno conjunction?

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posted September 25, 2019 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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posted September 25, 2019 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's quite difficult to find any real meaning of such smaller players without considering the entire chart. That being said I do believe Lachesis is more potent than many other, as she is one of the Faiths.

Since she is the one that Disposes the Lots of Faith, it would seem to me that you have a current or incoming 'significant other(s)' that is preordained as per soul contract.

This however goes for quite a lot of us.
But perhaps you have that placement to become especially aware of this.

But then again, I would absolutely not say that it 'means' this. You can consider it a possibility, however.

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posted September 25, 2019 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
120 Lachesis .. can have to do with "things taking their course."

Just because things are in 'opposition' doesn't always make it a negative-- especially with Jupiter involved.

Quote from JUNO-Jupiter aspects
Demetra George Douglas Block
Asteroid Goddesses {2nd ed, 2003}
page 180, 181

JUNO-JUPITER Aspects
The relatedness principle (Juno)
combines with the expansive/broadening urge (Jupiter).
This combination emphasizes the mythic process symbolized by Juno and Jupiter as 'idealized' husband and wife.
.. Harmonious aspects
describe a search for truth and meaning in and through relationships.
Often, these individuals will experience the desire for a complete "meeting of the minds" on mental, emotional, sexual, and spiritual levels.
They may also choose to work with a partner for the advancement of a shared philosophical, educational, or religious belief system.

.. Stressful aspects
point to potential conflict between 'the ideas' and 'the reality' of one's relationship.
These individuals, like Juno herself,
may experience frustration, resentment, and despair in their intimate partnerships ..
and may subsequently strive to correct the inequalities and injustices.
This aspect may also depict an exaggerated emphasis on the importance of relationships.

Juno-Jupiter individuals
are attracted to philosophical and adventuresome types.
If the projection is overdone,
the partner [you get] may be arrogant, self-righteous, and extravagant.

The resolution of these challenges
lies in the development of a mutually agreeable moral and philosophical code,
which allows for balance and equality within a partnership.
For the health of the planet, this balance should extend to relationships between all men and women ..

Chart example
.. individual whose marriages have emulated the royal prominence of Jupiter and Juno include..
* Queen Elizabeth II, with Juno conjunct Jupiter in a first house (for her, in Aquarius).
{chart link below}
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Edit 26Sep2019--
Juno zodiac-sign correction from Cancer to LEO.
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JUNO in sign of LEO
individuals need admiration and excitement
in their relationship.
The romantic rites of courtship need to continue into the marriage,
and the person must take pride in the partner.
Being taken for granted, rejected, or ignored, can produce egocentric, selfish behavior, and inappropriate means of gaining attention.

Chart example
Ballerina Margot Fonteyn, with Juno conjunct Neptune in Leo, has had an 'artistically creative partnership', with Rudolf Nureyev.

JUNO in the 1st House
correlates 'personal identity' (H1)
with being a partner to someone else.
Relationship = self-expression!
This individual may feel more secure to 'be' themselves, when they have the support of a partner.
This individual must learn the lesson of
how to initiate relationship encounters,
how to approach others,
and how to get along with them.

The most important relationship interactions
will occur in 'how' one presents oneself to others.

Chart example
Foreign ambassador and diplomat Clare Booth Luce was born with Juno Rising, in the sign of Sagittarius. {Chart link provided.}

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Luce,_Clare_Boothe

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Elizabeth_II,_Queen_of_England

_________________________
Including most of the entire article on 120 Lachesis here, as the blue color is difficult to read-through on his website without printing it.
- http://markandrewholmes.com/lachesis.html

120 Lachesis
was discovered on April 10, 1872 by Alphonse Borrelly at Marseilles, France.
It has a period of 5 years, 182 days,
and is slightly less than 130 miles in diameter.

It was named for one of the Moirae, or Fates in Greek mythology (whom the Romans knew as Parcae).
[It was] Lachesis, who determined the 'length' of the thread of life.
The others were Klotho and Atropos.

Martha Lang-Wescott says Lachesis signifies
* intervention,
* assessment midway into a sequence,
* what 'interrupts' an evolving sequence from going as one would have expected (from the way it began or is underway).

Marianne Alexander adds
* [it's] what happens when something is allowed to continue without intervention;
* or something that occurs by 'default'.

One may also say Lachesis indicates
* deciding the 'length or duration' of something,
* putting a stop to something (or trying to).

end/quote

- http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/226538.Asteroid_Goddesses

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posted September 26, 2019 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting... I thought Atropos meant endings... I'm so confused!

I have a kite formation in my chart consisting of ASC/Jupiter/Juno, Chiron/Saturn, and Neptune, opposing my Pluto/Uranus conjunction.

Now with Lachesis on my descendant and is involved with the kite, I'm especially curious what it all means for me.

I also have a Mercury, Pluto/Uranus, Moon T-square with moon being the focal point.


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posted September 26, 2019 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Research Lachesis and bring back the info. I don't use this one

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posted September 26, 2019 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for providing your chart, JoJo.

I had a copy of your chart that was in synastry with another person. It was fuzzy. Couldn't 'see' what sign your Juno was in. Looked like Cancer, but now I see it's LEO.

Corrected "research material" provided for you above.

There's a LOT of VERY very negative, error-filled, terror-and-guilt inciting, even potentially-harmful interpretations of asteroids, that you may find available online.

Remember that "Greek Drama" stories deliberately use imagination to stir emotions as well as illustrate morals, etc. Like some of our dramatic television shows and movies are created to do-- for "entertainment" purposes.


In short! haha

These Fates concern TIME--
the measuring of periods and blocks of time,
and what happens in-between.

e.g. First Grade in school.
First day -- to Last day.
{Klotho, to Atropos}.
There's the "meanwhile" {Lachesis} of living out your daily life-experience in First Grade, and the different things that happen in the course and flow of the days of that time period-- {Lachesis}.


Klotho.. is like {the chart of} an 'inception'/conception moment.
The 'start' moment.
Includes in it, all the circumstances and sense-atmosphere encountered, the 'set' around the happenstance of first-meeting, the first-event. 'Circumstantial-set of context'.

Lachesis.. would be the middle 'stuffings'-- the 'contents' of event itself, measuring from 'start'{Klotho} to reaching the declared 'finish' point. {Atropos|.

haha.. You're a musician.
So!
You announce there's going to be a concert event at a certain venue, specific time and town and place. Might be cold there, might be night-time, could be in a good-or-bad part of town. People there will have a certain mood and the town has a personality of its own. The venue might be organized and helpful for its Talent, or, you walk in and have to clean up, and work around obstacles and bad lighting, etc.
{Klotho, the start}.

Next, you go there.. set up.. and you
Play your Music--
There are the little things that go on in the course of the production that could make this event more unique and unlike the other events you've put-on. Similar, yet, not-same.
Every group event is different somehow in their energetic characteristics-- has its own qualities..
.. an easy-crowd, a tough-crowd.
.. Your instruments and the band stays tuned and everyone in beautiful coordination, flow and sync,
.. and! there can occur glitches in various spots that you didn't expect and need to adapt-to or circumvent. Maybe you suddenly find yourself having to do it 'unplugged' and still have a successful night. Someone might be drunk and make a scene. Some kind of audience-distraction -- for good or other.
The concert-event itself, the contents of the experience of that particular performance-night has 'body' to it.
{Lachesis .. what 'happens' in the middle of the start/Klotho and the end/Atropos}.

Now.
You pack up.
The Event is finished. {Atropos}
You among yourselves evaluate what occurred. You're on the bus with your 'stuff' either on the way home, or to your next gig.
You have 'tied the bow', closed the door of this particular 'concert event'. You process it. Inside you evaluate your experience as "good concert", fantastic concert, even a meh~so-so you've had better-days but you were still good?? LOL.
{Atropos.. it ended, and you process it. Let it go.}

Because this experience Ended{Atropos},
it automatically implies a new beginning. You're back 'on the road again' to your next event.

Laughing, Dating-relationships can also wind up being like that, right?

(music) The Entertainer (Billy Joel in concert, Nashville, 2014) [5:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxL756JK1Y

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posted September 26, 2019 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much Mirage! This is wonderful!

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posted September 26, 2019 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You warmed my heart, JoJo.

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