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LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon
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posted December 18, 2019 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Hygeia conjunct Chiron in my natal chart.
I reckon it's a placement you can find in healers' chart... Thoughts?

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posted December 18, 2019 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You haven't provided enough information.

What House? {placidus}
What Zodiac Sign?
What other aspects are they making in your chart to planets/luminaries/points, etc?

What's your age now?

Where is transiting Hygeia and transiting Chiron NOW in your chart?
Do these make any aspects to your natal Hygeia-Chiron, and other planets/luminaries/points?

Do you have any real and true interest in becoming a Healer?
.. Is this "why" you posted?

What previous experiences have you had personally that would indicate that you have talents for this?

What type or KIND of a Healer are you interested in becoming?

What have 'you' been thinking?

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posted December 18, 2019 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pain with health things. Have you had this?

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posted December 18, 2019 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, hello Mirage and Ami! I love your insights on this forum (and on Ami's website) and felt very special seeing that you both replied to my post.

It is in my 6th house, in Gemini. Squares my Jupiter and my Venus, opposes my Uranus, trines my south node, plus a bunch of minor aspects (semisextile moon, sesquisquare pluto, sextile vesta, quinqueundecile juno,neptune and saturn)


I am attempting to post my chart but photobucket seems to be down at the moment...

I am a little over 30 and I am a licensed medical practitioner, always wanted to become one since childhood, even took a gap year before university because I didn't get into med school at first attempt but I knew what I wanted and nothing else would do.

I like to broad my horizons beyond traditional western medicine, in fact I am completing a 3-years course to qualify in alternative healing with herbs and natural remedies.

I have a gentle approach to healing, very empathic, but strongly try to shield myself from all the issues that this work projects onto me and at the same time try to be very "matter of factly" rather than "literary" in my caregiving. (the use of the word literary is not casual - I write poetry and published a book that incidentally won a national award - but this is a story for later)

As for health things bringing me pain, I remember suffering from very painful colics in childhood, around 6-7 years old, which required hospitalization but turned out to be psychosomatic.

I have been told that when 4-5 years old I had been willingly poisoned by someone who was my babysitter but hated me - she was family, too. And suffered colics even this time.

Sorry for the long post

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posted December 18, 2019 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon!
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I'm so impressed by your achievements and ambitions.

Chiron in the 6th House, according to Barbara Hand Clow {author} is a mark of a person with ability to be a Healer.

Hygeia is an asteroid having to do with Healing, cleanliness, germs. She's an expression of Pallas Athene as the goddess of 'miraculous' healing.

Hygeia is also tied to "Fitness"-- in case you/anyone would incorporate that into your work too.
{ref. Martha Lang-Wescott}

I'm a 7+ Gemini H6 Taurus cusp.
With 24+ Virgo Moon H(9)Leo,
and an 11+ Sag Rising.

Your Jupiter and Venus are in Cancer.. ?
We may share a Jupiter Cancer?


I've watched both Hygeia and Chiron.
I have a grand air trine of those to my Sun.
. . .

I'm horrified over what happened to you, at the hands of that babysitter??

You've been experiencing transits with Hygeia in your 6th House, and having Hygeia Returns?

Gemini can relate to the mind, too.
Hygeia + Gemini .. healing and mind, thinking.
Also rules Hands..


Don't discount that the colics and hospitalization in childhood was 'just' psychosomatic. Some people use that term to de-legitimize pain, invalidating the person as being 'mental' for it? Maybe even that money was "just wasted" on what was tied to the mind or emotions? Even used as an opportunity to shame.
.. I know that contemporarily it means that the psyche, the mind, has the capability of holding tremendous subconscious power over the body.
.. I recall being in labor with my first child. Even small muscles in my abdomen would respond to simple images I was having while daydreaming or thinking. That was surprising.

Gemini also related to family members (your evil babysitter!! who hurt you).

Can't wait to see your chart.

There are asteroids having to do with 'herbal-medicines'.

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posted December 18, 2019 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you LeoSag. You are a sweetie!

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posted December 19, 2019 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage, thank you for being so kind! <3
I'm so impressed by your psychic healing abilities. I'd love to see how aura reading plays out in a clinical context, it all seems so modern.

Here where I am would be near impossible to openly use such advanced methods of human healing without them being billed as quackery - in fact I do keep a low profile about my alternative medicine course and beliefs when dealing with colleagues. It focuses on homeopathy and using herbs to heal, Bach flowers and so on, but no reflexology - would love to know further about it.

I need to admit that I don't know how to monitor transits in my natal chart, since I don't know what software should be using.

What happened to me with the babysitter was completely out of the blue, my family did not expect it. The irony of it is that she never admitted having anything to do with that.

Now that I think about my early childhood, when I was 4yo I was also kidnapped, stolen from my mother and this babysitter (she is my cousin) when they were in a shop, where she wanted my mother to buy her some clothes.

I was a very talkative and precocious child, I have been told that I charmed adults and I remember liking the attention of people, even reveling in it.

When we were in the shop I started talking and soon a bunch of people gathered around me, everything was going as usual but they got distracted and after a while I was nowhere to be found, they even called the cops, to no avail.

Long story short, I was brought back to the shop - calm and happy as nothing had happened - two hours later by two young men. My mother fainted at the sight, and when she came back to her senses the boys had disappeared.

To the people who asked me what happened, I replied that a sweet lady in the crowd that was gathered around me had asked me to go shopping, and that was why I had gone with her.

About the psychosomatic pains, they happened when my parents separated, but this is a story for later.

I've been reading the topic about chart posting. I attempt to post my and let's hope for the best

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posted December 19, 2019 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you LeoSag. You are a sweetie!




Ami <3 <3 <3

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posted December 19, 2019 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my natal chart with Hygeia and love asteroids, since I'm quite interested in how they play in my chart

[img]https://i.imgur.com/1bSCV7V.png[/img]

https://i.imgur.com/1bSCV7V.png

and here's the version with Dejanira, Karma, Dna

[img]https://i.imgur.com/rmtGdL9.png[/img]

https://i.imgur.com/rmtGdL9.png

Hope this works

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mirage29
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posted December 20, 2019 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to remove the 's' from http in order to energize any urls/links you leave at LL.

Also, removing the 's' from http will coax the IMG Codes to work, and post your graphics.

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To get an account go here.
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The url I left in previous post on 'how to post your chart', also has other information on various charts you can find at Astrodienst {aka astro.com}.


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"I'm so impressed by your psychic healing abilities. I'd love to see how aura reading plays out in a clinical context, it all seems so modern."
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LeoSag.. I do not brand nor consider self to be any kind of psychic-healer or psychic-reader. I feel sad and apologize if I gave you that false-impression?

I told you all that info NOT to impress but to describe placements similar to yours.

Yes I have stories describing clinical use, from my personal experiences.... But that's not what you came here for.

*~

Is the herb-homeopathy alternative healing program you attend, in the northwest US?

For now, it's going to take a long time for insurances to accept billing. You'll have to tell the clients to give cash. Unfortunately that (again) restricts this kind of care only to those that can afford it.

Leo with Sag Rising.. as a child, "very talkative, precocious, and charming .." it fits. Those young men seemed like they helped you find your mother. Sometimes, GOOD things happen by thoughtful teens and caring strangers in our midst.

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posted February 19, 2020 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Mirage and Ami!
I finally found my way back to this thread and to our long lost discussion. A lot of things have happened in these 2 months

" I do not brand nor consider self to be any kind of psychic-healer or psychic-reader. I feel sad and apologize if I gave you that false-impression? "

I didn't mean that... I am not a native english speaker, and I used the word "psychic" meaning a whole different thing. In fact I looked up the word on a vocabulary upon reading your comment, and laughed at my mistake. I apologize, did not mean to offend you in any way. In fact it was meant to be a compliment, though clumsy (in pure Sag style)

"I told you all that info NOT to impress but to describe placements similar to yours."
At last I managed to post my natal chart, would love some insights from you. And would be thrilled to know what our similar placements are
http://i.imgur.com/r2PByDK.png (without asteroids)
http://i.imgur.com/88RT4LJ.png (with asteroids)

"Yes I have stories describing clinical use, from my personal experiences.... But that's not what you came here for."
I'd love to hear them, but maybe this is not the place

"Is the herb-homeopathy alternative healing program you attend, in the northwest US?"
No, it is in Europe. And you're so right about the unfair restriction of this kind of care.

"Leo with Sag Rising.. as a child, "very talkative, precocious, and charming .." it fits. Those young men seemed like they helped you find your mother. Sometimes, GOOD things happen by thoughtful teens and caring strangers in our midst."
QUOTE!! (Heart smiley, I keep clicking on it but won't appear in the message I'm writing )

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posted February 19, 2020 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon

Happy to see you are back with us.

{edit back into your post, and remove the 's' from http}

For Heart? .. use smaller-case letter h. Capital H won't work.

: heart : -- but no spaces touching the colon and inner letters. :h{and}t:

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posted February 19, 2020 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon:

QUOTE!!

(Heart smiley, I keep clicking on it but won't appear in the message I'm writing )


hmmmm.

Look on the line where my Heart is.
See the date all in red ink? Feb..
Go all the way to the right.
See the last icon with word Quote?
Click that.

A new LL window should appear.
It will have a copy of THIS message you're reading.

Scroll down to after "[/Quote]".
Start typing your message after that.

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You should also see a 'split screen'.
On the upper screen, you see the reply window for you to type a new message in.

Down below that, all the way on the bottom,
you should see your thread and the posts Ami, you, and I, have exchanged.

You can't type in those below the line.
Only type on the screen-split 'above' the line.

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posted February 19, 2020 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be pain with the body. Do you have medical issues that plague you? Also, in which house is the Chiron?

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posted February 20, 2020 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been looking at your chart for several hours.

It amazes me when people choose professions that match their chart, and some asteroids as well.

Did you know you have asteroid 1814 Bach around 19.14 conjunct your MC 20.25? (You mentioned Bach Flower Remedies.)

You have the asteroid indicating homeopathic health stationed-retrograde near your Jupiter r Pisces.

Two asteroids about pharmaceuticals {herbs are natural), and 'ritual healing' flanking your Uranus r Sagittarius H12, and one that may be conjunct your Moon 17+ Taurus along with an asteroid having to do with feeling 'gut' instincts.

You have Chiron conjunct Hygeia, conjunct an asteroid associated with making accurate diagnoses, in your 6th (near the asteroid Artemis, protector of young girls) trine your MC-Bach Libra.

In the region or general region where you are studying for your herbs/flowers, and alternative medicine, is there a town named "Talent"?

About your book? ..
What was your book about? ..
Congrats on your award for that!! woot woot!!

I'm so glad you are an empathic physician.
The world certainly needs more of you.

I'm amazed at people who come here to LL, for whom English is not their primary language.
Good Job!

How are your classes going?

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posted February 21, 2020 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon:
I have Hygeia conjunct Chiron in my natal chart.
I reckon it's a placement you can find in healers' chart... Thoughts?

Are you a healer?

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posted February 21, 2020 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Are you a healer?

Read previous posts.

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posted February 22, 2020 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Ami, thank you for your accurate, insightful questions

Some days ago I was reading your articles about a certain former royal couple and I was like OMG this is so accurate!

My Chiron is in 6th house, in Gemini.

It is quite aspected too:
Uranus opposite Chiron orb -0°32'
Venus square Chiron orb +0°48' (don't tell me it's eternal heartache, please...)
Chiron trine Midheaven orb +1°10' (issues with one's career?)
Jupiter square Chiron orb -3°08' (issues with material possessions?)
Pluto sesqui-quadrate Chiron orb +0°20'
Chiron opposite Ascendant orb -7°41' (do people see me as "Chirotic"?)
Chiron sextile Vesta orb +2°50'

As for health issues, I'm pretty delicate and susceptible to stress. What bothers me most are recurrent migraines if I'm not careful to avoid stress, if I do not eat\sleep well, etc. and sometimes I have unexplainable sudden sharp pains in my upper body, with no clinical reason, that force me to find a place to lay down.

I used to suffer from colics as a child and once occurred to me under severe stress even in my adult life.

Lots of love

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posted February 22, 2020 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage, you're such a sweetheart! I feel so special whenever we exchange, even through a screen

I certainly didn't know about Bach asteroid conjuncting my MC. Bach flowers were my first love in terms of alternative healing, I had just started college and while I was being imbued with the notions of conventional healing, I bumped into a very well made book about Bach flowers and immediately took to them. I was self-taught, but I started to experiment on myself and had great benefit.

I'm curious about the pharmaceutical asteroids. Since I was small I was always the one handling medicines at home, every time someone had to take meds I was asked to read the labels out loud and check what the doctor had written on the prescriptions.
When I was 7 I already remembered names and posologies of my grandma's meds.

Gut instincts... They are a mixed blessing for me. I can have very strong feelings about how a certain thing would go, and most of the time I am not quite satisfied with the possible outcome, so I become restless...

About Chiron conjunct Hygeia conjunct the asteroid associated with making accurate diagnoses in my 6th house of daily tasks and short trips - you gave me shivers. I'm thinking of the time I had a short trip to a small town not very far from my own, and I accidentally met an aunt of mine that had a ulcer on her nipple, whose general practitioner had dismissed as an infection. I asked to see the wound and immediately recognized she had a rare kind of cancer whose first symptoms are dermatological. I was not even that experienced, but I talked to her daughter to get her checked and I turned out to be right, in fact she had a mastectomy and all that comes with it, but she's still alive.

You said it's near the asteroid Artemis, protector of young girls (= I always wanted to care for women) and trines MC-Bach Libra. Isn't Libra feminine in nature, as a sign?

There actually is a place Talent nearby where I study, I'm amazed! :O

I write poetry, so this is what my book is about. Love\heartache (if you fancy taking a look to my other thread in the interpersonal forum, that explains a lot - and I love me some Mirage insights on my charts!) poetry actually, and quite frisky too

Thank you for the congrats and your kindness! I don't even find the right words to say how much this means to me :blushes:

My classes are not going so well because the school headmaster had various personal issues so the classes are suspended for now. I hope everything will turn out fine!

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posted February 22, 2020 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you LeoSag. You are so sweet.

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posted February 24, 2020 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((Thank you sooooo much, LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon! You are a Delight! .. Forgive me if I appear and disappear at LL at times. I'm dealing with a health matter for my self right now... I live in an apartment complex and have to deal with next wall neighbors, who play games on sense-surround woofer system. I'm in such pain right now... I really need a relocation, and I'm an orphaned elder. I have no one to fend for me, so, the people where I do volunteer work have created a Living Will for me to sign ?tomorrow, because I'm REALLY worried about being in such pain where I lose my eyesight and feel incredibly dizzy right now from *woofers*…. next wall. omg...
So. I'm sorry for sporadic appearances at LL!!! )

ooohhhhh you get migraines??? I can relate.
Part of what my neighbor's WOOFERS trigger are migraine after migraine.
The landlord has TOLD them to lower it, but they don't get punished.
I'm in pain ALL the time from them now.

omg... this place is 'shaking down' from their woofers. I'm going to have to get off the computer desk top we have. It's right behind their equipment. It's a narrow long apartment. …

I might have to go sit in a restaurant (order coffee) and read/study some books for a while, to get away from them.

Sending you Blessings, and hugs!!!

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posted February 29, 2020 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Are you a healer?

Hi hypatia! Yes, I am. If you fancy taking a look at my chart, any thoughts are welcome

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posted February 29, 2020 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
((Thank you sooooo much, LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon! You are a Delight! .. Forgive me if I appear and disappear at LL at times. I'm dealing with a health matter for my self right now... I live in an apartment complex and have to deal with next wall neighbors, who play games on sense-surround woofer system. I'm in such pain right now... I really need a relocation, and I'm an orphaned elder. I have no one to fend for me, so, the people where I do volunteer work have created a Living Will for me to sign ?tomorrow, because I'm REALLY worried about being in such pain where I lose my eyesight and feel incredibly dizzy right now from *woofers*…. next wall. omg...
So. I'm sorry for sporadic appearances at LL!!! )

ooohhhhh you get migraines??? I can relate.
Part of what my neighbor's WOOFERS trigger are migraine after migraine.
The landlord has TOLD them to lower it, but they don't get punished.
I'm in pain ALL the time from them now.

omg... this place is 'shaking down' from their woofers. I'm going to have to get off the computer desk top we have. It's right behind their equipment. It's a narrow long apartment. …

I might have to go sit in a restaurant (order coffee) and read/study some books for a while, to get away from them.

Sending you Blessings, and hugs!!!


Oh Mirage, I feel so much for you! How are you feeling now?

I am so sensitive to noise, I can sooooo relate!

Right now... It's 2 days my head hurts with no apparent reason.

It's awful that you have to live practically under the same roof with these people and the landlord does nothing? It's just shameful.

Can't wait to hear from you.
Lots of love

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posted February 29, 2020 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a Beautiful Heart..
Thankyou for your kind response.

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You said,
"It's 2 days my head hurts with no apparent reason."

Maybe.. Do you have seasonal-type allergies?
Sometimes pollen, spores, and molds can trigger allergies, and the body's irritation-response can include headache and feeling of being low-grade-miserable or just 'off'.
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If you think there might be a tie, consider otc antihistamine for a few days. See if it makes a difference in how your head feels?

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posted March 03, 2020 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
You have a Beautiful Heart..
Thankyou for your kind response.

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You said,
"It's 2 days my head hurts with no apparent reason."

Maybe.. Do you have seasonal-type allergies?
Sometimes pollen, spores, and molds can trigger allergies, and the body's irritation-response can include headache and feeling of being low-grade-miserable or just 'off'.
..
If you think there might be a tie, consider otc antihistamine for a few days. See if it makes a difference in how your head feels?


Hi, Mirage!

I've been reading your message before it was edited and really I felt in my heart your blessings. I was so very moved

I shall investigate the link between migraines and the transits on my Aries NN, you gave me an interesting input...

Coronavirus is not that big here (yet) so I try to be very cautious and hope for the best. Fingers crossed for the whole world, we're in this together after all.

I noticed from another thread that you're a Sag rising like me: two of a kind, aren't we?

Lots of love :*

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