posted April 15, 2020 06:56 PM            

But also, it entirely depends on the man in question- how does he handle it. Is he still running on the subconscious programming of a patriarchal society? (That stuff goes deeper in all of us than a lot of people realise).

I have noticed as well, Lilith dominant people tend to stand out from society (namely, the patriarchal society, as that's what we've been living in for a while now). They are either deeply entrenched in the society and have their own way of controlling it from the inside out, OR they are on the outsides of it, and the societal norms seem unable to touch the person.

Lilith dominant women do often have trouble with other women because they, usually, have control over themselves (even just in a subconscious way) in the world, and seem 'untouchable' or more powerful than women who are still deeply under the societal-thumb. They see the 'freedom' and desire it themselves, but usually it comes in a way that just triggers their own issues and those unresolved issues get projected onto the Lilith Woman.

Lilith in general gets projected on a lot because the energy doesn't quite fit any box. It's FREE energy, instinctual and powerful, in that it doesn't confine itself or bend/break under pressure. For that reason, it often faces rejection in the greater collective. At least until more people become accustomed to that energy in themselves.

posted April 16, 2020 11:57 AM            

So, in my opinion even those who have a strong Lilith in their Natal chart, they might not handle it well when other women’s Lilith touches their planets.
That’s my opinion!

I’ve read somewhere that when you have a strong Lilith, it’s tougher for you to feel other people’s lilith because you are “more comfortable with this energy”, I don’t think it’s true since the ladies I’ve had main issues in my life, they all had a strong Lilith on their own. Mine would touch a couple of their planets and usually that was enough for them to create problems.

posted April 19, 2020 02:24 PM            

asteroid Lilith is conjunct my Mercury

those who adore me are on their own path of authenticity—real recognize real. those who have an issue with ‘me’ (an idea of me) are typically the women, strangers, who themselves heavily rely on a mask (ego rules) to support their false sense of power. my Venus is in the 11th house so I love Women a lot. a shame this happens with a few but c’est la vie, h8trs gonna h8.

posted April 19, 2020 03:44 PM            

There are 4 different Liliths.
3 hypotheticals
1 asteroid, and
1 fixed star.

I have a book by one of the first researchers of Lilith. Thing is, the exquisite amount of delineations describe placements of h58 Waldemath Black Moon.
DelphineGloriaJay(author)

I'm relatively certain these descriptions can possibly be applied to the following "hypothetical" Liliths.

* h21 "natural apogee" Lilith (interpolated
* Mean (average) Black Moon Lilith {astrodienst symbol}

* h13 "oscillating perigee" TRUE LILITTH

* h58 Waldemath Dark Moon / Black Moon Lilith

1181 Lilith (the asteroid)

THEN!,
Fixed Star Algol (25+ Taurus) was also referred to as Lilith. .. the Lilith Star.

After reading your posts, this book I have here, describes some of the effects you are relating, but approaches the 'reasons' for it from a different perspective.

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While I was reading this research, transiting Mean Lilith was conjunct Chiron in Aries.

Happens that I had the television news on. They were discussing the Coronavirus-19 and need for Ventilators (airway, lungs). I was astounded, because, there are keywords and rulership lists in this book describing Lilith that seem to pertain to the news items! ..

~heh! even relating to the Bats! Scientists think the virus was in that animal and transformed to begin to affect humans?!

Amazing lists!

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My mean Lilith is in sign of Sagittarius,
'True Lilith' is in Scorpio
… BOTH of those are inside my H12scorp.

h58 Waldemath Lilith is in Virgo H(9)leo.
USA Chart has her Waldemath only a degree from my own,
same house, same sign.
The description is so current to news in these past years!!

1181 Lilith (asteroid) is Capricorn H2.

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Another book I have describes the "asteroid" Lilith.

Demetra George, Dennis Bloch.
Asteroid Goddesses (1986,2003),
page 190.
1181 Lilith (Power Issues)
quote
.. In interpersonal relationships,
her responses range
from complete withdrawal to bickering and sexual manipulation,
to skillful negotiation and compromise.
Because of the primal resentment that arises from being rejected, Lilith contains a tremendous amount of repressed anger.
This suppressed rage, when activated, has the potential to erupt in sexual domination and violence.

On the positive side,--
Lilith teaches us the art of consensus,
by which the transformative energy of Mars-Pluto can be used to fuse rather than destroy relationships.

In chart analysis,
a prominent Lilith displays the quality of personal independence,
and a refusal to submit to another
or to compromise one's beliefs,
{with consequence of forfeiting}
the potential for 'resolution', also.
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Lilith's aspects to the planets
depict how the contacted-planet deals with the issue of "conflict resolution."

For example,
Lilith-Ceres focuses on resolving conflict in family matters;
Lilith-Jupiter contacts may involve religious beliefs;
with Lilith-Venus the focus is on love and sex, etc.

In synastry--
Lilith contacts signify the need for the individuals to learn "negotiation" ;
as well as potential problems involving sexual fear, rejection, anger, and suspicion.

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SpiderLite..
I've seen threads on asteroid PALLAS Athene, that describe some of the conflict you described.

posted April 19, 2020 04:18 PM            

Lilith gets a wider orb.
Up to 6 degrees.
If in same sign/house as sun, wider aspect accepted.

Dignity --- Lilith is
. exalted in Gemini
. dignified in Capricorn
. detriment in Cancer
. co-ruler of Capricorn (with Saturn)