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stone1
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posted July 05, 2020 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and Saturn, pluto?

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posted July 05, 2020 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stone!! Oh my!
That's a HUMONGOUS request!

One of the ways for you to approach this,
would be for you to delve into Mythological stories behind those planets.

In the mythologies, find the characters that you think fit. Look to see if there's an asteroid named for that.

Fit it into your own chart.
Do you think it validates the Planet Placement in your chart?

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posted July 05, 2020 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune - Poseidon
Saturn - Karma
Pluto - Lucifer

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posted July 05, 2020 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got quite interested in asteroid lately, mostly because I heard a theory that once human is conscious of the existence of certain asteroid, then it starts to work. DO you believe that? I find it intriguing haha.
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Stone!! Oh my!
That's a HUMONGOUS request!

One of the ways for you to approach this,
would be for you to delve into Mythological stories behind those planets.

In the mythologies, find the characters that you think fit. Look to see if there's an asteroid named for that.

Fit it into your own chart.
Do you think it validates the Planet Placement in your chart?


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posted July 05, 2020 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Neptune - Poseidon
Saturn - Karma
Pluto - Lucifer

Thank you!
I heard Poseidon is more like a positive side of Neptune, wasn't sure about that.
Pluto - Lucifer are interesting match!

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posted July 05, 2020 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Neptune - Poseidon
Saturn - Karma
Pluto - Lucifer

So true, especially of Saturn.

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posted July 05, 2020 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Stone1, you could explore the fates.n
Not certain if they might identify with the bigger powers. Arachne 407 is a spider type asteroid and might be Plutonian?

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posted July 05, 2020 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's a good one arachne - my honey's moon conjunct his arachne and pluto
Is "fate" an asteroid?
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@Stone1, you could explore the fates.n
Not certain if they might identify with the bigger powers. Arachne 407 is a spider type asteroid and might be Plutonian?

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posted July 06, 2020 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stone1,
Here's a bit on The three fates~ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai
Klotho 97 Spinner
Lachesis 120 Alloter
Atropos 273 Cutter


These might not fit, they are the sisters in charge of Destiny, but you may see something seems comparative for you.

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posted July 06, 2020 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, guess what i found:

My lunar nodes conjunct my lover's Moira
His moira conjunct my lachesis
His klotho conjunct (is sandwiched by) my sun/juno/lachesis and Nessus
His vertex conjunct my atropos

that sounds scary

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Stone1,
Here's a bit on The three fates~ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai
Klotho 97 Spinner
Lachesis 120 Alloter
Atropos 273 Cutter


These might not fit, they are the sisters in charge of Destiny, but you may see something seems comparative for you.


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posted July 06, 2020 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I just wrote a response and *poof*

Stone1, I wouldn't put too much into that
but you haven't any Atropos, she's the one I think might be worst. Have you thought about
Kaali 4227? She's a bit like Pluto/Saturn in combination. Maybe she'll help your study?

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posted July 06, 2020 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 06, 2020 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Kaali conjunct my jupiter
My Kaali loosely conjunct my destinn, conjunct his Pholus
His atropo doesn't conjunct my stuff (I need to check more asteroid)

So you are saying his chart is bad, his vertex conjunct my atropo meaning he will die because of me?


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posted July 06, 2020 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stone1:
His Kaali conjunct my jupiter
My Kaali loosely conjunct my destinn, conjunct his Pholus
His atropo doesn't conjunct my stuff (I need to check more asteroid)

So you are saying his chart is bad, his vertex conjunct my atropo meaning he will die because of me?


Nope. Not saying anything like that. I honestly think it takes a lot of study and tbh as far a finality, I don't see it or look for it. Dark energies can bring difficult times and endings but I'll share an instance in my life where a relationship brought death. My former bf, who wasn't good to me, cost me a very good job. I took another job because he made me decide to change my shift. Despite warnings that the new place would eat me alive. These ithers who advised me were right. My MC was visibly a death punch.
Back to your chart. Don't look at this as an actual death. Examine all you can, with points, signs, houses and possibly use midpoint with transits to better see how you both coordinate as a one because you as a couple are one.

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posted July 06, 2020 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your words - we have a lot of differences and now working on it. I am quite scorpian in love so I hope we won't end badly, because I feel our being together is very fated.
Speaking about your experience - do you have atropo synastry in your charts that you think caused the bad job?

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Nope. Not saying anything like that. I honestly think it takes a lot of study and tbh as far a finality, I don't see it or look for it. Dark energies can bring difficult times and endings but I'll share an instance in my life where a relationship brought death. My former bf, who wasn't good to me, cost me a very good job. I took another job because he made me decide to change my shift. Despite warnings that the new place would eat me alive. These ithers who advised me were right. My MC was visibly a death punch.
Back to your chart. Don't look at this as an actual death. Examine all you can, with points, signs, houses and possibly use midpoint with transits to better see how you both coordinate as a [b] one
because you as a couple are one. [/B]

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posted July 06, 2020 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stone1, you're so very welcome.

I'll try to dig the info out regarding that job loss. I was so proud of that one too, the solid one I quit to please someone else who merely was inserted to manipulated me Hindsight is 20/ 20.
My life really derailed too. Let me work on getting those aspects. Do you want to see them with or w/o my then mate in the sauce, so to speak?

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posted July 06, 2020 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sure with your mate
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Stone1, you're so very welcome.

I'll try to dig the info out regarding that job loss. I was so proud of that one too, the solid one I quit to please someone else who merely was inserted to manipulated me Hindsight is 20/ 20.
My life really derailed too. Let me work on getting those aspects. Do you want to see them with or w/o my then mate in the sauce, so to speak?


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posted July 06, 2020 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stone1 I'll get the data with him in it in a bit.

Ok .. this is my progression from then ~

MC was  0°58'58"  Scorpio
6th was   (twins, my boss) Gemini
7th  (the other - romantic) was   Cancer
There was an 8th house with Fanale 3478 at that time. Fanale prog it was square with the natal Saturn. Natal Saturn opposed the Prog MC.

(There might be a few natal/transits to add here too)

My natal vertex was square the prog Venus,  sextile the prog Pluto. Finally it was square my prog MC. Prog Apophis opposed natal MC too.(Sure wish I knew a good astrologer then!)

In prog declination  my 8th house was 20° parallel these in my natal:
Aesculapia  'resurrection'  20° 7'
Blarney   'persuasion'  20°15'
Varros   'tomb'  20°21
..
..
..

[b]  because you are curious of the dynamics with him/I and the fated endings of my then chart. ..

I took our midpoint here and applied the 'then' transits'.

In our combined 7th house we had
Vertex cnj Moira
Atropos  trine NN
8th Fanale sextile  Klotho ,semisexile Moira,
tight semisexile to vertex, square Sun & Moon
Atropos was transit between 5/6th houses.
Combined MC Sag, 6th Leo our professional
sides of life burnt up like a bad plantation.
He was ok despite it all.

Composite  (blended) /transit
Vertex squared Lachesis, a sister of Fates see below too.
Destinn/Klotho  trine
Destinn/Moira  square
Morata/Apophis  square
Klotho/Lachesis  opposition
Moira/Saturn trine
Moira/ Lachesis  square
Atropos/ Apophis   square
Fanale/ Uranus & Morata square


 

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posted July 07, 2020 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonmystic, thanks for the effort writing it down.
There are a lot of new info for me, first thing comes to my mind - is it really useful to apply transit asteroid (in face, i never heard of the two asteroids you mentioned) aspect into the picture? I never thought of this idea, and there are so many asteroids! On the other hand, maybe it should only be interpreted/applied when in conjunction and opposition?
I never use vertex axis aspects either unless it is in conjunction and opposition.
Is 6th leo with 10th sag a bad combination?
my lover has sag in 6th and aries for 10th...
Atropos sq Aphophis sounds scary!


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Stone1 I'll get the data with him in it in a bit.

Ok .. this is my progression from then ~

MC was  0°58'58"  Scorpio
6th was   (twins, my boss) Gemini
7th  (the other - romantic) was   Cancer
There was an 8th house with Fanale 3478 at that time. Fanale prog it was square with the natal Saturn. Natal Saturn opposed the Prog MC.

(There might be a few natal/transits to add here too)

My natal vertex was square the prog Venus,  sextile the prog Pluto. Finally it was square my prog MC. Prog Apophis opposed natal MC too.(Sure wish I knew a good astrologer then!)

In prog declination  my 8th house was 20° parallel these in my natal:
Aesculapia  'resurrection'  20° 7'
Blarney   'persuasion'  20°15'
Varros   'tomb'  20°21
..
..
..

[b]  because you are curious of the dynamics with him/I and the fated endings of my then chart. ..

I took our midpoint here and applied the 'then' transits'.

In our combined 7th house we had
Vertex cnj Moira
Atropos  trine NN
8th Fanale sextile  Klotho ,semisexile Moira,
tight semisexile to vertex, square Sun & Moon
Atropos was transit between 5/6th houses.
Combined MC Sag, 6th Leo our professional
sides of life burnt up like a bad plantation.
He was ok despite it all.

Composite  (blended) /transit
Vertex squared Lachesis, a sister of Fates see below too.
Destinn/Klotho  trine
Destinn/Moira  square
Morata/Apophis  square
Klotho/Lachesis  opposition
Moira/Saturn trine
Moira/ Lachesis  square
Atropos/ Apophis   square
Fanale/ Uranus & Morata square


 


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