posted November 09, 2020 11:12 AM            

The following asteroids are on my Pisces Moon 20’ at the exact same degree:
- Sekhmet in Sagittarius 20’
- Hathor in Sagittarius 20’
- Eros in Sagittarius 20’
- Nemesis in Sagittarius 20’
- Kaali in Cancer 20’
- Serpe in Taurus 20’

Coupled with:
- Lucifer conjunct my MC 0’
- Hermes conjunct my Venus 1’ and inconjunct my MC 0’

I am wondering if I’m destructive or will be my own undoing?

posted November 14, 2020 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:
I don't read this as self destructive per se,but it certainly points to you(and mother) as very powerful women.nemeses might suggest you take you power for granted and not see how much fate is involved in your achievements.
With these placements I would look at Neptune to see if there are any hard aspects that might suggest self destructive impulses

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Thanks Todd.

My Neptune is widely conjunct my Venus 6’ and Saturn 1’ and opposite my Jupiter 0’. Neptune is the ruler of my descendant. Neptune doesn’t do very much in my chart and neither does my Moon.

Hmmm...interesting. Since they are tied to the Moon, would say more so powerful emotions?

Most of those same asteroids in my natal are also on my Draco Sun in Sag and will soon be on my progressed Sun in Sag 20’.

I decided to check my mom’s chart and she has:

Sun in Sag 23’
Sekhmet in Sag 24’
Hathor in Pisces 23’
Nemesis in Cap quincunx her Leo Moon 0’

posted November 15, 2020 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ashes2Phoenix:
Thanks Todd.

My Neptune is widely conjunct my Venus 6’ and Saturn 1’ and opposite my Jupiter 0’. Neptune is the ruler of my descendant. Neptune doesn’t do very much in my chart and neither does my Moon.

Hmmm...interesting. Since they are tied to the Moon, would say more so powerful emotions?

Most of those same asteroids in my natal are also on my Draco Sun in Sag and will soon be on my progressed Sun in Sag 20’.

I decided to check my mom’s chart and she has:

Sun in Sag 23’
Sekhmet in Sag 24’
Hathor in Pisces 23’
Nemesis in Cap quincunx her Leo Moon 0’

We seem to have similar patterns in that respect.

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posted November 15, 2020 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
Hmmm seems more that it is a coincidence you and your mother have the same specific asteroids conjunct a Light in your chart.Hathor is sometimes equated with sekhet or consider her mother.Hathor actually ties into the Osiris/Isis/Horus myth as Hathor means the house of Horus. You might check those gods if you haven't already.the temple to Hathor at fenders in Egypt is one of 2 sites of megalithic structures in Egypt. The other is the Giza plateau with the sphinx and the great pyramid.megalithic structures are very old,at least 4000 years old and likely much older by 10000s years.
With your moon square to your moms sun and including the sane significant asteroids,I think you might have have previous lives in ancient Egypt as mother and daughter.sekhmet was also called the mother of pharaohs so any past lives might have even been predynastic,5-6 thousand years.
I wonder what could in your present lives reflect this ancient heritage.

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Wow Todd, you're really good. I will investigate further. At first glance, we both have each other's Horus/Isis in hard aspect to another's Moons exact.

My mother and I have definitely known each other in previous lives. I noticed that a while ago in our charts. We both have mutual asteroid Karma and South Node contacts to our lights. My Karma on her Sun exact and my South Node on her Moon. Her Karma on my South Node/Moon exact.

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posted November 24, 2020 11:11 AM            

Would have to do with 'ego' issues --
In the biblical stories, Lucifer was given one of the most important and 'visible' jobs in Heaven. Was the most-Beautiful angel ever created. His whole body was covered with jewels and doubled as a musical instrument with which he led the choruses of Angels. That was his job, in God's administration and hierarchy.

When the angels sang praises to God, Lucifer 'got the idea' inside himself that the praises and adorations that his music inspired were ACTUALLY meant for HIMSELF, instead of being an instrument for The Boss who created him for that position.

In a way, he 'forgot' what he was supposed to do, and went on an ego-trip.

As the angels lavished praises and adoration, he mistakenly 'absorbed' all the adulation for himself, then 'acted' on it.

He led a revolt, and Got himself Fired!!!

So.. POSSIBLY?? You could get 'tempted' to take credit for things that are NOT necessarily yours. Failing to be careful to give credit where credit is due, and while making that mistake {consciously, or unconsciously}, one can potentially 'fall' {into disgrace} from it {if not careful}.
With Lucifer being AT the MC, is an indicator of possible leadership and having an ability to Influence. Must remember, it's not 'ALL' and always 'about you.' Must maintain Balance considering that.

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I want to take this opportunity, to send you some good vibes.
It takes a LOT of humility to openly speak of one's Self-destructive tendencies, and 'how' and 'where' this could apply to yourself.

I give you LOADS of Credit.
Some of the people who come here to Asteroid Astrology, are so openly transparent about themselves, and REALLY DO want to work towards being good people. The Best version of ourselves.

Sending you some praise... that you Deserve.

2340 Hathor is about finding Love, means "to 'feel' the love," to BE loving, to 'look' for love; it's about attracting interest, attracting something 'new' and interesting, being attractive.

She is the Egyptian goddess of sky, Love, Beauty, and Music.

You didn't mention the House that EACH of your asteroids occupy,
except we know that 'the MC' is the cusp of the 10th House.

Your Moon Pisces must be quite sensitive.

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ADDING ...

H12 is traditionally known as the House of self-undoing.

Fixed Star Aldebaran
.. {in zodiac Gemini/constellation Taurus}
and
Fixed Star Unukalhai
.. {in zodiac Scorpio}

are among the Fixed Stars
where one has to be quite-careful;
where one MUST be squeaky-honest,
especially in your professions.

349 Dembowska ..
can mean overdrive, 'self-blocking',
and not being ready for something;
'where' one 'messes up'.

10120 Ypres ..
inability to exploit advantage,
lack of advanced planning
and/or coping with sudden disaster

{ref, ?MAH}

posted November 25, 2020 11:48 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
2340 Hathor is about finding Love, means "to 'feel' the love," to BE loving, to 'look' for love; it's about attracting interest, attracting something 'new' and interesting, being attractive.

She is the Egyptian goddess of sky, Love, Beauty, and Music.

You didn't mention the House that EACH of your asteroids occupy,
except we know that 'the MC' is the cusp of the 10th House.

Your Moon Pisces must be quite sensitive.

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ADDING ...

H12 is traditionally known as the House of self-undoing.

Fixed Star Aldebaran
.. {in zodiac Gemini/constellation Taurus}
and
Fixed Star Unukalhai
.. {in zodiac Scorpio}

are among the Fixed Stars
where one has to be quite-careful;
where one MUST be squeaky-honest,
especially in your professions.

349 Dembowska ..
can mean overdrive, 'self-blocking',
and not being ready for something;
'where' one 'messes up'.

10120 Ypres ..
inability to exploit advantage,
lack of advanced planning
and/or coping with sudden disaster

{ref, ?MAH}

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I had NO IDEA what time it was when I published this post. I see now, that there's the TIMESTAMP of "11:11" and that this is the "11th" reply to your OP. .. LOL[/B]

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Thank you so much for your thorough interpretation, much appreciated.

11:11, now that is divine!

You seem to be on to something with the additional asteroids and fixed stars you provided. I have:

Ypres conjunct my IC in Sagittarius 0'
Unukalhai trine my Moon 0'
Aldebaran square Ascendant 1'

All of the Sagittarius asteroids (including Karma) land in my 4th house. I have many issues around my family - Nessus square Venus in the 4th. I have a lot of childhood trauma which also means I've developed quite a few limiting beliefs and self-sabotaging behavior. I do not get on with my parents.

I have two "asteroid clusters" in my chart and they all are focused around the IC/MC axis. I have the Sagittarius asteroid clusters in my 4th house, then other asteroids clustered on MC exactly. I just can't figure out why.

My Pisces Moon is in my 7th house. I am very sensitive, but sensitivity was not tolerated when I was growing up. I was berated if I cried and my feelings were constantly stomped on, so I learned to develop a hard shell. I empathize with those who grew up in turbulent homes. Home and family should be safe and when it isn't safe...

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My South Node is in my 12th house and I'm very comfortable with 12th house energy. I'm actually quite fascinated with the 12th house and spend a lot of my time studying this house. It is the house of "self" or whatever you believe to be the self - undoing. The 12th is the house of consciousness and the physical, as well as the proverbial "self", will dissolve within this house...or reject the dissolution.

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posted November 26, 2020 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
[b]1930 Lucifer .. at your MC
{MC, the most publicly visible part of your chart}

Would have to do with 'ego' issues --
In the biblical stories, Lucifer was given one of the most important and 'visible' jobs in Heaven. Was the most-Beautiful angel ever created. His whole body was covered with jewels and doubled as a musical instrument with which he led the choruses of Angels. That was his job, in God's administration and hierarchy.

When the angels sang praises to God, Lucifer 'got the idea' inside himself that the praises and adorations that his music inspired were ACTUALLY meant for HIMSELF, instead of being an instrument for The Boss who created him for that position.

In a way, he 'forgot' what he was supposed to do, and went on an ego-trip.

As the angels lavished praises and adoration, he mistakenly 'absorbed' all the adulation for himself, then 'acted' on it.

He led a revolt, and Got himself Fired!!!

So.. POSSIBLY?? You could get 'tempted' to take credit for things that are NOT necessarily yours. Failing to be careful to give credit where credit is due, and while making that mistake {consciously, or unconsciously}, one can potentially 'fall' {into disgrace} from it {if not careful}.

With Lucifer being AT the MC, is an indicator of possible leadership and having an ability to Influence. Must remember, it's not 'ALL' and always 'about you.' Must maintain Balance considering that.
[/B]

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I often wonder about the asteroid Lucifer interpretations I've read here. There is always the focus on Lucifer when he fell from heaven and became Satan, but never who Lucifer was prior to his fall. Lucifer was the morning star. He was Venus. He represented many of the archetypes associated with Venus and other venusian-like goddesses like Hathor. Why is the former only prescribed and not the latter? Could Lucifer represent those with a predilection to venusian activities like art, music, and dance? I'm just thinking out loud and not to make "myself feel better." I just wonder about Lucifer...

posted November 26, 2020 12:31 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:
Hi
It would be interesting to see a midpoint composite of you and your mother with the Egyptian asteroids and your named asteroids. You needn't post your name asteroids but just note the degrees they are at

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Hey Todd,

Here is a link to our composite with Egyptian asteroids. The only thing I notice is that the Horus/Osiris are on my natal angles exactly. Osiris on my IC and Horus on DSC.

posted November 26, 2020 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Ashes2Phoenix:
Hey Todd,

Here is a link to our composite with Egyptian asteroids. The only thing I notice is that the Horus/Osiris are on my natal angles exactly. Osiris on my IC and Horus on DSC.

Chart: https://imgur.com/a/32hxXl3

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Hmmm there are still a dynamic with the charts.sekhmet conjunct conjunct youbmoms sum.
Horus square Hathor with the midpoint square to Isis and Osiris conjunct the composite sun.hmmm Osiris conjunct sun makes me think of resurrection...maybe latent powers,mom seems to be sekhmet and the isis-Hathor/Horus remains coherent to a rebirth/resurrection if powers.maybe you and your .other might look Intl psychic healing. might look at asteroid aura 1488

posted November 26, 2020 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ashes2Phoenix:
I often wonder about the asteroid Lucifer interpretations I've read here. There is always the focus on Lucifer when he fell from heaven and became Satan, but never who Lucifer was prior to his fall. Lucifer was the morning star. He was Venus. He represented many of the archetypes associated with Venus and other venusian-like goddesses like Hathor. Why is the former only prescribed and not the latter? Could Lucifer represent those with a predilection to venusian activities like art, music, and dance? I'm just thinking out loud and not to make "myself feel better." I just wonder about Lucifer...

This also coming from someone who believes each individual is god. That could be quite Luciferian hehehe.

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posted December 14, 2020 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
Or Gnostic
A interesting point from cayce's " Life of Jesus",is that there are no men mentioned about the teachers of Jesus.elzibeth mother of John the baptist imparted the astrological timing.there was another woman mention who I can't remember right now who was called a wise woman.in addition Jesus learned from a group of women Essene teachers in India/parthia.it seems the Essene was a philosophy that had centers in many different cultures.these branches were colored by their culture but remained Essene in their teaching

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Yes or at there source hermetic.

Something interesting happened before I made this thread. I was in a book store selling old books. As the book store clerk was looking through my books I was browsing the aisles and stopped at the new age section. I was thumbing through books, none of them really interesting until I picked up a book dedicated to the hermetic texts. I looked at the cover, read the summary and decided based on a feeling to purchase the book. I’d never heard off the hermetic texts or ever thought about Hermes (or Thoth). I’m not sure why I bought the book, it just felt right.

As I started reading it when I arrived home, something made me look up Hermes in my chart. Didn’t even know if Hermes would be an asteroid. To my surprise, it’s directly conjunct my Venus and quincunx my MC. Mercury is also my chart-ruler and ruler of my MC. Interesting.

I’m not entirely sure why I wrote this.

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My mother is definitely Sekhmet.

I wonder if based on other trends in my chart, if I’m Hathor. There is a story about Sekhmet with a blood lust mercilessly killing anyone. She was tricked into getting drunk with wine so that she may fall asleep. When she awoke, she was Hathor.

Could our mutual Hathor and Sekhmet aspects in our charts reflect that story? Reflect our transition from Sekhmet to Hathor? How that transition occurs indicated by the aspect?

posted December 17, 2020 05:14 PM            

I have across EPG d that books that I am meant to read just come me to me.I don't search out particular subjects....books just come to me.so I have a bit of familiarity with what you are writing about.
picking up a book relating to Hermes shows latent occult experiences.
Hermes trismegistus is a ancient/mythological author of occult/hermetic/Magic books.
Clearly you and your mother have a occult past life.

I would say psychic and astral abilities.
From the name you use and the nature of the myths that surround you,I feel there are experiences in your current life,dark experiences whose karma you are trying to understand.
Hathor and sekhmet show your lives reflect a primal struggle of evolution.

It may be that life has been harsh and unforgiving and you are seeking knowledge of the hidden life forces that are surrounding you.

posted December 17, 2020 05:14 PM            

I have across EPG d that books that I am meant to read just come me to me.I don't search out particular subjects....books just come to me.so I have a bit of familiarity with what you are writing about.
picking up a book relating to Hermes shows latent occult experiences.
Hermes trismegistus is a ancient/mythological author of occult/hermetic/Magic books.
Clearly you and your mother have a occult past life.

I would say psychic and astral abilities.
From the name you use and the nature of the myths that surround you,I feel there are experiences in your current life,dark experiences whose karma you are trying to understand.
Hathor and sekhmet show your lives reflect a primal struggle of evolution.

It may be that life has been harsh and unforgiving and you are seeking knowledge of the hidden life forces that are surrounding you.