posted November 22, 2020 10:08 PM            

I'm just getting into astrology and had a reading done where the astrologer mentioned this conjunction and how exact it was, but that he wasn't sure if it meant anything. He wasn't sure about the importance of asteroids in general. what do you guys think of the below?

pluto 17'32 in scorpio
sado 17'31 in scorpio

I just want to know. Even if it's bad news. It's kind of hard to imagine myself as a sadist considering 1. I don't really date. 2. The few times I have, I was the more submissive partner. I'm female and (mostly) straight, if that's useful to know. I'd appreciate any information on this conjunction. Thank you for reading!

posted November 23, 2020 09:27 AM            

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posted November 23, 2020 12:26 PM            

118230 Sado can have alternative meanings..
expanding on it.

Sado is ALSO.. a name-asteroid.
It's a name associated to a 'place' -- in Japan--
And, a 'cultural' sacred-hospitality ritual.

- http://www.visitsado.com/en/

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sado,_Niigata

Perhaps 'by coincidence' in your life's journey, you might encounter people with a connection to that place; or even, decide to vacation there.

By chance, you can meet other people who went, or 'hear' about it in conversation.

Perhaps you'll find or purchase a product that was made there, etc.

You could receive an invitation to participate in the following--

Sado is associated with a cultural sacred-hospitality ritual, called
"The Way of Tea".

(topic) Way of Tea ceremony (Japan Video Topics, Jun 2020)
[5:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d42fu5nqKw

yt notes quote--
" Sadō – the way of tea –
is the art that perhaps best expresses the Japanese tradition of hospitality.
Rules for each action,
from whisking and serving the tea to any movement made in the tea room,
are designed in accordance with
the four key principles of sadō –
* harmony,
* respect,
* purity, and
* tranquility.
. .
Constant practice in the etiquette of making and serving tea, develops the "spirit of sadō."
. .
This old and subtle Japanese art is now becoming popular worldwide."

- http://www.ancient.eu/Japanese_Tea_Ceremony/

*~

Asteroids can have an array of meanings, which can be highlighted as 'words' associated with experiences you may have, encounters, during parts of your entire Life's Journey.

Can be very surprising.

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FOUR PRINCIPLES
- http://zenwondersmatcha.com.au/pages/4-principles-of-chado (Sado)
QUOTE
4 Principles Of 'Chado' {'Sado'}
Chado ( The way of Tea) is a Japanese cultural practice involving the preparation and serving of Matcha to a guest, primarily influenced by the Zen Buddhism--
and it is based around 4 core principles: Harmony, Respect, Purity and Tranquility ( Wa, Kei, Sei and Jaku).
. .
By practicing Chado,
the aim is to experience and integrate these principles into one's daily life.

* Wa (和 or “harmony”
embodies the feeling of oneness with nature and people.
It is expressed through a positive interaction between host and guest, guest and guest, and more in general between man and nature.
It extends outside of the tea room
through a way of living that is free from desire to impress, compete and dominate,
enabling a merging and transcending of individual egos and roles.

* Kei (敬 or "respect"
is the ability to understand and accept others, even in those situations when one does not agree with another.
By being kind and humble towards others
we give respect and encourage others to do the same.
Respect is also extended towards utensils and objects,
as a result not only of the human effort invested to produce them, but also to the simple fact that they came to existence through Nature.

* Sei (清 or “purity
refers to the ceremonial purity of the setting and utensils
but, most importantly,
to the ability to treat oneself and others with a pure and open heart.

This purity is not one of absolute cleanliness but one of 'pure intention'.
From the moment of intention-setting,
through the process of purification and cleaning of the environment,
up to the enjoying and admiration of one's effort,
'one's heart and soul are also being purified'.

* Jaku (寂 or "tranquility",
the fourth principle,
is not really a goal for which to strive
but a natural result of following the first three principles of harmony, respect and purity.

This tranquility is not to be confused with a sort of dreamy psychological state.
Instead it represents
the dynamic force of one’s innermost being
that, stemming from the heart-felt realization of the uniqueness of each moment,
embraces and infuses the practice of Tea by giving significance to it.

Experiencing the four principles in the mundane act of preparing and drinking tea can extend to all that one does.

Through the practice of Chado,
one attempts to immerse themselves in a series of movements of serving tea,
learning to appreciate each moment and carefully finishing what they are doing instead of hurrying on.
The ultimate aim of Chado is to develop the ability to experience a deep sense of satisfaction and appreciation through the simple act of drinking tea.

By developing and practicing this ability through tea
we may also find ourselves extending this feeling of satisfaction and appreciation towards a lot of other daily activities,
and perhaps even towards our relationships.

posted November 23, 2020 01:07 PM            

Placidus_flamingo, you mentioned the tight Scorpio 17+ conjunction.

Fixed Star ZubenEschamali could be in a conjunction to your Pluto? {Can type it into added-selections, if you use astro.com}

You might want to research the meaning of your Pluto with this Star, including the issues of the House it is located in.

posted November 29, 2020 11:45 PM            

So I suppose wrt sado, there are a few different interpretations: I could see a controlled sadism, there's also this info from wiki about the island:

"the island's remoteness meant that it soon became a place of banishment for difficult or inconvenient Japanese figures. Exile to remote locations such as Sado was a very serious punishment, second only to the death penalty, and people were not expected to return." which to me indicates punishment, exile, and political failures. I wonder what kinds of ideas required this kind of punishment?

And there's the tea ceremony/hospitality angle, which i actually identify with the most as i worked in hospitality for years and come from a culture where it is highly valued. I'm going to keep all of these possible interpretations in mind, though. I will let you know if i get any insight on this.

Hi mirage29, thank you so much for the info on Chado and for the suggestion. You're right, my pluto does also conjunct ZubenEschamali in the 9th house.

Here is what I could find on this star-- it means northern claw (it used to be part of scorpio) and "has the planetary nature of Jupiter and Mercury (religious mind, thoughtful, philosophical, writer on religious or similar subjects) but later writers have considered it similar to Jupiter and Mars, and Alvidas likens it to Mars in sextile to Jupiter. Symbolically called the Full Price, it gives good fortune, high ambition, beneficence, honor, riches, and permanent happiness. This star is much noted for particular sharpness of mind and intellect, and there is often a very powerful psychic quality there also – or psychotic if the planets and aspects are of a harsh enough nature. For good or ill it will go to the extremes of what a human mind can achieve."

I wonder what a pluto conjunction would do...?

posted December 02, 2020 08:21 AM            

I have looked into asteroids myself, but nothing is "bad" or "grandet" in astrolog
y , eaven more if you are analising an isolated aspect

posted December 02, 2020 03:23 PM            

Placidus_flamingo... find the meanings of natal 9th House + Pluto + Scorpio.

Fixed Star and any asteroids would complement the presence of Pluto.

posted December 02, 2020 04:08 PM            

Yours Pluto is retro? I guess not

So If we compare our Plutos, we can say they are similar because they are also at almost the same degree.

What differs them are the house and the aspects, sado asteroid too, but in a much minor way in my opinion.

posted December 03, 2020 08:08 AM            

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Originally posted by placidus_flamingo:
haha you got it. Yes I am a bit worried, but I think I get what you're saying. I should start with the personal planets. My pluto is NOT retrograde, but venus is (and it's in the 12th...). Thanks for chiming in. That's interesting that we share a pluto degree. Are you saying that sharing the degree of the sign supersedes sign and house placement? Is there a resource/book you'd recommend for reading about degrees in astrology? My moon at 29 degrees is what got me going down this rabbit hole in the first place

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Yeah , I had a lot to read about all my Planets and its sign and house placements, and would always like to read when I found a New book

Indeed It is interesting, when I noticed our Plutos where closeby I wanted to know ehre my sado is!
But aperently you are a bit older and maybe our Plutos arent at the exact same degree , *.30 starts to count the next degree I think, so mine being 17.44 wwould bbe counted as 18° .
I think exact degrees can say a lot , there are sabyan simblos, fixed stars like Sirius in Câncer or Regulus in Leo
By personal experience I can relate to some of mine.
Taking the planets signs and houses as a basis youre able to analise the energy eaven more specific/ personal when you análise the exact degrees

In a sinastry when you share the same degree with someone between two planets, this sure has a lot to say and can act like a magnet or repulsor making you maybe not eaven have the chance to see it unfolding on material planes trough the houses

My mother has some books about astrology and there is one about sabian simbols, I would always enjoy reeding my degrees, I cant be more specific about the book, but in the internet you find the sabian simbols ( I think there are 2 varieties)

The MC and Ac Axis are Very importante tio highlighying the área/degrees they fall into

Your venus must be somewhere on the other side of where mine is
These data my mother told me of my syster that has rVenus too, my self have 4 planets retro but none personal, I dont mind them very much, they talk about retro being something you bring from past that you have to work on, I like to see it in my case as having access to other areas too, but i dont know If um wrong

The last degrees of the sign they would have also the energy of the next sign.