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VeronicaNicole
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posted August 03, 2021 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had seen this in the astro database over the years but only just recently started to learn about it. I read something about it in the LL library maybe 2-3 months ago that sparked my interest. In my natal chart GA is @ 13°46 Sagittarius while my saturn is at 13°33. Saturn is the most sacred planet to me tied with the moon. So this struck me as significant.


There isn't a huge amount of info on it either astrologically or scientifically. I haven't read everything on the internet but it's anything but cut and dry. It is an anomaly that appears to be devouring everything around it. Moving 600km per second. It's not a black hole though & there is nothing like it in the known universe. Obviously that's where much of the fascination comes it.


I ran across something suggesting this may be the physical manifestation of that god/creator source. This resonated highly with me the second that idea was introduced to me. The fact that it is in such a tight conjunction to my saturn strengthens my belief. Saturn is a catalyst for the ultimate authority governing our universe. He isn't above the law, he is the law. I think of Saturn as representing God & Jupiter is Christ his son.

I remember my exhusband has his ascendant @ 12° Sagittarius & his moon @ 14°44' so he is likely influenced by this significantly as well.

My pops was very saturian. Saturn's energy mirrors that of my father's. He passed in April 2016 during my saturn return. He was an astrologer too. (My interest developed entirely on its own though, he wasn't what made me start) idk..maybe there is an astrology gene or something. He mentioned my saturn return often..telling me it's going to beat my ass but after it is done you will be a different person so to speak. It was lost on me at the time. I was about 26/27, my return hit around Xmas 2015 & boy oh boy he was not kidding. Saturn has kind of become the link to my pops after he died. Like my earth father & my heavenly father are one in the same now.


My father also has asteroids truth @ 14°00 & our surname asteroid (well a variation of it. It's Spanish so it starts with de then the significant part of our name is separated with the space. Many of my extended family members have dropped the de though. The asteroid has the significant part of my name with a single letter where the de is. We have a very unique name, I have yet to meet another with it. Anyways... the surname asteroid in his chart is @ 14°03' - both less than a degree away so I am going to count it.

I ran my other family members. My mom's got nothing anywhere near it. My sister has some pretty close conjunctions between her natal & Draco charts. Her Draco truth conjunct natal GA at 1° & her Draco GA is conjunct natal vertex 1° also.

I just want to get to know this a little better & hoping some of you have your own insight. It's rather new to me & I find it fascinating.

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posted August 04, 2021 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This seems to make someone very attractive when Venus is here

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posted August 04, 2021 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My AC is there. I don't find myself as
Ami Anne said with Venus but my Arabic pt of Beauty is there too. My life was always fortunate with suitors.
Somewhat picky and attracting many types, that was a challenge though. I can say this aspect for me is like being a lightbulb with moths coming in my radius.

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posted August 05, 2021 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is interesting MM!

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posted August 05, 2021 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun is exactly opposite the great attractor at 13 Gemini, which means that the Earth/Moon in my heliocentric chart is exactly conjunct the GA. Not sure what, if any, significance that has though.

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posted August 07, 2021 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjorkstrand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapley_Supercluster is the attractor at about 2° sccorpio.
and then there's the godfather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC_1101 at 13° scorpio

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posted August 29, 2021 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are all interesting responses. Thank you!

@bjorkstrand,

Thanks for the links. I read about the shapley supercluster being pulled towards the GA but the godfather is new to me. I have my kaali @1° Scorpio & Venus @ 11° Scorpio. I found it funny how the virgo cluster is mentioned alot in articles about the GA & it pulling VC towards it. I have always been a magnet for virgos. Once 1 goes away another one pops right up. I've learned to love em though. Moon woman & sun men, all between the 9-12 degree range.

MM, I find your post very interesting. It reinforces my initial feeling when stumbling across the GA. I want to know how the different planets and points are expressed here. From your explanation is seems you give off a non-threatening and easily approachable demeanor that makes people feel comfortable around you. The part of beauty conjuncting the ascendant I can't imagine you not being physically attractive. The having the GA here I think would enhance your physical beauty and still have that invisible force attracting at a subconscious level too.

With saturn it is still magnetic but at another level. I am a pretty young woman, yes, but physical beauty is nothing on its own. It's almost entirely how one carries themself. Over the past few years, several different men have told me I am very intimidating or a similar word. The most recent I was working at a club til last months and one of the bouncers told me I was very unapproachable. I ask what he means and he says "you're intimidating, I like that."

I think it's a weird place for saturn tbh. People usually hit the road as soon as saturn shows up. No one wants to deal with him. What I've always found funny is that saturn is karma..good and bad. It's a little troubling to know that most of us just automatically think of bad when we think of karma. It's like well yeah if your an ******* to people, saturn is gonna give you a well deserved ass kicking. If you are a decent human being who respects both themselves and others and act like it, then you'll get some good **** that you wanted. Whenever the heck saturn gets around to it is another story.

Not so much on a conscious level, but we want to attract our karma, good and bad, so we can evolve. probably more than anything else. I own my space and give off the impression that I know **** even if I don't. I think it is that strong saturian energy in a body that looks anything but. I also think the fact that I have no interest in any of them makes some of them even more interested. It's human nature to want what we can't have. It's the 1st story in the Bible. People want to know the unknown. Not surprisingly I tend to repel the psychopaths thankfully. They want people that they can easily control and manipulate.

Ever since my Saturn return in 2016, saturn has been my favorite. I have the utmost respect for his role. So when I found him on the GA it made me happy. It also gave me a physical link to why I am the way I am. My dad always called me a smart ass cause quite frankly I was. My father was very saturian himself. That was his favorite planet as well. He ended up passing during my return.

I have always had a strong sense of right and wrong. I found something a few years ago that I had made in kindergarten. The assignment was a question asking us 5 & 6 year old kids what we wanted more than anything. Both in words and by drawing a picture. I wrote I wanted peace on earth and no more fighting and hurting. I drew a rainbow with 6 colors, probably a sun, then a chain of people holding hands and smiling. Each person was a different color...blue, purple, yellow..whatever crayon I had handy at the time. I was very proud of my 5yo self for not writing something dumb like a bike. It's good to see I still am that person. More cynical..but good nonetheless. I believe that we are most intune with our true selves when we are very young. That is the window where we are an unfiltered expression of our soul in its most honest form. A child doing something unsettling early on would terrify me greatly. Because even intervening very early can't change the entire soul. The disturbing part will stay repressed until its triggered later in life.

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posted August 29, 2021 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My heliocentric Earth is there. Heliocentric represents the higher self or Christ consciousness what could this mean?

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posted August 29, 2021 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
My heliocentric Earth is there. Heliocentric represents the higher self or Christ consciousness what could this mean?


That's very interesting, athenegoddess. Nadja has her helio earth on the GA too. I really know nothing about heliocentric astrology though. I did a quick web search before typing this but I'm definitely going to need to dedicate some time to it. Perhaps it is indicating CC guides who are watching over you in this incarnations. Maybe it is showing that your soul is currently on the path to achieving CC yourself? Whether it's during this life or the next. I guess you wouldn't be on your CC path without your CC guides leading you. & a CC soul is dedicated to leading all souls to find their way back to this part of themselves. So if it is one I guess it would have to be the other.

Whatever it is, it triggered an interest in checking out my helio chart. 😇

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posted August 29, 2021 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Veronica

My Saturn is also conjunct the GA. With Uranus widely conjuct as well. I'd never heard of this until today! Thank you for showing me something new.

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posted August 30, 2021 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Veronica and LovelyAries..

Saturn is a 'teacher'.
Uranus awakens new understandings.


Bumped an old thread that is full of rich resource links to explore.
Left a note to VeronicaNicole in the August 29, 2021 post.

# Asteroid Astrology forum
Super Galactic Center
OP by Aeline, on December 29, 2012
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001608.html


There have been multiple threads that have discussed these 'points'. Really fascinating.

Astrologer Philip Sedwick was/is a pioneer who had researched the astrological meanings behind
Great Attractor (GA loosely @12 Sag),
Galactic Center (GC loosely @27 Sag),
and the effects of personal placements and planet transits near the
Super Galactic Cluster (SGC @ -~2 Libra).

Those are the tropical (western) 'zodiac' degrees, and not the sidereal {which includes the space, beyond the reaches of Earth's atmosphere, and navigated using the Fixed Stars found in the broader Constellations}.

Philip Sedgwick - index
- http://philipsedgwick.com/

on the sidebar,
look for the heading called
"Galactic Anomalies"

under Galactic Anomalies he lists pages to his work --

* The Galactic Center

* The Super-Galactic Center Supermassive Black Hole

* The Great Attractor

He prefers that people don't whole quote and export pages from his work. If you look at the URL, it takes you back to his home page. He continues to ADD more info. He provides link to purchase his product and he sends UPDATES for the Galactic Anomalies.

He also provides GREAT INFO on other planet bodies (under the very generic label of asteroids). There have been discoveries of dwarf planets, planetoids. I guess for simplicity and the way to 'organize' these newer finds, we 'generically' still call them 'asteroids' for the matter of ease.

(I'll be back to this discussion later.)

Enjoy!

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posted August 30, 2021 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Mirage

You're like the world's best Astrologic Encyclopedia! You're awesome.

BTW - how wide of an orb can you count as a conjunction to the Great Attractor?

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posted August 31, 2021 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting! I have my Neptune at 13Sagittarius16 and my draco Mars at 13Sagittarius09. My Neptune is also at the apex of a triangle aspect pattern known as Thor’s Hammer. I wasn’t aware that the great attractor was also part of this configuration. I have to try to figure out what this might mean in my chart.

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posted September 15, 2021 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The great attractor conjuncts my DC in the 7th house

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posted December 16, 2021 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it conjuncts my husbands IC

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